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[Player Guide] The Value of Alts in Server Activity
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An honour code like that would be great indeed, but I am more of a realist so I doubt that would ever happen. I'm more of the view that people using alts is almost inevitable in a game like this, and would be too widespread/tedious for Oasis to properly regulate (a lot of problems on proving its a alt vs a real player living in the same area, etc). In such a case, my goal is to highlight the ways that alts can be used to the benefit of the server as a whole. Sure, some ppl will abuse it, that's gonna happen regardless. But hopefully what I'm saying can produce beneficial results (namely player goodwill and activity)... after all, I can't think of a case where ppl would start quitting b/c they are pissed that the top powers are using plunder alts instead of plundering players haha
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Ray24
2020-09-04 20:30:15

[Player Guide] The Value of Alts in Server Activity
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Haha yes that is exactly my point. Plundering alts instead of actual players doesn't give the top guys any real 'benefit' other than improved goodwill from other players in the server, so I don't believe its really 'cheating'; after all, top powers can just plunder players every day without difficulty if they wanted to. But the goodwill that comes from not being plundered every day helps prevent a lot of mid-levels from quitting and can prevent consolidation of players into one group to avoid plunderers. Hopefully the moderators for this forum recognize this point and allow this thread to stay up so other ppl can learn this. (sidenote; I am NOT advocating for use of plunder alts for everyone; I'm advocating for their use among the top power players, so they will spare the lower powers from being plundered)
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Ray24
2020-09-04 20:30:15

[Player Guide] The Value of Alts in Server Activity
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I think you are focusing on the wrong part of my argument. Plundering alts will 'boost yourself' sure... but this is true for f2p's and low-mid power players, NOT the top powers (as somebody mentioned in another post). The top powers can and do plunder easily; whether they use alts or not to plunder, they can get plunders every day. So by using alts they are NOT boosting themselves, they are instead refraining from hurting low-mid power players. In fact, viewed this way, you can argue plunder alts in this case is a SACRIFICE of time for the top powers in order to improve server activity and player relations. I personally would appreciate it if i knew the top guys in a server i was a mid-level in, were all spending hours to maintain alts so they don't steal convoys from other ppl. Note that I am NOT necessarily advocating for use of plunder alts by the low-mid power players; that is actually in the realm of 'cheating' to boost yourself, so that would get a definite 'no' from Oasis lol. Top power players who make plunder alts to spare lower powers though? Pretty sure most ppl will overlook it.
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Ray24
2020-09-04 20:30:15

[Player Guide] The Value of Alts in Server Activity
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haha indeed, I agree with your points. And yeah, probably will be deleted. Still, ppl have seen it so i hope it helps some ppl at least. Improving server activity is always worth it.
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Ray24
2020-09-04 20:30:15

[Player Guide] The Value of Alts in Server Activity
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Its not just about 'not harming other players'; I'm proposing it b/c convoys and plunders happen to be one of the main sources of coupons, and consequently a big source of antagonism as well as power-suppression from the existing top powers. What you say is true about sage and matsuri, but first off... good luck using alts to feed yourself in sage, there are just too many players there for that. And if it actually works, then that's probably a non-cross server sage with super low activity, in which case you kinda need alts to even have a sage. Matsuri is nearly impossible to farm using alts, b/c the way its set up is you keep facing stronger players the more wins you get. The only way I see you feeding with *t is if there's nobody playing matsuri within your cross-server range, in which case... I'd say *t is rather justified. If there's no players for you to play against, then you might as well get the rewards. And 'just admit that you're too weak to plunder and go back to convoys'? You're totally missing the point. My post was aimed at those players who are plenty strong enough to plunder; i'm just telling them to avoid plundering players if they can.
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Ray24
2020-09-04 20:30:15

[Player Guide] The Value of Alts in Server Activity
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in that case, what if you plunder somebody else's alt? and that person then plunders your alt? In that case you can't really prove you are feeding your own account with alts, you're plundering another 'person'. If you do it this way you should be fine.
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Ray24
2020-09-04 20:30:15

[Player Guide] The Value of Alts in Server Activity
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I agree, that kind of use of alts is the thing i'm acknowledge at the beginning is illegal/frowned upon. And that group leader is frankly a moron for giving packs to his alts instead of active players. And well, using alts in the same server is 'illegal', as is selling/buying (especially this). However, Oasis doesn't really enforce the ban on alts; most high level players have access to at least one alt/account. Also being given an account by somebody else who leaves is a grey area i believe; Oasis won't help u if you lose an account b/c u gave the password out, but they don't really ban you either as far as i know. Unless you literally go to them and tell them 'I have *t, my account name is *x. Are you gonna ban me?'... :)
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Ray24
2020-09-04 20:30:15

[Player Guide] The Value of Alts in Server Activity
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I'm not saying being plundered is the only reason, ofc its not. But it certainly doesn't help. And how is plundering your own alt pathetic? I'd much prefer a server where all the top guys are plundering their alts instead of picking on people lower power than them. And sure, non-spenders are getting slaughtered. But it is still possible for a f2p to win, especially if they level freeze. To do so, f2p's need all the cpns they can get, and in that situation the 900 cpns actually start mattering; its over 10k cpns in a year after all, that's the difference b/w having a meta ninja and not having one. Your approach is just to give up on the game entirely, my approach is making it somewhat better for the f2p's to play.
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Ray24
2020-09-04 20:30:15