I don't see plundering alt as a big issue. The biggest benefit for that is the mid and lower bp players not the top ones.

Since the top players will get their plunder through anyways. The mid and low bp are the ones who need their alts.

If oasis ban plundering alts, the ones to suffer most would be f2p and lower bp ones.

Plus, it's only 1 plunder a day. It's not much. If its like 3 plunders a day, and the reward are higher.. maybe it's an issue.

As for swb, no idea how alts works in that situation. but you can only fight 1 at a time.

Putting more alt there will just allow more people to get easy wins, not necessary benefiting the owner's main.

Again, i don't think its a big issue because the top players will still come out winning most likely.

If oasis really want to improve the atmosphere, then make it such that plunders don't diminish rewards.

A lot of people will be happy. Except the niche of top competitors who specifically like to bully lower bp players.

I just would like to point out and get the opinion of Mods, and the rest of the community, especially those who are unaware about players using ALTS, like 20-30 ALTS) in abusing Konoha Outlet event to get Cards and pour them all to the Main account to get many Free Charms. Are the Devs and Mods aware of this? Isn't this illegal? Using too many alts to boost oneself?

Thoughts please...

Huh, I never thought about that- from this whole thread that's probably the one thing with alts that'd I'd actively agree with as being broken.

Someone before mentioned that higher powers don't benefit from plundering alts- but they do, a lot of people hate being plundered, people have told me that it's infuriating losing coupons- it's actively a very negative thing to lose something that means so much. I'd prefer it to be that you lost the "Coin" side of it, the plunderer still gets his coupons & the plundered still gained his coupons, but coupons weren't deducted for losing.
Some high Battle powers on my server make a choice NOT to actually plunder people, while others plunder alts- I actually don't see a problem with it from this view point as it avoids actively annoying the player base.

I've even known & seen people actively change guild to a guild that has stronger members purely based on them not wanting to get plundered- it's a very strange mechanic to have in a game.

My 2 cents would be to limit the way to gifting cards, like maybe you can only gift 1 card the entire week.

Or better yet. Not gifting but trading cards.

Everyone starts with 1 point of gifting for the entire week. Once gifted card to someone, they -1 points from total.

If their points is 0 or 1 they can receive cards, they get +1 on receive.

They are allow to gift as long as their points is positive (1 or 2), and the person they gift to is able to receive (0 or 1) points.

Simple coding really, should do the trick.

Otherwise they can take out the option of gifting cards entirely. *shrugs*

haha so the plus side for top players is not getting hated right. kk i agree with you here.

and a lot of top players can't help it because that's how the system is.

sure many top players on their server don't want to spread toxicity in the game, me inclusive..

my server is not that old and even i can see how player base diminish

alt is the best win win option for them really. ban that, and they have to make the decision if they would plunder others or not.

and the ans for me would be, since i can't plunder alts, the hate is not on me when i do plunder lower bp players.

that's on the system. so the way i look at it, nope, top players are not losing anything except killing the player base of their server.

if you consider that to be an initiative that top players should automatic take to not plunder others. hmm well.... stay hopeful. XD

hmmmm ,, i know this group that the leader have almost 10 clone to level up his group , does this illegal?

ok so i was targeted by a complete A-hole who wasn't going to leave me alone (around may 2017 - may - 2018) i played everyday and he always plundered me, now I know this is part of the game, but he was relentless, and when I started to plunder his group members out of pure hatred for the person, he threatened me saying I shouldn't plunder other people's alt, in my defense I said "why don't you stop plundering me than?" we both agreed on that and he left me alone, (this was back when I had between 20-30k bp while he had around 70k - 75k). the point of this comment is to show how people can AND will abuse this function, the guy knew he was being a D1ck about it but didn't stop himself until i started to do it to his group members.

So true and I totally agree. This will also lessen the possibility of a server being dead in the future.

I think you are focusing on the wrong part of my argument.

Plundering alts will 'boost yourself' sure... but this is true for f2p's and low-mid power players, NOT the top powers (as somebody mentioned in another post).

The top powers can and do plunder easily; whether they use alts or not to plunder, they can get plunders every day. So by using alts they are NOT boosting themselves, they are instead refraining from hurting low-mid power players. In fact, viewed this way, you can argue plunder alts in this case is a SACRIFICE of time for the top powers in order to improve server activity and player relations. I personally would appreciate it if i knew the top guys in a server i was a mid-level in, were all spending hours to maintain alts so they don't steal convoys from other ppl.

Note that I am NOT necessarily advocating for use of plunder alts by the low-mid power players; that is actually in the realm of 'cheating' to boost yourself, so that would get a definite 'no' from Oasis lol. Top power players who make plunder alts to spare lower powers though? Pretty sure most ppl will overlook it.

Haha yes that is exactly my point.

Plundering alts instead of actual players doesn't give the top guys any real 'benefit' other than improved goodwill from other players in the server, so I don't believe its really 'cheating'; after all, top powers can just plunder players every day without difficulty if they wanted to.

But the goodwill that comes from not being plundered every day helps prevent a lot of mid-levels from quitting and can prevent consolidation of players into one group to avoid plunderers.

Hopefully the moderators for this forum recognize this point and allow this thread to stay up so other ppl can learn this.

(sidenote; I am NOT advocating for use of plunder alts for everyone; I'm advocating for their use among the top power players, so they will spare the lower powers from being plundered)

What you are suggesting is an honour code on using alts based on what you are saying correct? Such code requires a full cooperation between all players in a server and all it takes for one person to abuse/disagree the code for numerous reasons. Personally, I think Oasis is not going to change their view on using alts. based on the past discussions, such codes do work in some servers while some don't. All it takes is for someone to report it. This is why I believe it might be their one of reasons why they won't change their viewpoint.

An honour code like that would be great indeed, but I am more of a realist so I doubt that would ever happen.

I'm more of the view that people using alts is almost inevitable in a game like this, and would be too widespread/tedious for Oasis to properly regulate (a lot of problems on proving its a alt vs a real player living in the same area, etc). In such a case, my goal is to highlight the ways that alts can be used to the benefit of the server as a whole.

Sure, some ppl will abuse it, that's gonna happen regardless.

But hopefully what I'm saying can produce beneficial results (namely player goodwill and activity)... after all, I can't think of a case where ppl would start quitting b/c they are pissed that the top powers are using plunder alts instead of plundering players haha

picking and choosing what is legal and what is illegal in the use of alternate accounts seems like a headache. it would have been better for Oasis to either denounce alternate account use across the board or let people do whatever they want with them.

Nice

I am using ALT for Team Instance, Strong Approaching, Decisive Bond... I am lazy calling anyone for help since each one of us have their own activity. I use my 3 Account simultaneously to save time and effort on making things in the Server. Well if your F2P player, you know the consequence of getting beat by the P2P players, of course they have their edge of having so much power coz they make the server alive. So if your F2P dont complain...coz I am F2P and endure every frustrations when you are being beaten at Sage, Plunder, Decisive and Matsuri... I am used to it.

Tedi

~ gna just keep it more lowkey

-i think *t speeds up the process of waiting for missions/ asking others to help you out

-it helps dying servers with f2p to continue progressing via arena and nirmal battles

-acts as a dummy in testing battles in arena/pvp

-gives you more versatility in aiding ti's and battling wanted ninjas

ALTS*

edit: i just realised how salty i sound meant no disrespect to anyone love yall

Ok ok listen, for anyone wondering weather or not you should plunder your alt, go for it.Because if you are constantly getting plundered by p2w guys, making it on the game will be hard, and its like they said oasis wont ban you or your alt (i think xd) im speaking as a f2p and my server just got merged and its like you gotta strategize when to do convoys and even then, you might still get plundered. and honestly is it really THAT unfair that you get an extra 50 coupons when most of the players are really spending thousands and still plunder lower bp players? maybe, but the point is that its really not that big of a deal, and players will always use alts for stuff like this even if this post thread gets deleted but hey, if you wanna miss out just to be safe then go right ahead. this is just an option.I really dislike how the game has this kind of stuff in the first place, where you could attack specific players through a wanted status or plunders just to f--- with them. i really think its nice of the author of the thread to bring this idea up in the first place knowing it isnt legal, i wish id found out about this when i first started out