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1＃ Go ToSo I have of late been looking for information for battle armour leveling and thread's required aswell as costs and have found this information to be rather elusive. I have however found 1 thread on thread required for levels however it didn't have costs and possible discounts attained from panic buy so I am gunna give a shot to completing it thanks go to Sourav who was the original creator of the material requirements thread.
If there is however incorrect amounts it would be appreciated if you could let me know so as I can make the adjustments.
All values will be worst case scenario costs. Values also do not include the thread from rebate.
As Has been pointed out the growth values are off by 1 as full wish isn't a level it is full wish +1.
Thread costs full price.
Medium thread = 38
Advanced thread = 63
Thread costs during panic buy.
Medium thread = 27
Advanced thread = 38
Upgrade from Rank 3 to 4:
Growth value required = 50 +1
1 Growth Value = 5 Medium thread
Total thread required = 250
Cost full = 9690 Panic = 6885
Rebate = 36 medium thread Value full = 1368 Panic = 972
Upgrade from Rank 4 to 5:
Growth Value required = 100 +1
1 growth value = 5 medium thread
Total thread required = 500
Cost full = 19190 Panic = 13635
Rebate = 90 medium thread Value full = 3420 Panic = 2430
Upgrade from Rank 5 to 6:
Growth value required = 200 +1
1 growth value = 5 medium thread
Total thread required = 1000
Cost full = 38190 Panic = 27135
Rebate= 135 advanced thread Value full = 8505 Panic = 5130
Upgrade from Rank 6 to 7:
Growth value required = 100 +1
1 growth value = 8 advanced thread
Total thread required = 800
Cost full = 50904 Panic = 30804
Rebate = 250 advanced thread Value full = 15750 Panic = 9500
Upgrade from rank 7 to 8:
Growth value required = 200 +1
1 growth value = 8 advanced
Total thread required = 1600
Cost full = 101304 Panic = 61104
Rebate = 600 advanced thread Value full = 37800 Panic = 22800
Upgrade from rank 8 to 9:
Growth value required = 300 +1 (need more confirmation)
1 growth value = 8 advanced thread
Total thread required = 2400
Cost full = 151704 Panic = 91504
Rebate = Tobirama senju Value (as of this post) approx 30000
Total costs Full = 370982 Panic = 231067
Rebate value Full = 66843 Panic = 40832 Neither of those has Tobirama value included.
I apologize if have screwed up math anywhere will fix it asap if any is found. I hope this helps people out I felt something like this was needed as battle armour costs seem to be overlooked. Thanks for any input or feedback.
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so 1750 medium thread total.
As a free to play, you can get 3-4 thread a day( if you invest all monthly event points and time space points)
so pretty much about a year and half to get to rank 6.you can get one advance thread every 2days if you're ranked 150 and up in time space and about 10 a month.so rank 6 to 7 about 6 and half years,
rank 7to 8 thirteen years, rank 8 to 9 about 26 years, for the total of 47 years.
well i guess,you can give your account to your grandchildren to get rank 9 battle armor for you ,and them to their kids if you wanna get rank 10.
so no worries, it is doable as a free to play.
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- Fher On 2017-05-30 15:30:35
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so 1750 medium thread total.
As a free to play, you can get 3-4 thread a day( if you invest all monthly event points and time space points)
so pretty much about a year and half to get to rank 6.you can get one advance thread every 2days if you're ranked 150 and up in time space and about 10 a month.so rank 6 to 7 about 6 and half years,
rank 7to 8 thirteen years, rank 8 to 9 about 26 years, for the total of 47 years.
well i guess,you can give your account to your grandchildren to get rank 9 battle armor for you ,and them to their kids if you wanna get rank 10.
so no worries, it is doable as a free to play.
This post was last edited by 243***@uf16 at 2017-5-30 15:45
Nope, i'm mostly free to play, i play since 5 months and im at 52/200 for rank 5 to 6. About battle armor you can consider me full f2p since i never used coupons or ingots there. Just hoarded free ones. Edit: 3.0 SA hard mode drops advanced threads.
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- Zelgadis~ On 2017-05-30 16:35:08
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Nope, i'm mostly free to play, i play since 5 months and im at 52/200 for rank 5 to 6. About battle armor you can consider me full f2p since i never used coupons or ingots there. Just hoarded free ones. Edit: 3.0 SA hard mode drops advanced threads.
This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-5-30 16:36
oh yah, forgot to count the SA drops.
good news everyone! you can get it in 24 years instead of 47 years.
oh btw my server is 4months+ old and all our p2w players except one are still rank 4 battle armor,so you're either lying or you've been playing way more than 5 months.and there is no mostly f2p. Either you're a free to play or not.doesn't matter if spend a dollar or 20k$ once you recharge you're a p2w.
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I would like to point out that lucky board have a better cost than panic buy on average--it cost 20 coupon to get 1 dice which at minimal give 5 pts, it takes 7 to get a med thread, ergo it is a max of 28 coupon. However, with the chance of getting 10 pts, it's actually lower than 28, more like 25 that way. That's not to mention the free roll you could get(from free roll spot, not free dice) and the fact that the board gives stuff too, including med thread even if you consider everything else to be useless(there is completion pack too blah blah blah)
In any case, depend on how much you value the "other stuff" you get in luckyboard, I'd rate the cost of a med thread there between 10 to 24 coupon--10 if you value other stuff highly and 24 if you don't value them at all.
Second, I would like to point out that full growth value does not equal auto upgrade, what it guarantees is that the NEXT roll is going to be an upgrade. So with a growth bar of X, you might require X+1 roll to get the upgrade at maximal. So your number is low on that front by 1.
Of course, usually you end up needing less, but I guess you are not going for what is expected (and I have no idea how that can even be found out w/o knowing the code. You'd have to collect shist ton of data)
Add that to SA farming... well, I'd say ftp realistically is going to look at a tab of around 180k to get the armor maxed maybe. It's this high because panic buy is actually more or less the only way for you to get adv thread. Maybe you can get it cheaper if you save a ton of coupon and get it all at once at some 40% discount event or something... -
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- Fher On 2017-05-30 18:00:03
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oh yah, forgot to count the SA drops.
good news everyone! you can get it in 24 years instead of 47 years.
oh btw my server is 4months+ old and all our p2w players except one are still rank 4 battle armor,so you're either lying or you've been playing way more than 5 months.and there is no mostly f2p. Either you're a free to play or not.doesn't matter if spend a dollar or 20k$ once you recharge you're a p2w.
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Someone is salty it seems.
You need to realize the difference between p2w and p2p players, I am f2p and my server is like 6 months old and i have rank 5 armor so net time when you accuse someone of being p2w atleast check all the facts. -
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- Blackami974 On 2017-05-30 18:21:14
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Someone is salty it seems.
You need to realize the difference between p2w and p2p players, I am f2p and my server is like 6 months old and i have rank 5 armor so net time when you accuse someone of being p2w atleast check all the facts.
not salty at all.it's your money do whatever you want with it. but free to play means 0 dollars spent.
people who get medals or do a recharge once in a while and call themselves f2p, now that's bull*.
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- Fher On 2017-05-30 18:28:00
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not salty at all.it's your money do whatever you want with it. but free to play means 0 dollars spent.
people who get medals or do a recharge once in a while and call themselves f2p, now that's bull*.
once you recharge you're not a free to play.
I'm full ftp and I got rank 6 armor--because for 4 month or so I ONLY spent coupon on lucky board and went full med thread on that.
i get over 100 every month from lucky board alone, add ~dozen per week from SA and 112 a month from monthly, that's about 300 a month
Total required is only max 1400, minus rebate of 126 (You forgot the 2 to 3 rebate, thou I didn't get that personally cause mine was R3 before the first rebate event), that's only 1274(likely closer to 1k). So, perfectly possible in just 4 month. -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-05-30 18:41:59
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I'm full ftp and I got rank 6 armor--because for 4 month or so I ONLY spent coupon on lucky board and went full med thread on that.
i get over 100 every month from lucky board alone, add ~dozen per week from SA and 112 a month from monthly, that's about 300 a month
Total required is only max 1400, minus rebate of 126 (You forgot the 2 to 3 rebate, thou I didn't get that personally cause mine was R3 before the first rebate event), that's only 1274(likely closer to 1k). So, perfectly possible in just 4 month.
I believe they had charms instead of medium threads last month.
But,yes it is possible to do it if you just save all your coupons for lucky boards and go medium threads instead of medium refines.
but most people rather max their refines first because they get better boosts with refine+purify than the medium threads.
But as i mentioned in my first post the medium threads weren't the problem.It is the advance thread that needs 40 years of grinding at the current state. -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-05-30 18:19:25
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I would like to point out that lucky board have a better cost than panic buy on average--it cost 20 coupon to get 1 dice which at minimal give 5 pts, it takes 7 to get a med thread, ergo it is a max of 28 coupon. However, with the chance of getting 10 pts, it's actually lower than 28, more like 25 that way. That's not to mention the free roll you could get(from free roll spot, not free dice) and the fact that the board gives stuff too, including med thread even if you consider everything else to be useless(there is completion pack too blah blah blah)
In any case, depend on how much you value the "other stuff" you get in luckyboard, I'd rate the cost of a med thread there between 10 to 24 coupon--10 if you value other stuff highly and 24 if you don't value them at all.
Second, I would like to point out that full growth value does not equal auto upgrade, what it guarantees is that the NEXT roll is going to be an upgrade. So with a growth bar of X, you might require X+1 roll to get the upgrade at maximal. So your number is low on that front by 1.
Of course, usually you end up needing less, but I guess you are not going for what is expected (and I have no idea how that can even be found out w/o knowing the code. You'd have to collect shist ton of data)
Add that to SA farming... well, I'd say ftp realistically is going to look at a tab of around 180k to get the armor maxed maybe. It's this high because panic buy is actually more or less the only way for you to get adv thread. Maybe you can get it cheaper if you save a ton of coupon and get it all at once at some 40% discount event or something...
The math is simply done for buying the thread straight up not from events that have either limited resources or rely on RNG for drops. Also all calculations were done for worst possible case so you know at very worst how much it will be, 1-3 was not added as that can be done within a month for very limited cost. However if people wish for 1 - 3 to be added I need the growth value required to add them. Thanks. -
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- Fher On 2017-05-30 18:51:57
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I believe they had charms instead of medium threads last month.
But,yes it is possible to do it if you just save all your coupons for lucky boards and go medium threads instead of medium refines.
but most people rather max their refines first because they get better boosts with refine+purify than the medium threads.
But as i mentioned in my first post the medium threads weren't the problem.It is the advance thread that needs 40 years of grinding at the current state.
They had med thread every month, at least in the exchange. I pay little attention to what is on the board since the exchange is a good deal in and of itself.
Thing is, my move 1 is fully medium refined, which means medium refine have serious diminishing returns. Also, med refine is cheaper, in some events you can get it for less than 20 so... -
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- WhoWhat On 2017-05-30 19:00:42
- The math is simply done for buying the thread straight up not from events that have either limited resources or rely on RNG for drops. Also all calculations were done for worst possible case so you know at very worst how much it will be, 1-3 was not added as that can be done within a month for very limited cost. However if people wish for 1 - 3 to be added I need the growth value required to add them. Thanks.
1&2 is not very interesting, but 2 to 3 does give rebates of med thread, that could be a thing(newbie might end up wasting this as 3 is soooo ez to reach, I know I did before the first rebate ever came out)
still, if you are going for worst case, you need to +1 to each, cause 50 blessing, for example, requires 51 to guarantee an upgrade. -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-05-30 19:12:35
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1&2 is not very interesting, but 2 to 3 does give rebates of med thread, that could be a thing(newbie might end up wasting this as 3 is soooo ez to reach, I know I did before the first rebate ever came out)
still, if you are going for worst case, you need to +1 to each, cause 50 blessing, for example, requires 51 to guarantee an upgrade.
You sure they go +1? I would like confirmation before I make a change like that which effects the entire sheet.
If you or anyone has the growth rate from 2 - 3 I can add that in. -
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- WhoWhat On 2017-05-30 19:29:47
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You sure they go +1? I would like confirmation before I make a change like that which effects the entire sheet.
If you or anyone has the growth rate from 2 - 3 I can add that in.
can't find you a BA one on demand, but here is a refine one:
http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com ... 9581&extra=page%3D6
Full wish does not grant auto upgrade
Also, it doesn't matter how much it cost to go from 2 to 3, what matters is the amount of rebate given for 2 to 3, which would be on the event page or something. -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-05-30 19:33:56
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can't find you a BA one on demand, but here is a refine one:
http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com ... 9581&extra=page%3D6
Full wish does not grant auto upgrade
Also, it doesn't matter how much it cost to go from 2 to 3, what matters is the amount of rebate given for 2 to 3, which would be on the event page or something.
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-05-30 19:07:00
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They had med thread every month, at least in the exchange. I pay little attention to what is on the board since the exchange is a good deal in and of itself.
Thing is, my move 1 is fully medium refined, which means medium refine have serious diminishing returns. Also, med refine is cheaper, in some events you can get it for less than 20 so...
I didnt see medium threads last month in lucky board ,but i could be wrong.
also is you mentioned,it's a better deal to go for medium threads both in lucky board and monthly event since medium refine costs 25 coupons while medium thread costs 38 since the points needed to get them are the same. -
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