Definition of False Advertising.
an ad is deceptive if it contains a statement - or omits information - that: Is likely to mislead consumers acting reasonably under the cir*stances; and. Is "material" - that is, important to a consumer's decision to buy or use the product.
FTC.

Now, I did the math as even the 3rd Hokage was able to be won and he isn't even a seal ninja. Sage Jiraya was able to be won in the dice event. So far in all events one has said You can win ninjas and be actually truthful.

You can not win "ninjas" case here is plural. You can only win Orochimaru. The rolls have about a three percent chance as my 6 in 202 rolls have determined so far. That means to win Sasori in this event it is .03 to the 80th /400 So we have this number

1 Noventrigintillionth of a percent. OR... 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 percent chance. Or 1.0 x 10-120.

So if we had one billion computers and they all had one billion accounts and they all played max times, they still would not be able to win Sasori 100 puppets.

The adds shows that he is able to be won, they say ninjas can be won but only 2 ninjas are on the board and only one can actually be won.

So winning Sasori was important to my decision to recharge for this event and all the other events so far have shown that one can actually win the showcase ninjas. This is blatant false advertising.

The exact wording is "you can obtain strong ninjas". This does not mean that you are guaranteed the strong ninjas if you spend enough ingots. It is highly unlikely, yes, but that does not completely erase the probability.

Sorry, but where was it mentioned about a recharge rebate event?

Please do point me out in that thread/news.

So far, if any event there were to be a recharge rebate event, it was mentioned in the event details clearly in new section. Why wasn't it so this time?

Again, please do point out about where this information was provided. I checked the first page and there isn't anything mentioned about this rebate event.

You can't obtain them though. You can obtain ONE. Highly unlikely is like a one percent chance. The universe won't even acknowledge that low of a percent. Obtaining a ninja means you won the ninja.

Won/Obtain are able to be used interchangeably. If you obtained a ninja you won the ninja. if you are able to obtain Sasori 100 puppets then you should be able to by playing this event to its fullest. You are not able to. Math doesn't lie here.

Hello,

it's a one-time special event due to unexpected situation. Next time we will add it to the patch notes.

Or let's put it this way as another way of conveying dialogue.
If you told everyone in the event that they had only 1x10-120 %chance of winning Sasori would people who really wanted him play the event or just go for the 400 seal scrolls and take a 25% chance.

8000 ingots for a 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 chance

or 400 seals that is 125 per 50,000 ingots for a 25% chance.

Because as of right now you CAN'T obtain Sasori through this event. Even though the event says you can obtain him. That level of percent chance is less than a billion billion.
One actually has a chance of success.

It was pretty clear that it would be extremely hard to obtain even one fragment of Sasori. It was your decision to spend the maximum amount of ingots. Nowhere did we say that you could definitely obtain Sasori.

Can you show me where in the event it was stated it was clear?
Perhaps this would be best to be continued in private messages? This post was last edited by Einherjar at 2016-11-15 18:10

And can you show me where did we mention if you invest in this event you will receive Sasori for sure ?

Moderators should just take those comments as constructive feedback instead of being defensive. The rates are already horrible as it is and no one would pay so much for an incomplete ninja so yea. it is feedback in a sense and gladly take it instead. Try working out a good formula for people willing to pay for such things and bring it to the publishers. Being greedy as a company does not work out well. I'm pretty sure the spend rate in this event is low and those who did spend were not really too happy with the outcome. There has to be a middle ground drawn between profit mongering and customer satisfaction so the way your replies come in do not help the situation.:)

There is a fine line between constructive criticism and destructive criticism, while you could argue that your first post was trying to be constructive, the following were just repeating the content and throwing blame around. We will of course take this criticism regardless, but don't expect us to respond kindly to abusive comments.

Why yes I can.

7. "Wheel of Fortune" event added! Player can obtain strong ninjas, scrolls and magatamas by spinning it every day, 100% wins!


Here is the statement in question. Strong ninjas plural. You can not obtain strong ninjas plural. You can obtain ONE ninja but you can not obtain both. No matter how hard one tries not even a billion computers with a billion accounts would be able to obtain the ninja. You can not obtain Sasori 100 puppets from this event.

So that is pretty clear that there are ONLY 2 ninjas on the wheel and it said you CAN obtain strong ninjas. This is being deceitful in my opinion.
0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 % chance of obtaining Sasori 100 puppets is not obtainable. And yes I did the math. 6/202 roughly 3% chance over 80 times is .03 to the eighty power multiplied (Sorry said divided) by 400 for the chances and that is your rough percentage. Is that ninja obtainable within this event? No. But the event clearly states you can obtain strong ninjas. This post was last edited by Einherjar at 2016-11-15 19:13

Almost two days ago I wrote this.


Can we talk about how the event doesn't really give what it promised then?

"Player can obtain strong ninjas, scrolls and magatamas by spinning it every day, 100% wins!"

At best if you spun max each day--- one could get Orochimaru. But one is unable to get Sasori 100 puppets.
You can't obtain strong ninjas (Plural) you can obtain a single strong ninja. But being unable to get Sasori is being deceitful. I've decided that I'll still spin max in hopes of some miracle of getting 77/300 spins being Sasori. Just that if you are going to state ninjas can be won at least be honest about it. With the current odds it looks like Sasori 100 puppets can't be won no matter what.


Not a single response back about it. Nothing to say Hey, I understand--- or no you are wrong. I feel a bit swindled and not a response. So how do I know if my message was heard or ignored?

I am not a mod, but since you want someone telling you "No, you're wrong", I might aswell take upon such a duty myself.

You can obtain Sasori from this event.
First and foremost, it is not impossible. An extremely low chance is STILL a chance. You just showed us the maths for it, so unless you are saying your maths, and thus the point upon which you're making your argument, are wrong, I don't see why you're complaining.
Second, and just as important, they never claimed you would obtain 80 fragments. You can obtain a ninja by getting the last 5 fragments you needed, for example.
You're just making it sound like you're being deceived because the truth is not as you wanted it to be.
I am surprise Daiske and Yuusuke are putting up with your attitude to be honest.

Look, I am done. I have written my criticism and voiced my displeasure. Yes, I am upset and angry and that is why I am backing away.

The maths for it show that such infinitesimal chance that if you took a billion computers with a billion accounts each they still wouldn't win Sasori 100 puppets from the event. There are not enough people on the planet for the odds to win.

whats wrong with just saying ok we will feedback? I really don't get it. anyway whatever works for you

this is not fair, you did Daily Recharge Event with no announcement at all when all people already recharge for tenten few days back? what is this theres no announcement too. its not fair!! u only want money!!!!

If you go back to the page before this (29), you can find Daiske commenting that this happened due to unexpected situation

Hello,

it's a one-time special event due to unexpected situation. Next time we will add it to the patch notes.

INstead of being super displeased and telling them its extremly difficult to get a ninjas there, u should of just proposed things to help them for the next time they do it. Persoonally i was extremely displeased with it also and realised right away that this event made no sense to spend on. First of all since its a paying event cause u can only buy the extra spins with ingots, there are way too many things u can win. The wheel has 12 possibility wich is too much, i would of gone down to 9 like other wheel's. Second i would change the prizes like remove the boxes and put other ninja frags, since its a paying event i think u should please those people more with more ninja possiblity's instead of rune box,seal's frags summoning frags. So obviously it was a bad event for alot of peoople but there is always room to improve.

And for recharge rebate it is kinda sad u guys didnt announce it and released it very late in the week, i think it came out sunday or monday and u remove it on the 17. I personally think uu guys should release it a little longer since u guys did admit that it was a blunder. Keep doing a good job mod's, people dont realise u guys can only give out so much information on the game. Also u guys arent the game content creators so they have to give u guys less flak.

I don't usually comment, but yeah I'll write in my 2 cents.

I think constructive criticism would be to give suggestions of how it can be better conveyed. I think they're still trying to manage a lot of content and it seems language isn't one of the strong points, as evidenced from the test questions and answers... (Mods have said they're working on it). Either way, no one's forcing anyone to spend on anything. I'm sure they'll take note that not many are spending on the wheel and perhaps improve it somehow.

As for the recharge rebate... Yeah, I know how it feels, I just topped up quite a bit just a few days before to upgrade to Jounin medal, but hey, I'm not going to complain. Whatever the cir*stances there might be, I'm sure there's some sort of reason behind it. At the end of the day, it's just a game... Some bits are bumpy yeah, but well, so far, I'm still enjoying the ride!