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On 2016-10-04 09:31:44Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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So recently me and a few of my friends upgreaded our armours to rank 3. We noticed that all of us upgraded at 81/100, curious about this we asked around. We found 3 more players who upgraded at 81, 5 more who upgraded in the 80's and 0 that upgraded below 70. This got us thinking that armours have a set value that will start to allow upgrading. In other words, you can't upgrade your tier 2 armour before reaching 80 / 100 threads. Remember that this is just a theory. It might not even be a 0% chance before 80, but rather a 0.01 at 1 / 100, and a 50% at 80 / 100.

This wouldn't be the first thing in the game that has a illusion of chance to it, and thats the reason why we think that this could be true. Look at the fixed pulls for Legendary Ninjas, or the rewards in trial breakthroughs. Both at first glace seem to be random chances, but both have been accepted as fixed drops.

Now I'm not saying that the amount of threads needed is bad, or that I want better chances at things. But rather that I just want clear answers. Like add a counter to pulls that you fill up as you pull and when it's full you get to do a super pull that will be one of the legendaries (like a Super Tendo Treasure), or for trial breakthrough get rid of that card "game" and just put the rewards in the chest. For threads (if it is true) just increase the number of threads it takes to do 1 try, and then have the growth rate go up or. Or just show our percent chance at things lol.
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On 2016-10-04 09:46:01Show this Author Only
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It's not that hard to upgrade Armor to rank 3. After rank 3 it becomes a real struggle.

Also, I believe I upgraded my Armor to rank 3 before 80. If I remember correctly possibly even before 70. You guys just had bad luck. Regardless, it would be nice to get some more definitive numbers instead of just guessing and hoping.
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On 2016-10-04 09:47:41Show this Author Only
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98 here... yes RNG hates me.
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On 2016-10-04 09:51:50Show this Author Only
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  • Keyser_Soze On 2016-10-04 09:46:01
  • It's not that hard to upgrade Armor to rank 3. After rank 3 it becomes a real struggle.

    Also, I believe I upgraded my Armor to rank 3 before 80. If I remember correctly possibly even before 70. You guys just had bad luck. Regardless, it would be nice to get some more definitive numbers instead of just guessing and hoping.
I didn't say it was hard, just a big coincidence that a bunch of us got it on the exact same number.
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On 2016-10-04 13:33:48Show this Author Only
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Got to rank 3 at 51 threads
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On 2016-10-04 14:17:24Show this Author Only
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I too, got it around 60-70.
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On 2016-10-04 15:11:43Show this Author Only
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My friend and I both got ours at 81 as well.
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On 2016-10-04 15:23:39Show this Author Only
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I was starting to believe that survival trial card flip its rigged until today,I finally got the best rewards from survival trial card flip,they might be rigged but I feel like not its less,but it needs to dissapear

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On 2016-10-04 21:34:45Show this Author Only
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  • Reawr On 2016-10-04 15:23:39
  • I was starting to believe that survival trial card flip its rigged until today,I finally got the best rewards from survival trial card flip,they might be rigged but I feel like not its less,but it needs to dissapear

It's not rigged, I draw same card order on everything, & it's just the normal RNG. :P
Sometimes I get good stuff (seal,summon/scroll,rare ninja frags,coupons,protagonist frags).
Other times, awakening mats,coins & some other normal frags.
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On 2016-10-04 22:17:32Show this Author Only
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  • Mystアいゼん On 2016-10-04 21:34:45
  • It's not rigged, I draw same card order on everything, & it's just the normal RNG. :P
    Sometimes I get good stuff (seal,summon/scroll,rare ninja frags,coupons,protagonist frags).
    Other times, awakening mats,coins & some other normal frags.
It is rigged in a way. 90% of the time we get the crap rewards rather than the good stuff. We have 4 card picks out of 6 cards with those odds don't you find it weird how rare the good items are?

I think your items are really based on a % chance of getting an item let's say 10% for a good item. I like the current drop rate from survival and don't want it changed but I hate the card system that survival and team instance uses when it's clearly not how it really works.
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On 2016-10-05 00:40:53Show this Author Only
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  • Ronin345 On 2016-10-04 22:17:32
  • It is rigged in a way. 90% of the time we get the crap rewards rather than the good stuff. We have 4 card picks out of 6 cards with those odds don't you find it weird how rare the good items are?

    I think your items are really based on a % chance of getting an item let's say 10% for a good item. I like the current drop rate from survival and don't want it changed but I hate the card system that survival and team instance uses when it's clearly not how it really works.
Hm... maybe before, but after last update, I noticed the Cards got much better.
the bad/good rate is now like 50/50, like every 2nd day I get something good.
Sometimes days in rows too, but ofc.. not good stuff in all cards, even with 1 card good, that's fine.
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On 2016-10-05 01:57:48Show this Author Only
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  • Mystアいゼん On 2016-10-04 21:34:45
  • It's not rigged, I draw same card order on everything, & it's just the normal RNG. :P
    Sometimes I get good stuff (seal,summon/scroll,rare ninja frags,coupons,protagonist frags).
    Other times, awakening mats,coins & some other normal frags.
Your rewards are decided for you, the card flip is just for show. It doesn't matter what cards you flip your rewards will be the same.
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