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[ Suggestions ] Nerf healer teams and all supports

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On 2018-06-05 05:15:07Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2018-06-05 04:36:53
  • And to win vs that team, I need a very specific team but then everyone else wins vs me. So I choose the team that wins vs the most in this meta still.

yea that's tough, specially in sage lol and people who use that in sage... i won't even comment. Cancer in sage shouldn't be allowed at all

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On 2018-06-05 13:17:23Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2018-06-05 04:36:53
  • And to win vs that team, I need a very specific team but then everyone else wins vs me. So I choose the team that wins vs the most in this meta still.

You got your answer. Use your specific team to beat them then. You can't expect a single team to defeat all teams. Asking a Nerf just because you can't win is beyond me.


Here sample teams that could answer your problem:

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On 2018-06-05 14:00:54Show this Author Only
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i never win against blitz teams or super rare teams, should i ask to nerf them?

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On 2018-06-05 17:06:25Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2018-06-04 22:18:43
  • Also Dance of Impetus costing 0 chakra is a counter to Kisame Samehada, I understand everyone wants their mains to have advantages over the other mains. Making all of your replies pretty biased, but think about it, water mains in my bracket always get top 3 spots in sage world and it's been like that since mei mabui 1010, everyone complained about them and even with the new ninjas they are annoying to deal with. It's time for a nerf.

As if kisame samehada was introduced before and they cut dance of impetus cost after...

That said yes wind main is squishy but i still have to see a wind main that flat out dies in round 1 at comparable powers and since this does not happen then you are compelled to nuke it in round 2 to prevent the mystery but if you do it the other 3 ninjas are full free to do whatever you want. Dance of impetus main unfairness is the fact that grants you a sureness other mains do not give: that you will be able to do what you want in round 2 regardless what happens unless you get interrupted by a mystery that do not hit bd only, like hokage minato's and given the game mechanics that's close to impossible to happen.


About what you say in swb i do not see how is possible that top3 are water mains in your bracket. If they are means they are so overpowered that if they go mb they would crush you way earlier.

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On 2018-06-05 17:07:10Show this Author Only
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  • vr00z On 2018-06-05 14:00:54
  • i never win against blitz teams or super rare teams, should i ask to nerf them?

Nah, it's the tryhards with 3 supports that delay the battle making it 7-8 rounds and winning because of poisons, healing any damage you make unless you 1 shot one of their healers that shouldn't be allowed to do that. Stuff like that isn't to be encouraged. It's boring, repetitive and annoying, and they themselves know that.

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On 2018-06-05 17:12:40Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-06-05 05:15:07
  • yea that's tough, specially in sage lol and people who use that in sage... i won't even comment. Cancer in sage shouldn't be allowed at all

Poison tai teams with kushina habanero are almost as fast as some other theoretically meta teams. Do not undervalue that 7996 damage per round. The only difference is that they are not as fast as some of them against teams 50k+ power weaker, but find me a team that vs comparable power metas wins in less than 3 rounds.

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On 2018-06-05 18:36:43Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-05 17:12:40
  • Poison tai teams with kushina habanero are almost as fast as some other theoretically meta teams. Do not undervalue that 7996 damage per round. The only difference is that they are not as fast as some of them against teams 50k+ power weaker, but find me a team that vs comparable power metas wins in less than 3 rounds.

as long as they don't waste much of my time on swb i don't care xD they c*e whatever they want, yes that team on swb can deal nice dmg and not waste time... And they can't even remove buffs so for me at least it's very easy to beat those kinds of teams... but deliberately using teams to waste ppl's time is low and shouldn't be allowed. It's almost as bad as the streak campers destroying other ppl's event. Going there just to survive for me at least makes no sense...

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On 2018-06-05 19:04:30Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-06-05 18:36:43
  • as long as they don't waste much of my time on swb i don't care xD they c*e whatever they want, yes that team on swb can deal nice dmg and not waste time... And they can't even remove buffs so for me at least it's very easy to beat those kinds of teams... but deliberately using teams to waste ppl's time is low and shouldn't be allowed. It's almost as bad as the streak campers destroying other ppl's event. Going there just to survive for me at least makes no sense...

In general you are right but, there are two very good reasons to actually do it.

The first and legal one is if you have no hopes to be top 3. In that case you do not run to get the highest number of kills possible but you play to break enemy high streaks to gather the sure minimum quantity of points to be top10. Cancer teams, unless you are the weakest guy in the field by far let you do it.

The second and quite illegal reason is if you are a top3 and you own a alt that is able to stop an eventual rival from stealing your top3 placement by letting him waste a lot of time by facing those teams. Is something illegal but i know people that do it.





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On 2018-06-05 20:41:02Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2018-06-05 17:07:10
  • Nah, it's the tryhards with 3 supports that delay the battle making it 7-8 rounds and winning because of poisons, healing any damage you make unless you 1 shot one of their healers that shouldn't be allowed to do that. Stuff like that isn't to be encouraged. It's boring, repetitive and annoying, and they themselves know that.

Welcome to Naruto online, honestly you gonna see alot of that in the next couple years(provide this game survives), i always said, if your team can survive a blitz, you win it's over, poison tai is the best talent atm to deal with high powered players(yes even if you use 3 supports).

Now you can bypass this by use a ignite team, a control team, or just pumping stuff up like best items in your strongest ninja, and pray for a crits.

I lost to cancer teams and meta teams, the flavor of the month teams as i call, such as edo deidara and jinpachi combo i usually lose, then again i dont ask for a nerf cuz it doesnt need one.

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On 2018-06-06 05:40:32Show this Author Only
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I don't get why people complain about healer teams, specially in SWB. It's an----all out war (just not battle royale). There are no rules when it comes to WAR. Anything goes. There is no legal or illegal. You need to do whatever you can in order for you to win. I just try to avoid the players with lineups who I can't beat in SWB and those that use lineups to waste your precious time. If they catch me and lose, then fine. I just go on and hunt those that I can beat. There will always be someone better than you, so either you sulk in a corner and whine all day to nerf this, nerf that or grit your teeth and move on.




This post was last edited by icebuken on 2018-06-06 05:42:05.
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On 2018-06-06 16:06:24Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2018-06-05 17:07:10
  • Nah, it's the tryhards with 3 supports that delay the battle making it 7-8 rounds and winning because of poisons, healing any damage you make unless you 1 shot one of their healers that shouldn't be allowed to do that. Stuff like that isn't to be encouraged. It's boring, repetitive and annoying, and they themselves know that.

7-8 rounds? lol

blitz team beat me in 1-2 rounds ( plz nerf this buff for blitz )

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On 2018-06-06 17:32:36Show this Author Only
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  • icebuken On 2018-06-06 05:40:32
  • I don't get why people complain about healer teams, specially in SWB. It's an----all out war (just not battle royale). There are no rules when it comes to WAR. Anything goes. There is no legal or illegal. You need to do whatever you can in order for you to win. I just try to avoid the players with lineups who I can't beat in SWB and those that use lineups to waste your precious time. If they catch me and lose, then fine. I just go on and hunt those that I can beat. There will always be someone better than you, so either you sulk in a corner and whine all day to nerf this, nerf that or grit your teeth and move on.

The rules stated blatantly you cannot use a alt to get advantages to your other accounts. If you use the alt with the only purpose of keeping your rival busy just to get a better outcome for your main account you are going against the rules and you may be banned.

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On 2018-06-06 18:41:39Show this Author Only
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Boy, for me you can't even remove Healing Tips as long as you nerf dodgers/splash Shisui dmg and add bloodlust passive for Edo Zabuza. It's just funny how it's already half way through 2018 and we're still crying over 3 healers/poison lineups, while the real cancer became most of lineups with Shisui. As many said it before, there are no rules, if u can't handle one specific type of team then welp, curse silently and move on, you won't be best all the time unless you will pump up more and more money - then for sure triple heals won't bother you.

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On 2018-06-06 18:43:25Show this Author Only
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This topic is rather sad. There are plenty of ways to counter these Heal/Tank teams. But instead of thinking of a solution, people rather complain about them.

Ever thought of waiting, until the water main has used her autoattack to then cc her (just as an example)? Cause then she is CC'd in the next round as well.

Instead of instantly using all the jutsus available, people need to start learning, when to use Jutsus and whom to focus.

Right now there are a lot of decent teams out there and there is no team that can't be countered. And those teams c*so be build with out emptying your wallet.

Be creative and experiment!

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On 2018-06-06 19:25:59Show this Author Only
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Actually, the higher your power is the better healing and shielding teams become, that's why they introduced easy igniting and shield removing ninjas.

The reason why is so? Because defense/resistance scale way higher than atk/nin and healings and shields are flat quantities in a match.

What makes me wonder is why none asks to nerf earth main. The mechanics of him are the same as azure fang just that instead of healings he shields, instead of poison he grants a 30% atk/nin boost that in most of the situations is better because cannot be removed after the effect is dealt, and he owns a mystery that is like a regenerative healing jutsu that also start a combo.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-06-06 19:31:48.
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On 2018-06-06 20:31:09Show this Author Only
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  • KayaIminha On 2018-06-06 18:43:25
  • This topic is rather sad. There are plenty of ways to counter these Heal/Tank teams. But instead of thinking of a solution, people rather complain about them.

    Ever thought of waiting, until the water main has used her autoattack to then cc her (just as an example)? Cause then she is CC'd in the next round as well.

    Instead of instantly using all the jutsus available, people need to start learning, when to use Jutsus and whom to focus.

    Right now there are a lot of decent teams out there and there is no team that can't be countered. And those teams c*so be build with out emptying your wallet.

    Be creative and experiment!

That's what happens when someone makes a extremely biased complaint. It's literally arguing with a brick wall.


They just cry and don't think of reasonable solutions.


Example being how he cries about 3 healer teams yet LM root teams are what always sit at the top of sage(sage being the example event he tries to use)

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On 2018-06-06 21:30:06Show this Author Only
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  • YaRossy On 2018-06-06 20:31:09
  • That's what happens when someone makes a extremely biased complaint. It's literally arguing with a brick wall.


    They just cry and don't think of reasonable solutions.


    Example being how he cries about 3 healer teams yet LM root teams are what always sit at the top of sage(sage being the example event he tries to use)

he just sad root is usless against that team

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