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This will get deleted very quickly but figured I'd share this anyway. Hilarious that there is no need for me or other players to voice our opinions. I see the dictators don't care about the opinions of the player and customer base. Capture6

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On 2018-05-28 06:21:37Show this Author Only
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Hello.


Do not worry, it will not get deleted. Instead of that, I will reply with the rest of our conversation because clearly you are trying to create a fight or drama for no reason.

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You are claiming we are trying to deny that there is any problem with flower event. Unfortunately, there is one. We as team can't decide if we will send compensation to players or what it should be because during weekends we are not working. Weekends are off for whole team. And since this case is a bit more complicated, only developers can decided how exactly will be this problem handled. We will have a conversation with them later today. There was no miscommunication between us and our team. This event was supposed to be cross-server from the start and it is cross-server. This information is not mentioned in event rules - we will update event rules so next time this event comes back, it will be clear to everyone. We apologize for this problem, it's on us.

EDIT: Small advice, it is not nice to share someone's if both sides do not agree.




This post was last edited by Daiske on 2018-05-28 06:25:44.
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On 2018-05-28 06:31:11Show this Author Only
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Good. Then let's finally have a conversation so the rest of the player base can understand a few things.

1 - Why did you roll out this event if there was a display bug associated to it? Was this not done as part of testing? Or any part of quality control?

2 - Why did it take 3 days for someone from your team to tell the player base that this event was not functioning as per the rules in the game itself?

3 - Going forward, what is the standard that players should follow? The event description as written in the New Event Cycle? Or the rules of the event itself?

And you only backtracked on the "your opinion does not matter after I called you out on it'. After you posted a reply at 6:13 PM my time. I posted this at 6:10 PM. I'm not purposefully trying to hide what you said - just that your message did not come until after I posted this.

Small advice - I guess if you don't want people to get upset, communicate better especially in an event where it involves at a minimum $200.


I'll post the rest of our conversation so that there will be transparency to the rest of the players.

Convo Pt1Convo Pt 2




This post was last edited by RNJesus1 on 2018-05-28 06:33:38.
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On 2018-05-28 06:49:05Show this Author Only
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I am pretty sure you said you are no longer interested in having another discussion with me but sure, no problem.


Coding on test server and on live server is a bit different. Also, test server contains more things than live servers do. Even after testing there is always a possibility that bugs slip through.


Actions were taken right after we’ve received first reports about ranking not working. Of course we had to confirm it first. I have mentioned this in our conversation already tho.


As for the mistake in my mesaage - it happens to me a lot lately. I keep thinking about what I am typing, I think I did type it but reality is different. I apologize once again.

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On 2018-05-28 06:59:53Show this Author Only
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On 2018-05-28 07:00:22Show this Author Only
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Probably should have put a /s at the end of my message.

If you guys needed to confirm the display bug, could you guys have made an announcement that you were looking into this event and inform the players not to spend? A little heads up would be nice because there are quite a few players from other forum posts that spent in this event and are not happy.


I'm pretty mean in front of a keyboard (as are all internet warriors) but what I'm asking for and I know a lot of the player base is as well is communication and transparency. If you think there's a bug on the live server, tell us. Otherwise, what's going to happen in the future if something similar happens again? I don't think it's fair for some players to spend and then 3 days later be notified that the there is a bug within the event and is providing misleading information (the rankings).

Can you let us know going forward, what are the rules we should follow? The forum posts or the game itself?

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  • RNJesus1 On 2018-05-28 07:00:22
  • Probably should have put a /s at the end of my message.

    If you guys needed to confirm the display bug, could you guys have made an announcement that you were looking into this event and inform the players not to spend? A little heads up would be nice because there are quite a few players from other forum posts that spent in this event and are not happy.


    I'm pretty mean in front of a keyboard (as are all internet warriors) but what I'm asking for and I know a lot of the player base is as well is communication and transparency. If you think there's a bug on the live server, tell us. Otherwise, what's going to happen in the future if something similar happens again? I don't think it's fair for some players to spend and then 3 days later be notified that the there is a bug within the event and is providing misleading information (the rankings).

    Can you let us know going forward, what are the rules we should follow? The forum posts or the game itself?

We've received reports regarding flower event 2/3 days (depending on your time zone) after new (current) event cycle. We took actions right away.




This post was last edited by Daiske on 2018-05-28 07:10:52.
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On 2018-05-28 07:20:05Show this Author Only
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I think they need to post the rankings ASAP. I am planning to recharge for the event because I already have 100 sunflowers. If this is cross server it would piss me of BIG TIME. While early Daiske can you confirm if this is cross-server or server exclusive event before we recharge?

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On 2018-05-28 07:24:16Show this Author Only
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On 2018-05-28 07:31:06Show this Author Only
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  • Daiske On 2018-05-28 06:21:37
  • Hello.


    Do not worry, it will not get deleted. Instead of that, I will reply with the rest of our conversation because clearly you are trying to create a fight or drama for no reason.

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    You are claiming we are trying to deny that there is any problem with flower event. Unfortunately, there is one. We as team can't decide if we will send compensation to players or what it should be because during weekends we are not working. Weekends are off for whole team. And since this case is a bit more complicated, only developers can decided how exactly will be this problem handled. We will have a conversation with them later today. There was no miscommunication between us and our team. This event was supposed to be cross-server from the start and it is cross-server. This information is not mentioned in event rules - we will update event rules so next time this event comes back, it will be clear to everyone. We apologize for this problem, it's on us.

    EDIT: Small advice, it is not nice to share someone's if both sides do not agree.

I know you guys try to do your best for us, but when when you do sit down with the team and discuss how to resolve this, you should seriously consider to make this event server/merged server only for this time.

One of the reason is just the prize for being first. I would understand if it was a super rare ninja being a cross-server event prize for the whole region, but doing it for Edo Tobirama...? Seems like a rip-off to be honest. You could get him for like around 20k, and last time he was the prize for recharging 30k.

A ranking in a merged server can easily spend 2-3 times his worth..

Anyway, we hope this get resolved with a good result.




This post was last edited by Bozz on 2018-05-28 07:32:01.
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On 2018-05-28 07:38:26Show this Author Only
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  • Bozz On 2018-05-28 07:31:06
  • I know you guys try to do your best for us, but when when you do sit down with the team and discuss how to resolve this, you should seriously consider to make this event server/merged server only for this time.

    One of the reason is just the prize for being first. I would understand if it was a super rare ninja being a cross-server event prize for the whole region, but doing it for Edo Tobirama...? Seems like a rip-off to be honest. You could get him for like around 20k, and last time he was the prize for recharging 30k.

    A ranking in a merged server can easily spend 2-3 times his worth..

    Anyway, we hope this get resolved with a good result.

I wouldn't be so sure about it. Just look at the discord channel. No need to voice up just blocked the player and carry on with the business. The fact they didn't announce it right away its clearly a rip off. Even if its bug and they notice it why no change in Friday or just simply mail player hey there is a bug. Not all read forum. Feel sorry for all people that wasted atleast 200$ and got f instead. Well played well played.

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On 2018-05-28 07:51:33Show this Author Only
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  • Cond1 On 2018-05-28 07:38:26
  • I wouldn't be so sure about it. Just look at the discord channel. No need to voice up just blocked the player and carry on with the business. The fact they didn't announce it right away its clearly a rip off. Even if its bug and they notice it why no change in Friday or just simply mail player hey there is a bug. Not all read forum. Feel sorry for all people that wasted atleast 200$ and got f instead. Well played well played.

What did the optimist say as he jumped off of a building? So far, so good

So lets try to stay positive until they find a solution :)

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On 2018-05-28 08:16:30Show this Author Only
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to be honest, i guesses this is a cross server event before the maintenance finish (from the youtube video i watch when research other thing in game/ new ninjas). It make sense to be a cross server event consider you may get minato edo or sage of the 6 path from the event (from one of the video i watched). However, a bug happened to paypal recharge on the first days so i can't do any recharge thus have no gold to spend to get ranking. On the second day it is fixed but when i look at event ranking it is completely empty which is very fishy. So i went on forum do some research and wait for a while. Eventually a bug confirm appeared and what disappointed me is the developer said " they will update the ranking at the end of the event ". Without the ranking how exactly do i know how much it is going to cost to win 1st 2nd or 3rd? anything below 3rd is worthless lolz...This kind of event demand a on fly ranking update just like how sakura gift work. Given the ranking after the event is over doesn't help since it wont change the ranking anyway.

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On 2018-05-28 08:34:44Show this Author Only
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https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-31966-1.html


Here full details. TOBEI already announced that the event was cross server ranking. I feel sorry for the players that recharged knowing that it's a server exclusive event.

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  • Daiske On 2018-05-28 07:10:33
  • We've received reports regarding flower event 2/3 days (depending on your time zone) after new (current) event cycle. We took actions right away.

You took action but you did not notify the player base until 3 days later after you guys conducted further testing. That is unacceptable on an event where the prize is driven by monetary value.

As for your QC environment, how did you guys test this? Do you have a test server where you have merged servers to simulate what it would be like if multiple servers participated in this event? I have a difficult time understanding how you could have missed this unless your test server is only based on a single server.

And can you answer the question about what we should do regarding events in the future? Go by what is indicated on the forum post or the rules of the event? You need to provide some guidelines so that the player base knows what to expect going forward.

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On 2018-05-28 12:48:47Show this Author Only
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I just want something done about it, 200+ is a lot money, i will of never cash for this Flower event if i had know it was cross.




This post was last edited by Tenichi on 2018-05-28 12:50:09.
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On 2018-05-28 13:33:00Show this Author Only
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They better compensate the player base because this is horrible. Clearly horrible. If they just apologized and didn't compensate the players that participated to get 200 flowers it would be considered as a rip off.

I am playing a different game that has the same issue like this. Spend certain amount and you will get prize until 5 days after the event they learn that there's an error on the game similar to this. They reported the game to google and facebook because of rip off.




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