In the next patch seal jutsu becomes able to immobile also immune ninjas, so will be way more acceptable than now.

That said you want too much, mirror shield is just right now too strong and should be nerfed imho exactly like dance of impetus.

It's not a matter of her synergy, It's what she doesn't offer besides Healing.

Additionally, she's a consistent target. Anybody with Kurama, Deidara, etc will melt her. She's not popular till core Supports come out and even then, those Supports are better paired with Wind Main (Beach Sakura)

Is too soon, but later on there will be another update the to main talents and fire main will get a buff so yep just keep playing for now.

LoL, i thought was clear i was suggesting things that made no sense, but i did it to make him understand how unreasonable were his requests.

I'm pretty sure he meant that exists at least one team with her that beats on comparable power all the 'optimal' teams you talked about.

(i am perfectly able to figure one, guessing what he wanted to say).

Which there isn't.

It's variables of other teams. The only Azure Fang team that has any depth would be Kurama-Sage Hashi-Kisame Shark at the moment.

Secondary to Edo Deidara, Kisame Shark, Jinpachi.

Which are both stellar at this point, considering the kind of game we're playing.

I'm too lazy to read your essays so all I can say is that your wrong. Fire main is useful and his main is basically triggered with debuffs like my personal favs: Blindness, Imprison, and Sleeping. Your probably a low level who fights Higher teams and gets beaten by them with Fire main. Plus since he has immunity to debuffs, transfer debuffs, give debuffs, buff his team, and can heal people when attacking with ninjutsu, it pretty much proves he's useful. Again your probably saying he's useless just by comparing him to other mains.

I didn't read any of the comments, so sue me if i copy anything or put the convo on a tangent.

Fire main is supposed to be a more ninjitsu based special assist character. If you look back to the beginning of the game when you choose the first main character, it said something like specializes in ninjitsu and a lot of other things. Also, we need diversity like this. If you don't like fire main, just switch!

Yes, it is exactly what i was implying.

Remove kurama or kisame (at your choice, obviously the talents change accordingly. If you use kurama you use regenerative healing jutsu if you use kisame you use shark bomb) and add kushina habanero and you have the team i was talking about. You are saying she does not give any support but you are forgetting poison tai that kushina habanero let you spread also to immune ninjas (and let you also immobile them with hashirama). In china close to none had kushina habanero, here her and shisui are more common than sage naruto and ay3rd. If you are making comparison taking in account chinese gameplayers when 99% of them did not own kushina habanero you are making a big mistake.

Dude let me tell you don't compare SB to any other main cuz all of the main are unique and beside all the other main can't function if you won't put any ninjas/line up and for what I've seen so far SB is most common on P2W player.

Even tho I'm a F2P player I like my team with fire edo dei,jin,fire and jigo.

Just relax for people who are saying buff fire main cuz fire main gets buff in cn server so just wait

Go make Fire main stronger please????????? Very cool char but just too weak to compare with other mains :S :S

if my essay can be summed up into two sentence, it is this "anything fire main can do, other main can do it better. fire main is the only one without niche he is excel at"

Im at lvl 79, I dont think its low level. in fact, if Im still low level I will not care so much about FM since at low level its more about numbers in your power rather than utilizing every little detail your main and ninja has

well of course I am comparing him to other main, if not it will only boil down to spewing all super specific ninja lineup to prove he is as strong (if not stronger) than other main, and everyone can come up with anything like that not just with fire main but other main as well

i like fire clone, 2 standard attack, 1cd mysteri cd.

not like EM get nerfed his passive and his shield :)

ok the problem with comparing fire main to any off the other mains is 90% OF EVERY OTHER MAIN hardly uses there standards that start a combo besides lightning main, his mysterys and passives are under the same set up since you will only ever see atleast 1 or 2 passive set ups on other mains while fire main can go with mostly any standard and any passive(besides mirror bounce you will nearly always use it) while lightning main will always be using root since other then blitz and swordsman lineups he is meh, wind main is never set up a damage dealer from what i see now so you will only see imputes or the wind buff remover, and earth is always set up as a shield machine, while water main will only be seen as a healer.
what i am saying is you cannot compare a main to another since they are only built in certain ways now so thats like someone saying iruka should be able to chaos and combo like susanoo itachi it wont happen nor should it be balanced like that

whales only use SB to support their other 7k$ teams. they don't use SB because to win they use him to ''enable'' their madaras and itachis to win then the match.

eh, and what did i say?

so how can be the weakest main if let you work the team that is exactly the purpose of any main character?

The main reason why sb is op is simply linked to how bad are scripted the game mechanics.

If was actually possible to interrupt sb 4th mystery without having to fully guess the moment when the enemy will use it and maybe miss the same due to the delayed mysteries lag issue then sb would be relatively weak. But since this is not possible at all, currently, unless the enemy is an idiot and use it asap at the beginning of the match, then that mystery becomes an issue because the only way to prevent it for sure would be to use mysteries like ao's or itachi susano'o's. The problem is that the combination of 4th mystery and mirror passive makes impossible if not counterproductive to use that strategy. So is not possible to prevent it and is almost not possible to interrupt it, that is why sb is strong.

So, or they change the game mechanics to let interrupters work as in any decent game do they work (most optimal solution) or they change 4th mystery to become more situational, something like: 'it clears all the debuffs and it makes immune the enemies to debuffs as long as they are shielded for this round' so that if a ninja suffers enough damage loses the debuff immunity.

Lol that mystery change makes no sense, he has only 2 things going for him and that is Illusion Shield and Genjutsu Mirror, even those can be stopped if you're smart.

SB lacks a good permanent buff, Ninjutsu Urge is a joke compared to Anbu Tactics, Guidance, Defense Knowledge.

Basically, I know you play water main and fire main pretty much is the counter for their cancerous poisons and cancerous heals. But really? To make his only good mystery useless that is your suggestion? Those shields he gives go away in 1 standard attack, worst shields in the whole game, then their not immune anymore and you can poison all over again. Lol...

No, you misunderstood.

Lets say a ninja is shielded. The attack that makes the shield fade away does not deliver any debuffs in my example. So you do not risk, for example, to be nuked by a shark bomb that removes the shields with the damage and after that chaoses everybody. Obviously this would be prevented. What would change in comparison with now is what happens after that attack during that round.

The point is that what sb does right now makes itachi susano'o, shisui, madara team a team almost invincible if you own initiative that requires no brain used and no playing skill while every other whale only team requires one of the two to work fine and they are still subjected to the delay mystery lag issue.

If you ask me what main currently is the best 'healer'i would say scarlet blaze since his 4th mystery does exactly what regenerative healing jutsu should do and since mirror passive let him use it when he wants.

For how the game works now to rebalance things a bit nature energy gathering of azure fang and mirror of sb should be swapped would make way more sense.