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[ Scarlet Blaze ] Why Scarlet Blaze is Weak and Some Suggestion

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On 2018-04-09 20:08:38Show All Posts
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First of all Scarlet Blaze lacks any clear debuffs or immunity on himself and other characters, accupuncture him round 1 and he can't do anything about it, unless you waste a ninja slot on a useless character like Gakido. Replace one of his standard attacks with a lightning main calm mind for example. Yea he can bait dodge with his fourth standard but he's gonna be slot 3-4 ninja anyway, cause he's only good for support.

Look at Lightning Main, immunity to 3 sword ninjas and 100% more resistance. Not only you can't debuff them, unless you have Han/Mask Man/Kushina Red. Cause round 2 may be already too late if they have more initiative, but you also do 100% less damage with ninjutsu. Considering sword ninjas are meta ninjas, lightning main will only have 1 spot that may drag the team down, which isn't the case if he puts Kushina Red, or any other good immune, dodge ninja, super armor ninja. Basically if you can't debuff them you lost the fight.

Look at Wind Main, they stack res and def on her, make her immune, then you waste combo on her, they use Kurenai's shield on her, then she clears everyone's debuffs and can do mysteries all over again.

Now look at Fire Main, only has 1 good mystery, Illusion-Mirroring jutsu, 3 round cooldown, if it gets interrupted it's GG, if you get immobilized your clone is only a meatshield, not as good as water's clone, or wind main's.

Let's look at Fire Main in comparison to Lightning again, Lightning has better leech, with Warrior's Killing Intent he c*e Shisui every round. You only have 1 good pvp passive as SB, Genjutsu Mirror, which can be easily baited, while LM gets Root of Warrior, Anbu Special Tactics and Warrior's Killing Intent, also Heart Flux for Madara Blitz Teams. LM has Accupuncture, AOE Paralysis, Lightning Armor, and potential every round mystery. SB still only Illusion Mirror for pvp.

SUGGESTIONS for Scarlet Blaze improvement:

1. Make Illusion-Mirroring Jutsu 2 round cooldown instead of 3.

2. Replace one of his standard attacks with one similar to Lightning Main's Calm Mind.

3. Make his clone attack on it's own, using Scarlet Blaze's Fire Style-Bomb Blast. Make it have 60% of it's owner HP instead of 40%. Basically same % as Water Main's version of it.

4. Make Ninjutsu Urge leech for 25% and improve ninjutsu by 25%. Basically same % as LM's version of it. Keep Genjutsu Mirror where it is, his only redeeming passive.

5. Last but not least, give him Immunity Passive to 3 fire ninjas and 100% resistance, name it Root of Fire and replace Death Mirage with it.

There is no point in having a talent slot, a weaker clone of someone else's talent, cause it still wastes one talent slot.

Now BRB while I switch to Lightning Main, seem to be the better option for PvP.



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On 2018-04-09 20:11:32Show All Posts
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Or actually replace Bani Chakra, the most useless passive in the game.

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On 2018-04-09 22:13:41Show All Posts
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  • ZWen On 2018-04-09 21:47:41
  • Fire main don't actually need a lot of changes in his kit like many others said. He just need a few add-on effect on his current kit.


    Mystery :
    - 3rd mystery should ignore and go through immune to debuffs ninja, remove the cd reduction passive if Oboro clone is present.

    - 4th mystery's mystery should add a shield base on his TOTAL res, not his based res.

    Passive :

    - Mirror return should be revert back to 1.0 where it give a passive buff that increase damage deal to ignited targets because this is his best gimmick imo. He is a fire jutsu expert so he should act like it. But currently ignite is kinda weak beside it only purpose to counter some water team because it capped at 1k9 damage per tick and there are many immune ninjas out there.


    I think that's all fire main need. So all main are unique and have their own gimmick.
    Fire : ignite and increase damage on them, strong control.
    Lightning : immune swordman and leech and mystery cd reset and paralyze and look cool.
    Water : healing, remove debuffs, poison.
    Earth : shielding, increase damage when have shield.


    BTW I know this thread is kinda useless because no matter we discuss here won't reach tencent. But who care about that? As long as you have fun typing stuffs lol

I agree with everything here, especially with the 3rd mystery going through immune ninjas. Now he would have 2 mystery choices, depending on play style.

He's the main character after all, he should be able to remove the buffs of 1 ninja and immobilize him, like masked man does, because in the current meta & future ones, that skill is useless unless it gets this upgrade. Too many pure immune, temporary immune, healer teams.

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On 2018-04-09 22:45:58Show All Posts
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  • Kuro하돌 On 2018-04-09 22:17:41
  • Just wait couple of years~ he can immobile Pure immune ( Roshi , Bee , Kushi HB , etc)

    Couple Of Yearssssssss~

This can't wait a couple of years, a couple of weeks/months maybe. xD

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On 2018-04-10 18:22:59Show All Posts
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SUGGESTIONS:

Mystery changes:

1. Sealing Jutsu - Seal of Red Lotus = Causes Immobile and Imprison to a selected opponent's unit, also clears it's buffs and shields. Negates any sort of immunity. If an Oboro Clone is present in your lineup, the skill's cooldown time will be reduced by 1 round. Cooldown Time: 3 rounds / Battlefield Cooldown: 0/ 0 Chakra

2. Illusion - Mirroring Vision = Shields to a whole selected Lineup based on 50% of this unit's Resistance base attribute. Moreover, all Debuffs on these units will be canceled, and they will be immune to debuffs for 2 rounds. Cooldown Time: 3 rounds/ Battlefield Cooldown; 0/ 0 Chakra

^(since 2 rounds cooldown would be too OP I made it so it lasts 2 rounds instead of 1 with 3 round cooldown :D)

Standard Attack changes:

1. Lightning Main's "Calm Mind" instead of "Taijutsu Attack"

2. Fire Style - Bomb Blast Dance = Attacks the opponent's entire lineup with 80% chance of causing ignition to everybody. This skill never misses.

Chase skills:

They're ok.

Passive Talents changes:

1. Genjutsu - Mirror Return = Every round, the first Debuff caused to 1 unit of your Lineup will be transferred to one of the opponent's units. Deals more damage to ignited opponents.

2. "Root of Fire" instead of "Bani Chakra" = At the beginning of the battle, up to 3 Fire - Attribute Ninjas (Madara, Shisui, Masked Man, Itachi, Jinpachi, basically all OP PvP ninjas) from your Lineup will be Immune to Debuffs and will have their Resistance increased by 100%. Lasts for 2 Rounds.

3. Oboro Clone Jutsu = Same as it is now but with 60% life points of the main's body instead of 45%

4. Ninjutsu Urge = 25% bonus to Ninjutsu, 25% Leech

Also make him more dark, cool looking like Madara or Sasuke. Give him a Sharingan and maybe a new special mystery that comes along with it. Maybe change Fire Style - Bomb Blast dance to Amaterasu = Ignite the entire team 100%, lasts for 10 rounds, can't be cleared.

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On 2018-04-24 18:43:37Show All Posts
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-04-24 18:22:21
  • The main reason why sb is op is simply linked to how bad are scripted the game mechanics.

    If was actually possible to interrupt sb 4th mystery without having to fully guess the moment when the enemy will use it and maybe miss the same due to the delayed mysteries lag issue then sb would be relatively weak. But since this is not possible at all, currently, unless the enemy is an idiot and use it asap at the beginning of the match, then that mystery becomes an issue because the only way to prevent it for sure would be to use mysteries like ao's or itachi susano'o's. The problem is that the combination of 4th mystery and mirror passive makes impossible if not counterproductive to use that strategy. So is not possible to prevent it and is almost not possible to interrupt it, that is why sb is strong.

    So, or they change the game mechanics to let interrupters work as in any decent game do they work (most optimal solution) or they change 4th mystery to become more situational, something like: 'it clears all the debuffs and it makes immune the enemies to debuffs as long as they are shielded for this round' so that if a ninja suffers enough damage loses the debuff immunity.

Lol that mystery change makes no sense, he has only 2 things going for him and that is Illusion Shield and Genjutsu Mirror, even those can be stopped if you're smart.

SB lacks a good permanent buff, Ninjutsu Urge is a joke compared to Anbu Tactics, Guidance, Defense Knowledge.

Basically, I know you play water main and fire main pretty much is the counter for their cancerous poisons and cancerous heals. But really? To make his only good mystery useless that is your suggestion? Those shields he gives go away in 1 standard attack, worst shields in the whole game, then their not immune anymore and you can poison all over again. Lol...

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On 2018-04-24 20:50:50Show All Posts
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-04-24 19:13:34
  • No, you misunderstood.

    Lets say a ninja is shielded. The attack that makes the shield fade away does not deliver any debuffs in my example. So you do not risk, for example, to be nuked by a shark bomb that removes the shields with the damage and after that chaoses everybody. Obviously this would be prevented. What would change in comparison with now is what happens after that attack during that round.

    The point is that what sb does right now makes itachi susano'o, shisui, madara team a team almost invincible if you own initiative that requires no brain used and no playing skill while every other whale only team requires one of the two to work fine and they are still subjected to the delay mystery lag issue.

    If you ask me what main currently is the best 'healer'i would say scarlet blaze since his 4th mystery does exactly what regenerative healing jutsu should do and since mirror passive let him use it when he wants.

    For how the game works now to rebalance things a bit nature energy gathering of azure fang and mirror of sb should be swapped would make way more sense.

It would make absolutely 0 sense, Scarlet Blaze is Sharingan/Genjutsu/Fire, and Azure Fang is healer who uses Senjutsu I believe.

How can you swap Uchiha ability with Sage mode ability lol.

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On 2018-04-25 00:42:52Show All Posts
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At least give Scarlet Blaze a knockdown chase.

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