Empress build struggles in the current meta. First of all, your main moves second, and almost every teamcomp uses at least one form of cc (be it acu, immobile, chaos), debuffs on top of it so karin cant clear those debuffs in order for main to act. Second problem is that empress build was meta during 1.0, when there werent that many ninjas. If you look at recently released good female ninjas, you have Fuu, hokage tsunade, sailor sakura and mei. The game lacks strong females, thats why this archetype is simply outclassed by dance of impetus teams. It's still easy to obtain free team, that works really well in the early game and vs blitz teams (since you take close to no damage r1).

You could try variation that i've recently seen: sasuke playboy, mei, mabui and wind main.

thanks

The build has NEVER been good. It was suggested pre-kage treasure (november last year), because it was the least terrible build of a completely un-viable main back in the early days of the game.

Anyone who get paralyze off on your team get a free win, as the build no longer has the firepower to kill anything. Anyone who use a CC skill on the main on round 2 get a free win, as it immediately throws the main on a 4 round cooldown, the team has no way of dealing notable damage outside of the main myestery. Despite massive buffs to giant rasengan (3 round cd instead of 4, and no longer go on full cd if interupted), it still cannot compete with today's teams.

PS: there aren't many blitz teams early game. Lightnings mainly run chidori spear at low levels, which hard counter empress.

IamScrub: thats one opinion. Build itself is good for leveling (although getting karin from group shop is a pain, because each time u sacrifice 5 refines for 20 karin frags). The thing of this build is, that it's not meant to be played as auto/proactive build. It's reactive. Since everybody focuses main, with the lowest hp she will be the target of karin's heal and 1 debuff disperse. Adding flower guard removes second layer of debuffs from main and 1 debuff from other females. Even if main is paralyzed after all that, acupuncture chase from hinata after rasengan cast still applies to someone. Many wind mains run sasuke instead of kurenai just for additional mystery in case main is cced, still gets a full combo even without main. That being said, if opposing team is either faster on move2 or uses move1, without at least 3 debuffs wind main c*ways use mystery.

I'm not claiming this team is endgame, its not. It has its weaknesses like every other team, biggest of which is move2 action on turn2. After karin skill breakthrough comes to our version it will slightly strenghten the team, because of another debuff disperse provided by karin, when she uses 0chakra mystery. Also kurenai's skillbreak shield will remove all debuffs from target.

Sadly it's the only viable build for wind mains, that dont have good ninjas to work with dance of impetus mystery.

If you use Sailor instead of Karin, and you are willing to get hit in round 2, you c*e mystery without any trouble.

2 requirements must be met:

1) You can survive enemy combo

2) You are not using auto-combat, cuz that will most likely screw you

One way or another, empress build is still interesting f2p fun-to-use lineup. ^^

The main problem of empress build is that there are not many viable girls in the game.

A build that could work now could be hebihime, mei, sailor sakura or common sakura full breakthrough so that can clear all the debuffs every round, but still is nowhere as good as other lineups. The main issue is that flower barrier should actually give also some kind of boost to females, something like the new pose of duel of earth main, not only removing one stack of debuff.

Auto really is useless when it comes to Instance.

Enemy combos are very annoying why the maintenance this afternoon?

the last matsuri i beat a blitz team with my empress team it was fun my empress have 62k power and the blitz was 70k my hinata win that battle.

And sometimes i beat water meta tenten mei mabui need skill to play just wait the rival move first with mabui and mei debuff go to the enemy after that just focus mei to stop her and if you have more ini than enemy tenten you can stop her in next round and even kill her

Actually, it just depends who you use for your Empress Build. I have used replacements for Kurenai and Karin (GNW Sai and GNW Sakura) and it worked even better than the original by giving GNW Sakura and GNW Sai's summon-able meat shields and a lot of high-quality healing (from GNW Sakura's slugs) with some immobility (GNW Sai) to go with Hinata's acupuncture.