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On 2019-06-21 09:50:59Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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So edo roshis mystery says "when your chakra us below 60 this skill does 20 percent less damage", so what does this mean? It costs 60 chakra so you literally can't have 60 chakra while using it either since all chakra generation you get from using the mystery is applied after the mystery goes off instead of before.edo roshi




This post was last edited by Yllemini022@gma on 2019-06-21 09:50:59.
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On 2019-06-20 18:01:52Show this Author Only
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Should be 80, is a bad translation.


If you use the mystery when you have less than 80 chakra it deals 20% less damage.

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On 2019-06-21 07:09:16Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-06-20 18:01:52
  • Should be 80, is a bad translation.


    If you use the mystery when you have less than 80 chakra it deals 20% less damage.

no it doesnt work that way, its when he has the barrier up and you use his mystery which costs 60 and GAINS an additional 30. so you need to start off with 90 chakra.


@Scarlettblue the translation is correct, just the wording

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On 2019-06-21 08:55:11Show this Author Only
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  • OX-BADTEMP On 2019-06-21 07:09:16
  • no it doesnt work that way, its when he has the barrier up and you use his mystery which costs 60 and GAINS an additional 30. so you need to start off with 90 chakra.


    @Scarlettblue the translation is correct, just the wording

You don't gain teh chakra until after the mystery goes off though like I said so you wouldn't be able to have 60 chakra after you click the mystery and before it goes off.

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On 2019-06-21 19:05:21Show this Author Only
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  • OX-BADTEMP On 2019-06-21 07:09:16
  • no it doesnt work that way, its when he has the barrier up and you use his mystery which costs 60 and GAINS an additional 30. so you need to start off with 90 chakra.


    @Scarlettblue the translation is correct, just the wording

You get 30 chakra even when the barrier is not up. That one is his passive.

We are talking about the mystery.

The mystery originally costed 80 chakra then they modified it and now costs 60 chakra only but if you have less than 80 chakra before using it lands 20% less damage.


Lets try to clarify.


You have 100 chakra before using the mystery.

The mystery lands full damage and you go at 40 chakra then the passive effect procs and you gain 30 chakra going at 70.


You have 70 chakra before using the mystery.

The mystery lands 80% damage only you go at 10 chakra and then the passive procs and you gain 30 chakra going at 40.


This is how it works.

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On 2019-06-22 04:25:51Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-06-21 19:05:21
  • You get 30 chakra even when the barrier is not up. That one is his passive.

    We are talking about the mystery.

    The mystery originally costed 80 chakra then they modified it and now costs 60 chakra only but if you have less than 80 chakra before using it lands 20% less damage.


    Lets try to clarify.


    You have 100 chakra before using the mystery.

    The mystery lands full damage and you go at 40 chakra then the passive effect procs and you gain 30 chakra going at 70.


    You have 70 chakra before using the mystery.

    The mystery lands 80% damage only you go at 10 chakra and then the passive procs and you gain 30 chakra going at 40.


    This is how it works.

You get the chakra from roshis passive AFTER the mystery goes off so no, that wouldn't work either.

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On 2019-06-23 02:51:20Show this Author Only
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you don't understand, the damage the mystery does depends on the amount of chakra you have BEFORE using it. the chakra you get from his passive after doesnt matter at all, if we go with what your saying the mystery would remove 20% of the damage already done if your chakra is not high enough after the skill, doesnt make sense put that way right ?

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On 2019-06-23 02:57:52Show this Author Only
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  • AzureNakata On 2019-06-23 02:51:20
  • you don't understand, the damage the mystery does depends on the amount of chakra you have BEFORE using it. the chakra you get from his passive after doesnt matter at all, if we go with what your saying the mystery would remove 20% of the damage already done if your chakra is not high enough after the skill, doesnt make sense put that way right ?

Actually you would also be wrong, if you look at edo itachis dream state debuff, which takes 30 chakra along with debuff removal to remove, requires u to have 30 chakra while removing it. Which means earth mains double standard mystery wont remove it if you only have 40 chakra to start with since the game still requires 30 chakra to remove the dream state, so staying consistent to this way the game works would mean that edo roshis mystery, based on the text for it, would require you to have 60 chakra WHILE using the mystery after you click it yet before the mystery goes off, to get the full damage. So, sorry, but youre wrong.

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On 2019-06-23 07:31:29Show this Author Only
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why even ask for explanations on his mystery if your just going to answer back to everyone with how you think the mystery work. ScarletBlue already explained how it works.

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On 2019-06-23 07:36:48Show this Author Only
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  • AzureNakata On 2019-06-23 07:31:29
  • why even ask for explanations on his mystery if your just going to answer back to everyone with how you think the mystery work. ScarletBlue already explained how it works.

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On 2019-06-23 20:44:45Show this Author Only
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Hi! Let's be respectful to each other. Most players in the community is just trying to help. Whether their information is correct or not, remember that they have good intentions =p


I am currently asking my team to confirm the information and will update you guys as soon as I can =]

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On 2019-06-25 03:51:50Show this Author Only
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ok122


damage with 60 chakra while using the mystery.


ok123


damage with 90 chakra while using the mystery.



the damage is exactly the same.


edo roshi mystery was changed twice since edo roshi introduction.


in 4.0 costed 80 chakra and his barrier gave 40% boost to nin too.

in 5.0 costed 60 chakra and worked like scarlettblue said while his barrier gave only defense like now.

now in 6.0 works this way because there are his skillbreaktroughs/trials just preset in game.

what i think is we still have the 5.0 description of his mystery, but now the last sentence should be removed.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2019-06-25 03:53:10.
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On 2019-06-25 04:13:22Show this Author Only
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It's easy to check OP's speculations, just put Edo Roshi in position 2, fire main with bani chakra position 1. In the beginning of the round, if you have 80 or more chakra and didn't use bani chakra that round, you should queue Edo Roshi's and Fire Main's mysteries at the same time. That way Edo Roshi will have 60+ chakra at the very moment he's using mystery.


Though said all that, I believe what Garv wrote is correct.

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On 2019-06-25 20:03:20Show this Author Only
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Hi! Sorry for the long wait. Our team has checked and investigated the Roshi [Edo Tensei] Skill. It looks like the skill should only read, “Causes Earth and Fire attribute damage and Ignition to up to 9 units of the opponent’s formation and cases Knockdown and Immobile to a selected opponent’s unit.”


What this means is that the last part should be updated and omitted, "When your Chakra is below 60%, this skill will do 20% less damage." Garv's guess was correct =p


I have reported this issue directly with the team in regards to the description and it will be corrected.


Thank you so much to everyone.




This post was last edited by Jiburiru on 2019-06-25 20:03:43.
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On 2019-06-25 22:24:05Show this Author Only
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yw

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On 2019-06-26 09:47:12Show this Author Only
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Actually ...


It took me that long to confirm this issue (sorry about that). Also thanks to Jib~ and Yllemini022 for reporting this issue to us.




This post was last edited by Daiske on 2019-06-26 09:47:50.
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