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As the title says, which one is better?


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On 2019-06-10 16:58:38Show this Author Only
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Ask that question after few months. You can't really compare someone, to a ninja which just few players have. And comparing what happens in CN and in our version is just

Edit: I'm saying this because i know others will try to argue which one is better. Just silly. ^^

Good luck o/




This post was last edited by s1volu on 2019-06-10 17:40:41.
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On 2019-06-10 17:28:58Show this Author Only
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  • s1volu On 2019-06-10 16:58:38
  • Ask that question after few months. You can't really compare someone, to a ninja which just few players have. And comparing what happens in CN and in our version is just

    Edit: I'm saying this because i know others will try to argue which one is better. Just silly. ^^

    Good luck o/

sorry

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On 2019-06-10 22:38:01Show this Author Only
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In a 1v1 fight, without mirror, light main immunity and katsuyu's mystery for Ronin Naruto, Six path win(I saw a video). With all the passive and skill's I've mentionned before, i've never seen them fight but I think Ronin Naruto will win.

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  • momohiu On 2019-06-10 22:38:01
  • In a 1v1 fight, without mirror, light main immunity and katsuyu's mystery for Ronin Naruto, Six path win(I saw a video). With all the passive and skill's I've mentionned before, i've never seen them fight but I think Ronin Naruto will win.

That's like saying sage Naruto is better than 6 paths Naruto. Only if you're running wind main reset and a full buff team, have initiative and the enemy is all using akatsuki units.


Given all those prerequisites I think you're trying to fool yourself that ronin Naruto is more powerful

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On 2019-06-11 08:54:13Show this Author Only
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  • HolotheWiseWolf On 2019-06-11 07:26:06
  • That's like saying sage Naruto is better than 6 paths Naruto. Only if you're running wind main reset and a full buff team, have initiative and the enemy is all using akatsuki units.


    Given all those prerequisites I think you're trying to fool yourself that ronin Naruto is more powerful

you can disagree with him explaining your thoughts. No need to insult the person. sMH.

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On 2019-06-11 15:59:47Show this Author Only
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They are the opposite kind of ninjas.

Naruto six paths is the ninja with an op personal set but low damage so may be placed in any position and works fine both as a controlling move 1 that manages the gameplay for many rounds leading you to a potential late win main or as an annoying move 2/3 to deal with that let your move 1 do what it wants.

Naruto ronin is like kushimaru or lee. He works exclusively as move 1 and strictly requires to have 3 full dedicate buffers/supporters.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-06-11 16:01:09.
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On 2019-06-13 08:24:31Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-06-11 15:59:47
  • They are the opposite kind of ninjas.

    Naruto six paths is the ninja with an op personal set but low damage so may be placed in any position and works fine both as a controlling move 1 that manages the gameplay for many rounds leading you to a potential late win main or as an annoying move 2/3 to deal with that let your move 1 do what it wants.

    Naruto ronin is like kushimaru or lee. He works exclusively as move 1 and strictly requires to have 3 full dedicate buffers/supporters.

I noticed that. I fought a 160k SOP Team that rekt me alive. I'm 212k by the way.. Naruto SOP will outlast you if you have no sustain on your team. So the conclusion is Naruto SOP> Naruto Ronin? I am planning to save coupons until Ronin was available for coupons purchase. What do you suggest?

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On 2019-06-13 09:06:34Show this Author Only
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  • Liez07 On 2019-06-13 08:24:31
  • I noticed that. I fought a 160k SOP Team that rekt me alive. I'm 212k by the way.. Naruto SOP will outlast you if you have no sustain on your team. So the conclusion is Naruto SOP> Naruto Ronin? I am planning to save coupons until Ronin was available for coupons purchase. What do you suggest?

Nah. He's in an inifinte tsukuyomi rebate so I doubt he will ever be available for coupon purchase. Granted, in my opinion, if you really want something don't let someone tell you otherwise. Play the game how you want to play it

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  • Liez07 On 2019-06-13 08:24:31
  • I noticed that. I fought a 160k SOP Team that rekt me alive. I'm 212k by the way.. Naruto SOP will outlast you if you have no sustain on your team. So the conclusion is Naruto SOP> Naruto Ronin? I am planning to save coupons until Ronin was available for coupons purchase. What do you suggest?

You need to have about 100k power gap to win naruto easily...using edo hiruzen to 1shot...assuming he is not running edo itachi. Everyone and their grandma running around with naruto for a reason....naruto 6 paths cancer reeeee

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On 2019-06-14 00:09:57Show this Author Only
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  • Liez07 On 2019-06-13 08:24:31
  • I noticed that. I fought a 160k SOP Team that rekt me alive. I'm 212k by the way.. Naruto SOP will outlast you if you have no sustain on your team. So the conclusion is Naruto SOP> Naruto Ronin? I am planning to save coupons until Ronin was available for coupons purchase. What do you suggest?

Which team were you using? I defeated 6 path naruto on a one on one fight with AGK, we had similar power. The reason to that was because Naruto don't hit hard enough on mystery and standard and that is exactly why I don't want him event though I can get afford him right now.

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It would depend on your power/stacking.

When you are only facing ppl with one maxed position (or no maxed positions) and you yourself have a strong p1 ninja, then 6p naruto is extremely effective b/c he will crit almost all the time against the backline ninjas, and fully heal every round. This effect is multiplied when you are in 2v2 or 3v3 matches.

However, ronin naruto is looking to be extremely strong as well. I've seen a 220k ronin naruto beat a 280k edo hiruzen team in less than 4 rounds. So power is not necessarily required. A 6p team would probably have beaten the hiruzen too, but it would've taken 5+ rounds. I've also tested a 220k 6p team against a 230k ronin naruto team, and the ronin beat 6p in 1 round.

For fully-maxed players with 2 or more maxed positions (usually the 400k+ ppl), 6p does very little dmg. Ronin naruto on the other hand will scale and keep scaling his attack, So ronin will likely outperform 6p. I believe 6p will still be preferred in 3V3 matches like GNW though b/c of his large AOE mystery that goes every round.

Ofc, ronin's weakness is being cc'd by ninjas like edo itachi, but that can be countered as well with proper support (e.g. edo itachi mirror, katsuyu's breakthrough, kurenai shield, etc).

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On 2019-06-19 16:30:00Show this Author Only
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  • Nightowlgamer On 2019-06-19 00:23:17
  • It would depend on your power/stacking.

    When you are only facing ppl with one maxed position (or no maxed positions) and you yourself have a strong p1 ninja, then 6p naruto is extremely effective b/c he will crit almost all the time against the backline ninjas, and fully heal every round. This effect is multiplied when you are in 2v2 or 3v3 matches.

    However, ronin naruto is looking to be extremely strong as well. I've seen a 220k ronin naruto beat a 280k edo hiruzen team in less than 4 rounds. So power is not necessarily required. A 6p team would probably have beaten the hiruzen too, but it would've taken 5+ rounds. I've also tested a 220k 6p team against a 230k ronin naruto team, and the ronin beat 6p in 1 round.

    For fully-maxed players with 2 or more maxed positions (usually the 400k+ ppl), 6p does very little dmg. Ronin naruto on the other hand will scale and keep scaling his attack, So ronin will likely outperform 6p. I believe 6p will still be preferred in 3V3 matches like GNW though b/c of his large AOE mystery that goes every round.

    Ofc, ronin's weakness is being cc'd by ninjas like edo itachi, but that can be countered as well with proper support (e.g. edo itachi mirror, katsuyu's breakthrough, kurenai shield, etc).

As i said, exactly like kushimaru or lee, a very cheap water main team is able to make useless almost any team you can make with him up to 20% power stronger unless that 20% is all in move 1.


Example in his very specific case?


konan taisho gakido fulls sb with chase trial x

Itachi full sb x x

X x water main


Talents: 42323, summon: kirin


10k coupons spent for konan (unless you got her for free) and you beat a 90k ingots ninja maybe supported by two 20k coupons ninjas too even if you don't own initiative.


That's why he is in no way worth 90k ingots.





This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-06-19 16:56:25.
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-06-19 16:30:00
  • As i said, exactly like kushimaru or lee, a very cheap water main team is able to make useless almost any team you can make with him up to 20% power stronger unless that 20% is all in move 1.


    Example in his very specific case?


    konan taisho gakido fulls sb with chase trial x

    Itachi full sb x x

    X x water main


    Talents: 42323, summon: kirin


    10k coupons spent for konan (unless you got her for free) and you beat a 90k ingots ninja maybe supported by two 20k coupons ninjas too even if you don't own initiative.


    That's why he is in no way worth 90k ingots.


Your water team doesn't have any mirror. Itachi don't have mirror he reflect every debuff directed toward him (it's better than immunity, kushina can't cc him) and only toward him. You can't cc a ronin because if he has a mirror it will reflect back to you. You can increase the CD of ronin but it's almost useless because the most scariest thing about him is his standard not his mystery. Sorry but I can't see a way your team can defeat ronin, edo itachi and light main. But I must admit, he is not worth 90k.




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On 2019-06-20 18:20:25Show this Author Only
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  • momohiu On 2019-06-20 00:40:07
  • Your water team doesn't have any mirror. Itachi don't have mirror he reflect every debuff directed toward him (it's better than immunity, kushina can't cc him) and only toward him. You can't cc a ronin because if he has a mirror it will reflect back to you. You can increase the CD of ronin but it's almost useless because the most scariest thing about him is his standard not his mystery. Sorry but I can't see a way your team can defeat ronin, edo itachi and light main. But I must admit, he is not worth 90k.

In the chase first come itachi chase ignition then neurotoxin.

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The team obviously is meant for the common midnight blade root of warrior warrior intent/anbu tactics lineup with naruto ronin (so even if skewering lands a critical the chaos it would deliver gets nullified by the immunity before is removed so is not reflected back and what gets reflected back is the first debuff of the chase, so ignition).

After round 1 you just wait for itachi to move and apply sleep and then you use again skewering chase on him (eventually healing main if sleep is reflected back on her with gakido or konan misteries).

If we talk about some other kind of lineup wiith naruto ronin, like earth main gnw madara itachi edo as supports you just replace itachi with ningendo and you use shark bomb and adjust the talents but the outcome is the same kind of total nullification of the 130k ingots team with a close to free team.




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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-06-20 18:20:25
  • In the chase first come itachi chase ignition then neurotoxin.

    IMG_20190620_122308


    The team obviously is meant for the common midnight blade root of warrior warrior intent/anbu tactics lineup with naruto ronin (so even if skewering lands a critical the chaos it would deliver gets nullified by the immunity before is removed so is not reflected back and what gets reflected back is the first debuff of the chase, so ignition).

    After round 1 you just wait for itachi to move and apply sleep and then you use again skewering chase on him (eventually healing main if sleep is reflected back on her with gakido or konan misteries).

    If we talk about some other kind of lineup wiith naruto ronin, like earth main gnw madara itachi edo as supports you just replace itachi with ningendo and you use shark bomb and adjust the talents but the outcome is the same kind of total nullification of the 130k ingots team with a close to free team.

Yeah you could defeat ronin like that, only remaining problem will be Katsuyu's mystery.

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On 2019-06-28 05:55:43Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-06-20 18:20:25
  • In the chase first come itachi chase ignition then neurotoxin.

    IMG_20190620_122308


    The team obviously is meant for the common midnight blade root of warrior warrior intent/anbu tactics lineup with naruto ronin (so even if skewering lands a critical the chaos it would deliver gets nullified by the immunity before is removed so is not reflected back and what gets reflected back is the first debuff of the chase, so ignition).

    After round 1 you just wait for itachi to move and apply sleep and then you use again skewering chase on him (eventually healing main if sleep is reflected back on her with gakido or konan misteries).

    If we talk about some other kind of lineup wiith naruto ronin, like earth main gnw madara itachi edo as supports you just replace itachi with ningendo and you use shark bomb and adjust the talents but the outcome is the same kind of total nullification of the 130k ingots team with a close to free team.

lol i don't think you've ever played against ronin naruto.

your entire team basically has to wait until round 2 to do anything... and the thing about ronin naruto is that he can kill your entire backline in round 1.

Then its ronin naruto and 3 supports against just your water main shark bomb.

Good luck beating him.

The only 'f2p' ninjas that *might* counter ronin, is a masked man or Han (or 5kmadara if u wanna spend 20k cpns). but then, the edo itachi on ronin's team would be able to interrupt most things. Plus as mentioned, itachi's mirror will prevent ronin from being cc'd immediately. And if you want for ronin to use his standard then you lost already.

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On 2019-06-28 06:07:14Show this Author Only
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  • Nightowlgamer On 2019-06-28 05:55:43
  • lol i don't think you've ever played against ronin naruto.

    your entire team basically has to wait until round 2 to do anything... and the thing about ronin naruto is that he can kill your entire backline in round 1.

    Then its ronin naruto and 3 supports against just your water main shark bomb.

    Good luck beating him.

    The only 'f2p' ninjas that *might* counter ronin, is a masked man or Han (or 5kmadara if u wanna spend 20k cpns). but then, the edo itachi on ronin's team would be able to interrupt most things. Plus as mentioned, itachi's mirror will prevent ronin from being cc'd immediately. And if you want for ronin to use his standard then you lost already.

Azure fang use her punch mystery that get rid of shield and debuff, Itachi chase Ronin burn him but the debuff is reflected than azure fang chaos Ronin. Edo Itachi's dream is useless since the other team has Taisho Konan who gives chakra and protection. Gakido gives more protection. The only problem will be Light main's katsuyu healing.

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On 2019-06-28 08:29:02Show this Author Only
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  • momohiu On 2019-06-28 06:07:14
  • Azure fang use her punch mystery that get rid of shield and debuff, Itachi chase Ronin burn him but the debuff is reflected than azure fang chaos Ronin. Edo Itachi's dream is useless since the other team has Taisho Konan who gives chakra and protection. Gakido gives more protection. The only problem will be Light main's katsuyu healing.

Its not a bad idea, but there's absolutely no way you're going to be able to kill ronin in round 1 like that. You'll cc him true, and lets assume that lightning main doesnt' have katsuyu (since the strategy falls apart if katsuyu is there). Round 2, ronin will be cleared of debuffs b/c chaos only lasts 1 round, so he'll be able to use his mystery. And if the player is smart, he'd use edo itachi on gakido (which can't be healed until round 2 b/c konan can't mystery in round 1), and then use lightning main's acupuncture mystery on konan round 2. That's assuming he can't do it round 1 either if he goes with teh chakra-generator standard attack. Once that happens? you're left with a ronin naruto in round 2 that will have 3 standard attacks (if he has bee) + his mystery and all the combos. All you'd do is delay your death by 1 round.

Remember this is still assuming no katsuyu, with katsuyu you die round 1.

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