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On 2019-06-11 15:59:47Show All Posts
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They are the opposite kind of ninjas.

Naruto six paths is the ninja with an op personal set but low damage so may be placed in any position and works fine both as a controlling move 1 that manages the gameplay for many rounds leading you to a potential late win main or as an annoying move 2/3 to deal with that let your move 1 do what it wants.

Naruto ronin is like kushimaru or lee. He works exclusively as move 1 and strictly requires to have 3 full dedicate buffers/supporters.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-06-11 16:01:09.
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On 2019-06-19 16:30:00Show All Posts
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  • Nightowlgamer On 2019-06-19 00:23:17
  • It would depend on your power/stacking.

    When you are only facing ppl with one maxed position (or no maxed positions) and you yourself have a strong p1 ninja, then 6p naruto is extremely effective b/c he will crit almost all the time against the backline ninjas, and fully heal every round. This effect is multiplied when you are in 2v2 or 3v3 matches.

    However, ronin naruto is looking to be extremely strong as well. I've seen a 220k ronin naruto beat a 280k edo hiruzen team in less than 4 rounds. So power is not necessarily required. A 6p team would probably have beaten the hiruzen too, but it would've taken 5+ rounds. I've also tested a 220k 6p team against a 230k ronin naruto team, and the ronin beat 6p in 1 round.

    For fully-maxed players with 2 or more maxed positions (usually the 400k+ ppl), 6p does very little dmg. Ronin naruto on the other hand will scale and keep scaling his attack, So ronin will likely outperform 6p. I believe 6p will still be preferred in 3V3 matches like GNW though b/c of his large AOE mystery that goes every round.

    Ofc, ronin's weakness is being cc'd by ninjas like edo itachi, but that can be countered as well with proper support (e.g. edo itachi mirror, katsuyu's breakthrough, kurenai shield, etc).

As i said, exactly like kushimaru or lee, a very cheap water main team is able to make useless almost any team you can make with him up to 20% power stronger unless that 20% is all in move 1.


Example in his very specific case?


konan taisho gakido fulls sb with chase trial x

Itachi full sb x x

X x water main


Talents: 42323, summon: kirin


10k coupons spent for konan (unless you got her for free) and you beat a 90k ingots ninja maybe supported by two 20k coupons ninjas too even if you don't own initiative.


That's why he is in no way worth 90k ingots.





This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-06-19 16:56:25.
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On 2019-06-20 18:20:25Show All Posts
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  • momohiu On 2019-06-20 00:40:07
  • Your water team doesn't have any mirror. Itachi don't have mirror he reflect every debuff directed toward him (it's better than immunity, kushina can't cc him) and only toward him. You can't cc a ronin because if he has a mirror it will reflect back to you. You can increase the CD of ronin but it's almost useless because the most scariest thing about him is his standard not his mystery. Sorry but I can't see a way your team can defeat ronin, edo itachi and light main. But I must admit, he is not worth 90k.

In the chase first come itachi chase ignition then neurotoxin.

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The team obviously is meant for the common midnight blade root of warrior warrior intent/anbu tactics lineup with naruto ronin (so even if skewering lands a critical the chaos it would deliver gets nullified by the immunity before is removed so is not reflected back and what gets reflected back is the first debuff of the chase, so ignition).

After round 1 you just wait for itachi to move and apply sleep and then you use again skewering chase on him (eventually healing main if sleep is reflected back on her with gakido or konan misteries).

If we talk about some other kind of lineup wiith naruto ronin, like earth main gnw madara itachi edo as supports you just replace itachi with ningendo and you use shark bomb and adjust the talents but the outcome is the same kind of total nullification of the 130k ingots team with a close to free team.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-06-20 18:47:10.
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