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On 2019-04-09 00:39:55Show this Author Only
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  • Haotiq On 2019-04-09 00:19:16
  • Well i understand him. He likes 3rd just as i like Itachi which is also my favorite character. We took it too far anyways.


    Well, Minato vs Raikage. Minato is named Yellow Flash for a reason, he was able to kill 1000 shinobi alone and as we could see in the anime he could easily surpass 4th in speed at a certain moment. Somehow he managed to even get the KM while dead.In my opinion in normal state Raikage may be able to get Minato but in Edo Tensei state i dont think he stands a chance.

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Even Zetsu who knew everyone's level of power and abilities all the way up to Kaguya stated Itachi is invincible.






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On 2019-04-09 01:40:35Show this Author Only
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On 2019-04-09 03:24:17Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2019-04-08 21:44:49
  • Lol, Itachi can beat anyone in this anime, what are you talking about?

    1. AY has to get close to hit Itachi, Itachi is in Susanoo, Amaterasu on Susanoo, gets burned. Btw he can't damage the Susanoo too much, most likely he can only crack it. Also, the whole battlefield could have Amaterasu on it.

    2. Gets grabbed then hit once with Totsuka Blade.

    3. Gets hit by Tsukuyomi. (honestly the sharingan is already too much for him)

    4. Runs into Totsuka Blade with his finger. (lol)

    5. Itachi could be the fastest character in the series but never had to move too much to show it. How do you know he's not the fastest, since it's said he's the only character who could sit down and finish every fight? He never had to get serious.

    6. Even without the Susanoo the only thing every other characters would hit is his crow clones.

    7. Raikage could be hitting himself without even knowing it all along, thinking he's hitting Itachi.

    Totsuka Blade is the strongest weapon in all of Naruto, anyone hit by it once gets stuck forever in another dimension. It is what is called a "hax" skill. The Sharingan is also a hax ability, and these hax abilities are the only thing Naruto Characters have that can give them a chance vs DBZ characters for example, and trust me, Goku could obliterate AY in less than a second.

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On 2019-04-09 23:48:54Show this Author Only
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I would say this about itachi since he's my favorite ninja along with hashirama....his weakness is stamina basically, if he doesnt finish a fight quickly, then most likely he'll lose.

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On 2019-04-09 23:56:15Show this Author Only
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Btw it states here that anyone and anything it pierces will be trapped in another realm for eternity. So he can trap objects too if he wants based on this.

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well itachi is the strongest cuz kis*to said in an interview he was too strong ,so he had to kill him off


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On 2019-04-10 03:19:11Show this Author Only
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Edo tensei ninja are not weaker than when they were alive. When Madara came from the death he was stronger than when he was alive because Kabuto enhanced the jutsu and the body of Madara. When Tobirama came back, he said that this time Orochimaru brought him back with his full power unlike the time Hiruzen defeated both the first and the second Hokage alone. Also, Minato is not fast, he teleports. It's completely different. Minato's reaction time is not as fast as Ay or any fast ninja, his body doesn't move so fast either.

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On 2019-04-10 03:35:24Show this Author Only
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  • momohiu On 2019-04-10 03:19:11
  • Edo tensei ninja are not weaker than when they were alive. When Madara came from the death he was stronger than when he was alive because Kabuto enhanced the jutsu and the body of Madara. When Tobirama came back, he said that this time Orochimaru brought him back with his full power unlike the time Hiruzen defeated both the first and the second Hokage alone. Also, Minato is not fast, he teleports. It's completely different. Minato's reaction time is not as fast as Ay or any fast ninja, his body doesn't move so fast either.

Yep, without prep and kunais in the right spots he is fodder to Itachi and the other strong characters.




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On 2019-04-10 05:59:59Show this Author Only
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  • momohiu On 2019-04-10 03:19:11
  • Edo tensei ninja are not weaker than when they were alive. When Madara came from the death he was stronger than when he was alive because Kabuto enhanced the jutsu and the body of Madara. When Tobirama came back, he said that this time Orochimaru brought him back with his full power unlike the time Hiruzen defeated both the first and the second Hokage alone. Also, Minato is not fast, he teleports. It's completely different. Minato's reaction time is not as fast as Ay or any fast ninja, his body doesn't move so fast either.

Actually Edo Tensei ninjas are weaken than when they were alive. It`s true that they have an immortal body, well almost immortal, (Minato`s hands didn`t recovered when he got hit by the Truth Seeking Orb) and unlimited chakra but they are still weaker. Tobiramas didnt said he was at full power, he said that he was at nearly full power and we could see that when he created only 2 clones. I know he was holding the barrier but that moment showed us why they are weaker. Even if they have unlimited chakra their chakra tank is limited and they can`t use their jutsus at full power. Madara body was enhanced with Hashirama`s cells so he can awaken the rinnegan but even so he still was weaker. We can see that when Hashirama used Sage Art Gracious Deity Gates to block Madara`s movements, that time Madara was unable to move but when he came back to life he destroyed the jutsu in a second and while reviving he even said `Finally, i`ll be able to fight for real`.


Now Minato. He is fast lol. He doesn`t necessary needs preps to fight and we can clearly see that when he fought Masked Man. Yes, when he was fighting with 4th he used his kunais to combat his speed and he succeded.

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On 2019-04-10 06:19:35Show this Author Only
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  • Haotiq On 2019-04-10 05:59:59
  • Actually Edo Tensei ninjas are weaken than when they were alive. It`s true that they have an immortal body, well almost immortal, (Minato`s hands didn`t recovered when he got hit by the Truth Seeking Orb) and unlimited chakra but they are still weaker. Tobiramas didnt said he was at full power, he said that he was at nearly full power and we could see that when he created only 2 clones. I know he was holding the barrier but that moment showed us why they are weaker. Even if they have unlimited chakra their chakra tank is limited and they can`t use their jutsus at full power. Madara body was enhanced with Hashirama`s cells so he can awaken the rinnegan but even so he still was weaker. We can see that when Hashirama used Sage Art Gracious Deity Gates to block Madara`s movements, that time Madara was unable to move but when he came back to life he destroyed the jutsu in a second and while reviving he even said `Finally, i`ll be able to fight for real`.


    Now Minato. He is fast lol. He doesn`t necessary needs preps to fight and we can clearly see that when he fought Masked Man. Yes, when he was fighting with 4th he used his kunais to combat his speed and he succeded.

Well, depends what Minato you're talking about. In Kurama form he was faster obviously but the normal version relied too much on Kunais for "speed".

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On 2019-04-10 06:26:01Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2019-04-10 06:19:35
  • Well, depends what Minato you're talking about. In Kurama form he was faster obviously but the normal version relied too much on Kunais for "speed".

Im talking about the normal form, when he was alive. And yes he was relying on kunais because the kunais had his formula on them. He could aswell get a *, put the formula on it, trow it and teleport. Also as 3rd raikage was relying on his hand to do his most powerful jutsu so was Minato and his kunais.

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On 2019-04-10 06:47:11Show this Author Only
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  • Haotiq On 2019-04-10 06:26:01
  • Im talking about the normal form, when he was alive. And yes he was relying on kunais because the kunais had his formula on them. He could aswell get a *, put the formula on it, trow it and teleport. Also as 3rd raikage was relying on his hand to do his most powerful jutsu so was Minato and his kunais.

Yeah, I know. But for the Raikage at least it was his own body. Fact is Minato relies on external objects for his speed. At least, there's probably always a kunai with his formula lying around somewhere so he can get out of almost any situation.

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On 2019-04-10 07:24:09Show this Author Only
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  • Haotiq On 2019-04-10 05:59:59
  • Actually Edo Tensei ninjas are weaken than when they were alive. It`s true that they have an immortal body, well almost immortal, (Minato`s hands didn`t recovered when he got hit by the Truth Seeking Orb) and unlimited chakra but they are still weaker. Tobiramas didnt said he was at full power, he said that he was at nearly full power and we could see that when he created only 2 clones. I know he was holding the barrier but that moment showed us why they are weaker. Even if they have unlimited chakra their chakra tank is limited and they can`t use their jutsus at full power. Madara body was enhanced with Hashirama`s cells so he can awaken the rinnegan but even so he still was weaker. We can see that when Hashirama used Sage Art Gracious Deity Gates to block Madara`s movements, that time Madara was unable to move but when he came back to life he destroyed the jutsu in a second and while reviving he even said `Finally, i`ll be able to fight for real`.


    Now Minato. He is fast lol. He doesn`t necessary needs preps to fight and we can clearly see that when he fought Masked Man. Yes, when he was fighting with 4th he used his kunais to combat his speed and he succeded.

I will leave this here for the edo tensei debate.

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Also, I insist there is a difference between being fast and being able to teleport. Ay moves faster than a kunai thrown by Minato.

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On 2019-04-10 07:42:27Show this Author Only
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  • momohiu On 2019-04-10 07:24:09
  • I will leave this here for the edo tensei debate.

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    Also, I insist there is a difference between being fast and being able to teleport. Ay moves faster than a kunai thrown by Minato.

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'Close' not 'Full power'. There`s a difference as we can see in anime, i won`t repeat myself with when and how, i said it earlier.


As for the Minato vs Ay, if Naruto in first stage of KM could hit him he`s not that fast as you want him to be.

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On 2019-04-10 13:46:20Show this Author Only
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Man, this thread is going wild. XD

Let me make it simple, itachi won against perfect sage mode kabuto while protecting EMS sasuke in between. Also, I believe itachi has put someone under genjutsu without them looking at him, by using his finger if I remember it correctly, and it was either naruto or kakashi I don't really remember.

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On 2019-04-10 22:58:05Show this Author Only
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  • Steve Carry On 2019-04-10 13:46:20
  • Man, this thread is going wild. XD

    Let me make it simple, itachi won against perfect sage mode kabuto while protecting EMS sasuke in between. Also, I believe itachi has put someone under genjutsu without them looking at him, by using his finger if I remember it correctly, and it was either naruto or kakashi I don't really remember.

you forgot to mention the time where sage kabuto just cut itachi in half outta frustration...

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On 2019-04-10 23:04:16Show this Author Only
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It's tricky to say who woulda won, on one side you have itachi who is one of the most powerful ninja in the series on Naruto...with basically is only weakness being stamina, and the other side you have 3rd raikage, who basically can take a hit from a rasenshuriken from a KCM naruto and still get up like it was nothing, remember when madara absorbed his rasenshuriken then stated "too much energy" meaning he didnt absorb all of it, for raikage to take that hit, means he's hella tanky, and i think i seen someone that 3rd raikage is faster than 4th raikage, remember this is a guy who fought thousands of ninjas in one night i think, as stated in the manga i believe, so it would be a battle either of endurance or wits, it would be hard to tell who woulda won, solely based on what they can do or what they've achieved, we know more about itachi than 3rd raikage.

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On 2019-04-10 23:05:19Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2019-04-10 22:58:05
  • you forgot to mention the time where sage kabuto just cut itachi in half outta frustration...

You forgot to mention Itachi could one shot him at any time with Totsuka Blade which cannot be dodged since it's some form of spirtual sake, and his speed is ranked 5/5 in the databooks, higher than Sasuke/Kakashi/Lee, who only have 4.5. Totsuka Blade can materialize just as fast as the Susanoo, since it's part of it. And Itachi did that while Kirin which is lightning was trying to reach him.

Also he didn't mean to kill him, because then they would be stuck with Edo Tensei units running around.

Kabuto is literal * compared to Itachi. He'd just destroy him in a second like he did with Orochimaru every time he met him. Orochimaru who supposedly has more tricks up his sleeve.

When he cut him I believe Izanami was already taking place, and Itachi knew nothing would happen to him if he got hurt, since he was Edo. He wanted to fini* quick so Sasuke wouldn't get hurt.




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On 2019-04-10 23:13:36Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2019-04-10 23:05:19
  • You forgot to mention Itachi could one shot him at any time with Totsuka Blade which cannot be dodged since it's some form of spirtual sake, and his speed is ranked 5/5 in the databooks, higher than Sasuke/Kakashi/Lee, who only have 4.5. Totsuka Blade can materialize just as fast as the Susanoo, since it's part of it. And Itachi did that while Kirin which is lightning was trying to reach him.

    Also he didn't mean to kill him, because then they would be stuck with Edo Tensei units running around.

    Kabuto is literal * compared to Itachi. He'd just destroy him in a second like he did with Orochimaru every time he met him. Orochimaru who supposedly has more tricks up his sleeve.

    When he cut him I believe Izanami was already taking place, and Itachi knew nothing would happen to him if he got hurt, since he was Edo. He wanted to fini* quick so Sasuke wouldn't get hurt.

ofc itachi strongest weapon imo is his wits...he's one of the if not the best *yzer in a battlefield, and ofc the battle experience he carries, is a plus, kabuto barely had that compared to him, so itachi knew how to fight and how to approach hard situations, similar to kaguya vs naruto and sasuke, she had the power, but lacked the experience to fight properly.

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