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[ PVP ] 6p is becoming a problem, let's help solve it

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On 2019-01-31 02:22:00Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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The excessive use of naruto 6p is clear throughout every server, and throughout the forums aswell. Hence why it is important to share ways of countering them. A team I've been using recently seems to be doing the trick both in arena and outside of arena when it comes to dealing with 6p naruto. This team can be adjusted to suit the ninja limitation you may posess.

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This being a more "p2w" version (the team I personally use)^

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And this is a version u c*e if you do not own edo itachi. I also realise that certain individuals might not have shisui. In that case you can replace shisui with iruka for a possible interrupt, or gnw ino for the heal and buff if you're looking for more of a blitz/durable team.


This is just my opinion on teams that for me aid in countering 6p. Feel free to post your teams that help you counter him aswell.

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On 2019-01-31 02:41:08Show this Author Only
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Of course, if you start countering 6path Naruto, then first Position Hiruzen comes back and slaughters the 6path-Counter team.

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On 2019-01-31 02:47:02Show this Author Only
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  • OG-Bobby On 2019-01-31 02:41:08
  • Of course, if you start countering 6path Naruto, then first Position Hiruzen comes back and slaughters the 6path-Counter team.

Well I mean this also counters edo hiru, atleast the edo itachi version does

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On 2019-01-31 04:12:59Show this Author Only
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You c*so substitute Kirin for the kyoshoku deer if you don't have kirin. With this team you can pretty much control SOSP's support ninjas, since you get kurenai's chase off with minato mystery, and get enough chakra to use shisui in the same round. The two dodge ninjas kinda mess up his self-healing and mystery cooldown. Plus kurenai's mirror reflects naruto's immobile reducing the chance of wind main getting controlled (depending on the support ninja the opponent is running). It's not the perfect counter, and the battle will still take awhile, but for me personally it has helped me actually win some fights against SOSP in and outside of arena. If you don't have Jonin minato and/or shisui, I'm not really sure who you could use as a replacement that is considered "f2p". If you have kurama naruto though, I'm sure he could work as well just need to adjust combo a bit. Could also use this team with other mains but I like the chakra passive on wind main plus reset x3

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On 2019-01-31 05:40:35Show this Author Only
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The biggest problem with this ninja is when he kills your backline round 2. Decently stacked sosp with similar power will be able to do that, unless you have like 250k+ bp... 4 standards + mystery (or 2 mysteries in some cases) are enough to kill non stacked ninjas.


I don't have any issues with Naruto in arena. Even Shisui + Iruka + Anbu Itachi + Fire Main is enough to beat most sosp teams. (the ones without Edo Itachi/Madara 5k) Problems arise outside arena, where naruto can kill your backline round 2.


I would also like suggest a change to FM teams posted here - ninjutsu reducing passive instead of clone should work better in theory.

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On 2019-01-31 05:41:44Show this Author Only
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solution: get him XD

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On 2019-01-31 05:53:25Show this Author Only
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  • żółw On 2019-01-31 05:40:35
  • The biggest problem with this ninja is when he kills your backline round 2. Decently stacked sosp with similar power will be able to do that, unless you have like 250k+ bp... 4 standards + mystery (or 2 mysteries in some cases) are enough to kill non stacked ninjas.


    I don't have any issues with Naruto in arena. Even Shisui + Iruka + Anbu Itachi + Fire Main is enough to beat most sosp teams. (the ones without Edo Itachi/Madara 5k) Problems arise outside arena, where naruto can kill your backline round 2.


    I would also like suggest a change to FM teams posted here - ninjutsu reducing passive instead of clone should work better in theory.

That's why shikamaru is there, for that extra 100%def/res in order to prevent the death of my back row. Also the first team I posted (with edo itachi) was able to beat someone using naruto 6p with around 8k more power than I currently have. And about the nin reducing passive, as helpful as it may be, I prefer the opportunity to reduce my mystery without having to kill a unit thanks to the clone, but I do see the usefulness of the passive you're talking about.

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On 2019-01-31 06:18:37Show this Author Only
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  • litty titty On 2019-01-31 05:53:25
  • That's why shikamaru is there, for that extra 100%def/res in order to prevent the death of my back row. Also the first team I posted (with edo itachi) was able to beat someone using naruto 6p with around 8k more power than I currently have. And about the nin reducing passive, as helpful as it may be, I prefer the opportunity to reduce my mystery without having to kill a unit thanks to the clone, but I do see the usefulness of the passive you're talking about.

It's good in theory, but even 100% def/res won't matter much when you have crit/injury difference of 10k+ between opponents' Narutos and your p2-p4... At least that's the case in my cluster, where a lot of people passed 20k crit/injury mark on p1 and their p2-p4 is below 10k. Unless Naruto doesn't crit, which is unlikely, my p2-p4 will die round 2 after Naruto's second standard.

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On 2019-01-31 06:37:40Show this Author Only
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  • żółw On 2019-01-31 06:18:37
  • It's good in theory, but even 100% def/res won't matter much when you have crit/injury difference of 10k+ between opponents' Narutos and your p2-p4... At least that's the case in my cluster, where a lot of people passed 20k crit/injury mark on p1 and their p2-p4 is below 10k. Unless Naruto doesn't crit, which is unlikely, my p2-p4 will die round 2 after Naruto's second standard.

That is one of the main reasons why I dont go all out focusing on stacking my pos 1, but instead i ensure that my other positions stand a fighting chance, especially my pos 2. But yeah I dont expect my team to go beating 6p naruto's with 40k more power than me, but in an equal power fight, this team stands out from the others I've used

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On 2019-01-31 07:12:17Show this Author Only
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What i see there (i hope you won't feel dejected about it) is a team permanently under chaos by a decently stacked shark bomb team that dies due to the poison spreaded by koh.





This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-01-31 07:21:36.
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On 2019-01-31 08:00:14Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-01-31 07:12:17
  • What i see there (i hope you won't feel dejected about it) is a team permanently under chaos by a decently stacked shark bomb team that dies due to the poison spreaded by koh.


Well I wasn't exactly talking about shark bomb now was I. Also just use edo itachi round 1 to interrupt her. Or have init over her

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On 2019-01-31 10:12:59Show this Author Only
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  • OGMUDBONE On 2019-01-31 04:12:59
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    You c*so substitute Kirin for the kyoshoku deer if you don't have kirin. With this team you can pretty much control SOSP's support ninjas, since you get kurenai's chase off with minato mystery, and get enough chakra to use shisui in the same round. The two dodge ninjas kinda mess up his self-healing and mystery cooldown. Plus kurenai's mirror reflects naruto's immobile reducing the chance of wind main getting controlled (depending on the support ninja the opponent is running). It's not the perfect counter, and the battle will still take awhile, but for me personally it has helped me actually win some fights against SOSP in and outside of arena. If you don't have Jonin minato and/or shisui, I'm not really sure who you could use as a replacement that is considered "f2p". If you have kurama naruto though, I'm sure he could work as well just need to adjust combo a bit. Could also use this team with other mains but I like the chakra passive on wind main plus reset x3

me and my group used that team but with hokage minato which he works for 6path as well
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On 2019-01-31 10:13:38Show this Author Only
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  • OGMUDBONE On 2019-01-31 04:12:59
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    You c*so substitute Kirin for the kyoshoku deer if you don't have kirin. With this team you can pretty much control SOSP's support ninjas, since you get kurenai's chase off with minato mystery, and get enough chakra to use shisui in the same round. The two dodge ninjas kinda mess up his self-healing and mystery cooldown. Plus kurenai's mirror reflects naruto's immobile reducing the chance of wind main getting controlled (depending on the support ninja the opponent is running). It's not the perfect counter, and the battle will still take awhile, but for me personally it has helped me actually win some fights against SOSP in and outside of arena. If you don't have Jonin minato and/or shisui, I'm not really sure who you could use as a replacement that is considered "f2p". If you have kurama naruto though, I'm sure he could work as well just need to adjust combo a bit. Could also use this team with other mains but I like the chakra passive on wind main plus reset x3

me and my group mate used that team but with hokage minato which he works for 6path as well
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On 2019-01-31 10:35:17Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-01-31 07:12:17
  • What i see there (i hope you won't feel dejected about it) is a team permanently under chaos by a decently stacked shark bomb team that dies due to the poison spreaded by koh.


Ya, I'm very caution about the shark teams too, but in reality I'm staying away from the waters.

I personally don't think those shark will drown so easily, drunk maybe~

As edo itachi put it, there is no such thing as an invincible meta, each one has strength and weakness.

Then the real question would be, what interest you to go after certain targets if each one has its strength and weakness.

becoz the worst enemy would be a stone statue that does not garner any interest.

Life just has to be made interesting even if some were despise by others,

And yet they are situational-ly valuable.

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On 2019-01-31 11:20:40Show this Author Only
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i thnk the root of the problem of this game is the way of Critical and Injury stats work, they should CAP the rate and damage when critical triggers, or change the formula. Make critical LESS rewarding so people dont stack on position 1, make the game more balance like in arena.

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On 2019-01-31 14:25:38Show this Author Only
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Well no team is a clear cut counter and depends on your power but some ideas:

For extreme f2p:Yamato skill broken increases damage to Jins/Summons combine him with firemain(as move 1) and maybe masked man...some kind of 9 tails team with FM as the first move should help

or

just shark bomb.



For p2w:have high ini+5k more critand injury with barrier+8-10% elemental damage +edo hiruzen should do the job or Shark bomb, madara 5kage ,kakashi susanoo,edo hashi.

Kushina,hokage minato,shisui team works too if you have equally strong support.



But it is just easy to run naruto(in some cases cheaper) than to counter him.If you can't beat them, join them at this point with him.




This post was last edited by JustSaying on 2019-01-31 14:33:16.
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On 2019-01-31 14:28:50Show this Author Only
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  • litty titty On 2019-01-31 02:47:02
  • Well I mean this also counters edo hiru, atleast the edo itachi version does

not flaming just curious how does your 1st team counter him exactly?


The naruto i mean not edo 3rd hokage





This post was last edited by dmcmichael93@gm on 2019-01-31 14:29:11.
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On 2019-01-31 16:19:27Show this Author Only
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Here is the counter team :D. You need many ninjas to hit naruto and kill him lol


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On 2019-01-31 16:23:48Show this Author Only
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I generally beat 6 paths team with

KCM Naruto, Minato Jonin, Shisui, Fire Main/Wind Main.

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On 2019-01-31 18:55:28Show this Author Only
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  • TOMB0LOCKD0WN! On 2019-01-31 10:35:17
  • Ya, I'm very caution about the shark teams too, but in reality I'm staying away from the waters.

    I personally don't think those shark will drown so easily, drunk maybe~

    As edo itachi put it, there is no such thing as an invincible meta, each one has strength and weakness.

    Then the real question would be, what interest you to go after certain targets if each one has its strength and weakness.

    becoz the worst enemy would be a stone statue that does not garner any interest.

    Life just has to be made interesting even if some were despise by others,

    And yet they are situational-ly valuable.

But those teams exist, at least in my bracket, overall among competitive f2p.

You can't use the team the OP suggested thinking about countering naruto teams when another almost as common team beats it easily even by not owning initiative or an ultra op move 1 (neurotoxin can't control fail. Itachi standard too and monster strength starts a combo 90% of the times regardless the enemy combo stat).


The teams i talk about are teams like:


Itachi full skillbroken x x

X konan kimono x

X gakido water main.










This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-01-31 19:05:06.
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