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On 2018-12-06 17:57:32Show this Author Only
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When one mod at least bother to answer your questions tread lightly...he is not incharge of operation of oasis and has limited say.lol He said most not all :P If you compare our group shop to china it is not the same so it is expected to have few updates before getting there....we got a new summon so it make sense to add more ways to feed summons.Easiest way to get mood scrolls is , *er up a whale, let him carry you in bonds then get mood scrolls from strange stone shop :V





This post was last edited by JustSaying on 2018-12-06 17:59:35.
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On 2018-12-06 18:30:20Show this Author Only
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Or just buy them for 10cp/each in treasure of the sages. It's not a fortune given how easy it is to obtain coupons nowadays.

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On 2018-12-06 20:18:25Show this Author Only
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  • JustSaying On 2018-12-06 17:57:32
  • When one mod at least bother to answer your questions tread lightly...he is not incharge of operation of oasis and has limited say.lol He said most not all :P If you compare our group shop to china it is not the same so it is expected to have few updates before getting there....we got a new summon so it make sense to add more ways to feed summons.Easiest way to get mood scrolls is , *er up a whale, let him carry you in bonds then get mood scrolls from strange stone shop :V


Tobei replied to my reply and i deliberately talked about only group shop and monthly event.

His reply was that was not possible for oasis to modify most of them since grocery store opened.

After two days a modification of group shop happens, so was evidently possible.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-12-06 20:19:00.
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On 2018-12-06 20:44:30Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-12-06 20:18:25
  • Tobei replied to my reply and i deliberately talked about only group shop and monthly event.

    His reply was that was not possible for oasis to modify most of them since grocery store opened.

    After two days a modification of group shop happens, so was evidently possible.

My reply was focusing on this

"Are you guys aware that feature exists in the game and is wholly useless and outdated or not? Sometimes i wonder if you actually think only hot topics events exist."


Please, it was in reference to Kakashi Boy's fragments.

Group Summon packs are something that frankly was there long before anything in 5.0.

So it was quite awkward for Tencent to let us have it now than before.


Also, "Most of those additional sections"

Good thing that references most, and not all


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On 2018-12-06 20:54:22Show this Author Only
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  • Tobei On 2018-12-06 20:44:30
  • My reply was focusing on this

    "Are you guys aware that feature exists in the game and is wholly useless and outdated or not? Sometimes i wonder if you actually think only hot topics events exist."


    Please, it was in reference to Kakashi Boy's fragments.

    Group Summon packs are something that frankly was there long before anything in 5.0.

    So it was quite awkward for Tencent to let us have it now than before.


    Also, "Most of those additional sections"

    Good thing that references most, and not all


    1526843141676

Adding kakashi shonen in the place of konan or Jigokudo, that are redeemable at a lower price than in group shop in ninja collection, was, imho, the best way to solve the issue without unlocking the scroll with him in.

Putting him in great plates was a bad move because compelled you in using coupons to get something that was supposed to be free (was not sure at all that with the 140 free rolls you managed to recruit him) while, at the same time, removed some other potential good things you could gain from it. The result was that one event the community really loved became only 'decent'.

It's the same exact thing that happened with shinobi feast. You removed the sure 100 coupons gained on the first roll and from being the best event for recharging for low cashers became a relatively bad recharging event for whales only.


That said, while may be true monthly event can't be changed I'm pretty sure the pack in the shop that grants monthly points for the event may be easy modified by oasis for the secondary rewards. I talk about them because literally none has ever bought one of those packs, if not blatantly by mistake, since 1.0 onwards.

Changing it to grant 10 mood scrolls + 2 fragments of kakashi shonen for 1 coupon, adding a limitation to max 40 packs purchasable in lifetime would have solved both the issue of the missing ninja and of the broken promise of the group wheel.

Why was not done something like this?

I wait your reply.






This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-12-06 21:09:40.
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On 2018-12-06 21:07:40Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-12-06 20:54:22
  • Adding kakashi shonen in the place of konan or Jigokudo, that are redeemable at a lower price than in group shop in ninja collection, was, imho, the best way to solve the issue without unlocking the scroll with him in.

    Putting him in great plates was a bad move because compelled you in using coupons to get something that was supposed to be free (was not sure at all that with the 140 free rolls you managed to recruit him) while, at the same time, removed some other potential good things you could gain from it. The result was that one event the community really loved became only 'decent'.

    It's the same exact thing that happened with shinobi feast. You removed the sure 100 coupons gained on the first roll and from being the best event for recharging for low cashers became a relatively bad recharging event for whales only.


    That said, while may be true monthly event can't be changed I'm pretty sure the pack in the shop that grants monthly points for the event may be easy modified by oasis for the secondary rewards. I talk about them because literally none has ever bought one of those packs, if not blatantly by mistake, since 1.0 onwards.

    Changing it to grant 10 mood scrolls + 2 fragments of kakashi shonen for 1 coupon, adding a limitation to max 40 packs purchasable in lifetime would have solved both the issue of the missing ninja and of the broken promise of the group wheel.

    Why was not done something like this?

    I wait your reply.



funny thing is, we the community give u solutions to ur problems, when you completely just shut us down in the game, through events most of the times, again our feedback from the majority (we community ofc) is never touched or event being reported, as tobei reported to us the heavy spenders feedback, kinda shame really.



TLDR we provide solutions, Oasis never cares for them.

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On 2018-12-06 21:48:15Show this Author Only
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The problem is they just release what is there by ticking a box or adding a .swf file, they don't mess with coding.Those things were already there; so they just uploaded them.He already said they asked tencent to change but they said no so....a lot of unmerged + new servers asking him I guess...can thank the youtube hype squad for minato bond is the lord thing :V


Ya, I know I hate * kakashi too..we just have to wait until his scroll release.Hey, we still get something out of that event compared to what it was when 1st came..frag drop rate is low so less annoying kakashi.lol Best thing you could do is fill out the even feed back saying get rid of that * kakashi....if enough people do it ,we can get rid of him....at least for a month.lol


Them mood scroll changes are upto the oasis management.+tencents...doesn't matter if all mods stand on their heads and said mood scrolls they will only do what they want...sadly.Best thing to do is treasure of sage or group shop now...dango system only gives 25% max so that would hurt f2p more.




This post was last edited by JustSaying on 2018-12-06 22:36:05.
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On 2018-12-06 22:06:15Show this Author Only
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Once again, I'm only gonna reply this time. It's impossible for me to have a civil discourse without having ill merit replies that completely derail the conversation.


@Scarlettblue

Mood Scrolls, as even a 2x in Great Plates has been something I've personally pushed before, hasn't happened.

Next core meeting, I'll do it again because frankly, that's something everyone wants.


And no, I will not answer the additional question you added because that's not for me say nor for people to misconstrue.

I've openly answered quite a lot, truthfully in this thread and already people twisted a few of my words.



@UchihaShay


And here's an example of that.

Let me illustrate,

"And of course, that's why there's a range of team that's suppose to provide different viewpoints of how players view spending on reports received."

I'm only typing in this thread based on my experiences and my outlook of the game."


Each staff members focuses on their respective reports, we address and voice our suggestions, so-on.

You don't have to believe anything I'm saying, but I'll state the core obviously.

I see a lot on Discord and on the Forums, as I agree with some

But because I disagree with others, doesn't mean I'm not listening.


The staff (moderators) are Y'all. If they don't listen to the players, then our jobs are useless.

You're not the only voice of the community, there's a multitude of people who express different opinions, and thus allow us to have a dialog within the staff to best course release content. But that's not all. Oasis gets that and pushes upwards, and from there it's a hierarchy of issues with Tencent, and what their vision for certain updates, etc.


If you still refuse to see it in that aspect, then there's absolutely nothing I can help you with.



Anyway

tenor




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On 2018-12-07 04:42:20Show this Author Only
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  • Tobei On 2018-12-06 22:06:15
  • Once again, I'm only gonna reply this time. It's impossible for me to have a civil discourse without having ill merit replies that completely derail the conversation.


    @Scarlettblue

    Mood Scrolls, as even a 2x in Great Plates has been something I've personally pushed before, hasn't happened.

    Next core meeting, I'll do it again because frankly, that's something everyone wants.


    And no, I will not answer the additional question you added because that's not for me say nor for people to misconstrue.

    I've openly answered quite a lot, truthfully in this thread and already people twisted a few of my words.



    @UchihaShay


    And here's an example of that.

    Let me illustrate,

    "And of course, that's why there's a range of team that's suppose to provide different viewpoints of how players view spending on reports received."

    I'm only typing in this thread based on my experiences and my outlook of the game."


    Each staff members focuses on their respective reports, we address and voice our suggestions, so-on.

    You don't have to believe anything I'm saying, but I'll state the core obviously.

    I see a lot on Discord and on the Forums, as I agree with some

    But because I disagree with others, doesn't mean I'm not listening.


    The staff (moderators) are Y'all. If they don't listen to the players, then our jobs are useless.

    You're not the only voice of the community, there's a multitude of people who express different opinions, and thus allow us to have a dialog within the staff to best course release content. But that's not all. Oasis gets that and pushes upwards, and from there it's a hierarchy of issues with Tencent, and what their vision for certain updates, etc.


    If you still refuse to see it in that aspect, then there's absolutely nothing I can help you with.



    Anyway

    tenor

funny thing is, some mods and even daiske came forth and said one day.... "we are our own version of the game" which to me i take it like, you dont have to answer absolutely nothing to Tencent, you just get their patch and from there it's Oasis making decisions simply putting, what he stand and said was half true, meaning it's was bs from the beginning, you have jurisdiction till a point, when u hit that wall, it falls under tencent to give the yes or no, which till this day, you still are being stonewalled by a company in terms of the chain of command, to which i ask... Why are we are own version, if we still getting orders from tencent? Would be wise to say the whole sha* and stop bs'ing people, i have more respect for those who tell it how it is, than being bs it on, that's my only beef with this whole thing.

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On 2018-12-07 07:44:10Show this Author Only
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  • Tobei On 2018-12-06 22:06:15
  • Once again, I'm only gonna reply this time. It's impossible for me to have a civil discourse without having ill merit replies that completely derail the conversation.


    @Scarlettblue

    Mood Scrolls, as even a 2x in Great Plates has been something I've personally pushed before, hasn't happened.

    Next core meeting, I'll do it again because frankly, that's something everyone wants.


    And no, I will not answer the additional question you added because that's not for me say nor for people to misconstrue.

    I've openly answered quite a lot, truthfully in this thread and already people twisted a few of my words.



    @UchihaShay


    And here's an example of that.

    Let me illustrate,

    "And of course, that's why there's a range of team that's suppose to provide different viewpoints of how players view spending on reports received."

    I'm only typing in this thread based on my experiences and my outlook of the game."


    Each staff members focuses on their respective reports, we address and voice our suggestions, so-on.

    You don't have to believe anything I'm saying, but I'll state the core obviously.

    I see a lot on Discord and on the Forums, as I agree with some

    But because I disagree with others, doesn't mean I'm not listening.


    The staff (moderators) are Y'all. If they don't listen to the players, then our jobs are useless.

    You're not the only voice of the community, there's a multitude of people who express different opinions, and thus allow us to have a dialog within the staff to best course release content. But that's not all. Oasis gets that and pushes upwards, and from there it's a hierarchy of issues with Tencent, and what their vision for certain updates, etc.


    If you still refuse to see it in that aspect, then there's absolutely nothing I can help you with.



    Anyway

    tenor

Thank you.

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On 2018-12-07 08:27:27Show this Author Only
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legit, i can see the mods here are still doing an outstanding job with trolling the community, oh but Discord is all that matters, right? time to close up shop and shutdown the forums then. lul

that's some top tier dodging!




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On 2018-12-07 09:25:00Show this Author Only
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As someone that read this entire thread. I have to say the OP has a good point with the picture.


and UchihaShay is prob the biggest dunce on this thread. Tobei outright says his words will be misconstrued and used you as an example.

You come back by proving his point.


It's like you don't read. And when you do read, you cherry pick and decide what the meaning of words is loooooooooool

I actually feel bad for some of the moderators, the ones that actually give a * about you guys, because some of you don't deserve jack.



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On 2018-12-07 09:34:28Show this Author Only
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  • King Explosion On 2018-12-07 09:25:00
  • As someone that read this entire thread. I have to say the OP has a good point with the picture.


    and UchihaShay is prob the biggest dunce on this thread. Tobei outright says his words will be misconstrued and used you as an example.

    You come back by proving his point.


    It's like you don't read. And when you do read, you cherry pick and decide what the meaning of words is loooooooooool

    I actually feel bad for some of the moderators, the ones that actually give a * about you guys, because some of you don't deserve jack.



that's cute, did u come out of naruto online discord to talk to me? i feel honored, deducting by you "1 post" am i belittling you? take it with a grain of salt, and, am i wrong to say what i said? are people salty cuz they're mistreated from the management team? yes. Now are the forums toxic? Yes, in case you didnt know, im not here to coddle you or throw sand in ur eyes, i say it how it is, i dont bs dude, i never done it, and never will, call me salty, maybe i am, but in the end, you know i only say facts.

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On 2018-12-07 09:46:24Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2018-12-07 09:34:28
  • that's cute, did u come out of naruto online discord to talk to me? i feel honored, deducting by you "1 post" am i belittling you? take it with a grain of salt, and, am i wrong to say what i said? are people salty cuz they're mistreated from the management team? yes. Now are the forums toxic? Yes, in case you didnt know, im not here to coddle you or throw sand in ur eyes, i say it how it is, i dont bs dude, i never done it, and never will, call me salty, maybe i am, but in the end, you know i only say facts.

100% from Discord


But how is that relevant from what I said?

I outright said you don't read. and when you do, you cherry pick and twist meanings.

And since you clearly are so vocal in thinking your thought process is functioning at a high grade.

I bomb Tobei on discord when * happens, discussions/arguments happen but understanding comes out of it.

a Conversation is only good if both parties are willing to listen. But you? You're a special case, no answer would justify itself for you.
"I only speak facts" looooool


Oh and one more thing, I only use the forums for event links, and to enjoy threads like this.

Extremely cute


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On 2018-12-07 09:51:39Show this Author Only
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  • King Explosion On 2018-12-07 09:46:24
  • 100% from Discord


    But how is that relevant from what I said?

    I outright said you don't read. and when you do, you cherry pick and twist meanings.

    And since you clearly are so vocal in thinking your thought process is functioning at a high grade.

    I bomb Tobei on discord when * happens, discussions/arguments happen but understanding comes out of it.

    a Conversation is only good if both parties are willing to listen. But you? You're a special case, no answer would justify itself for you.
    "I only speak facts" looooool


    Oh and one more thing, I only use the forums for event links, and to enjoy threads like this.

    Extremely cute


Please enlighten me...which words have i twisted? Tobei's? All i deduct from what he said was "we still have to answer to tencent on certain aspects of the game" meanwhile dodging some serious questions and legit at that, it's nothing that bad, but if he doesnt know or not allowed to answer, then why not say it, but dont worry i intepreted his dodging as that.

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On 2018-12-07 10:13:39Show this Author Only
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  • King Explosion On 2018-12-07 09:25:00
  • As someone that read this entire thread. I have to say the OP has a good point with the picture.


    and UchihaShay is prob the biggest dunce on this thread. Tobei outright says his words will be misconstrued and used you as an example.

    You come back by proving his point.


    It's like you don't read. And when you do read, you cherry pick and decide what the meaning of words is loooooooooool

    I actually feel bad for some of the moderators, the ones that actually give a * about you guys, because some of you don't deserve jack.



Funny how a guy from Discord drops by the forums to try and instill some more salt into this community.



Wasn't it Discord people primarily who was complaining about how salty the forums are? And now you're only contributing to the problem...



Whether you're really salty or not, going out and insulting Shay like that is bound to create salt nonetheless... coulda just made your point and left...

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On 2018-12-07 12:45:50Show this Author Only
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What is happening?

hGPgUd4

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On 2018-12-07 13:12:54Show this Author Only
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tencent is not forcing you to not put things in group shop or other events.. this is OASIS not tencent... the licensee agreement is over the things used and not over the how are used.. this is standard license agreement across most browser games... pure example look at wartune vs divosaga, and before you start with "but are different bla bla bla" no... again those are standard license agreements, and as long tencent makes money out of it they dont give a f....

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On 2018-12-07 17:20:05Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2018-12-07 13:12:54
  • tencent is not forcing you to not put things in group shop or other events.. this is OASIS not tencent... the licensee agreement is over the things used and not over the how are used.. this is standard license agreement across most browser games... pure example look at wartune vs divosaga, and before you start with "but are different bla bla bla" no... again those are standard license agreements, and as long tencent makes money out of it they dont give a f....

Unless oasis actually is tencent. Many times feels like they are not independent one from the other at all.

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On 2018-12-07 20:52:24Show this Author Only
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Hi guys! Let's not go off-topic. We can give constructive criticism while still being respectful to each other. We do not need to create a negative environment by using inappropriate language or insults. Everyone will have their own opinion.

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