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On 2018-11-09 18:15:24Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Which of these 2 do people think is better?


Reading the forum and watching videos I was put off the idea of buying minato, partly because his low damage output, but now i'm seeing so many people fawn over the new naruto. After reading their skills minato seems better, unless im a complete moron and am missing something

minato

doesnt reduce mystery cd,but mystery hits more opponents, albeit only 1

standard can cause high combo and low float triggering actual chases,

self buffs with his chase,which triggers twice a round

dodges once and ignites and tags enemy when hit

mystery doesnt have a console game clip( personal preference, but i'd rather not watch a clip every round)


Naruto

heals himself

removes shields/buffs


So, whats the deal here? does naruto do much more damage the minato or something?






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On 2018-11-09 19:14:31Show this Author Only
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Not even a close comparison.


Edo Minato has a 3CD on his mystery with average survivability.

While Naruto can consistently deal his mystery while having one of the highest survival kits.


Naruto is the definition of a position 1 ninja while Minato struggles to even compare to his previous versions (He's the worst one)


Naruto by a landmine

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On 2018-11-09 19:15:34Show this Author Only
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Do 6path Naruto mistery ignores doge?

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On 2018-11-09 19:24:17Show this Author Only
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Naruto hits every round, removes buff and shields, interrupts and selfheals every round but round 1 and not by a low quantity. His mystery is not agk or hiruzen one but is still not horrible.




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On 2018-11-09 19:29:27Show this Author Only
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Naruto Six path vs Minato Kurama Mode

Major difference

- Interrupt to 9 ninja every turn (given he gets his auto to combo) vs a 3 turn cooldown on Minato in 3v3 this can easily trigger 30 combo chase every turn rather than just once then waiting until turn 5

- Has buff removal+Imobile on chase, this directly counters flower guard and root of the warrior. Meaning you can stop impetus dance or a lighting's main turn 2 who would usually be immune to debuffs. This will also remove buffs as Minato gets from his chase.

- Renew's his buffs every turn so buff removal does not affect him.

Minor things

-He can heal making him much more durable and raises his combo rate

I think Minato has more potential if the enemy doesn't have buff removal and he can survive to his second mystery because he gains buffs from his chase. However the ignite+tag I feel is somewhat underwhelming due to so many current and coming soon ninja being debuff immune. But by that time Naruto will have done his mystery 3-4 times.



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On 2018-11-09 19:50:19Show this Author Only
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Thanks a lot everyone, wasn't aware the minato cooldown was 3 rounds.


My only knowledge of him came from forums and youtube, like I said people complained about low damage but purely comparing their skills on the recruit page I was struggling to see why naruto is much more sought after, atleast among my servers. This helps a great deal


btw was my first time going to youtube to try and judge a characters worth and just watched random people, I may aswell ask on the subject, so if anyone's able to point me in the direction of good channels for this i'd appreciate that too




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On 2018-11-09 20:44:53Show this Author Only
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Remember also that if you watch chinese videos they can't, most of the times, be compared to our ones due to usually higher average power of their ninjas and different meta lineups available due to more breaktroughs and mutations in comparison with us.

Many people there actually own a way fatter, in comparison with us, move 3/4 and a move 2 way closer to move 1 than our ones.

That said, imho, naruto six paths too, exactly like kurama, is not meant to be a move1 ninja, but a move 2 (except for arena).

The only version of naruto meant to be move 1 is ninetails chakra one.




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On 2018-11-09 21:53:03Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-11-09 20:44:53
  • Remember also that if you watch chinese videos they can't, most of the times, be compared to our ones due to usually higher average power of their ninjas and different meta lineups available due to more breaktroughs and mutations in comparison with us.

    Many people there actually own a way fatter, in comparison with us, move 3/4 and a move 2 way closer to move 1 than our ones.

    That said, imho, naruto six paths too, exactly like kurama, is not meant to be a move1 ninja, but a move 2 (except for arena).

    The only version of naruto meant to be move 1 is ninetails chakra one.

Naruto 9tails is pretty much dead atm. He feels way out of meta, since most new ninjas released outscale him.

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On 2018-11-10 00:00:58Show this Author Only
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  • D-Best On 2018-11-09 19:29:27
  • Naruto Six path vs Minato Kurama Mode

    Major difference

    - Interrupt to 9 ninja every turn (given he gets his auto to combo) vs a 3 turn cooldown on Minato in 3v3 this can easily trigger 30 combo chase every turn rather than just once then waiting until turn 5

    - Has buff removal+Imobile on chase, this directly counters flower guard and root of the warrior. Meaning you can stop impetus dance or a lighting's main turn 2 who would usually be immune to debuffs. This will also remove buffs as Minato gets from his chase.

    - Renew's his buffs every turn so buff removal does not affect him.

    Minor things

    -He can heal making him much more durable and raises his combo rate

    I think Minato has more potential if the enemy doesn't have buff removal and he can survive to his second mystery because he gains buffs from his chase. However the ignite+tag I feel is somewhat underwhelming due to so many current and coming soon ninja being debuff immune. But by that time Naruto will have done his mystery 3-4 times.



Buff removals do not remove scaling buffs, so minato would keep his stacks in all situations.


Additionally, in general, the one thing I haven't been able to determine is if narutos mystery in undodgeable. If it isn't, thats a huge point in minute's favor because he can stop the opposing slot 1 shisuis and jonins. However 6path naruto is also undodgeable less of a difference.


Finally, minatos damage really isn't that bad at all. I actually put his damage only slightly below jonin's bond mystery, and even that's unfair because my jonin is 5* (been farming that *er since the beginning). His only real downside is the lack of cd reduction, and well that's what dance is for. Not perfect, but better than twiddling your thumbs till r5.

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On 2018-11-10 00:46:51Show this Author Only
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  • ............... On 2018-11-09 19:50:19
  • Thanks a lot everyone, wasn't aware the minato cooldown was 3 rounds.


    My only knowledge of him came from forums and youtube, like I said people complained about low damage but purely comparing their skills on the recruit page I was struggling to see why naruto is much more sought after, atleast among my servers. This helps a great deal


    btw was my first time going to youtube to try and judge a characters worth and just watched random people, I may aswell ask on the subject, so if anyone's able to point me in the direction of good channels for this i'd appreciate that too

Here are the youtubers I personally view on youtube (just search 'naruto online 'person name'' on youtube and u should get them); Kaizer (NY server), Kawa (NY server), Amber (CN Server), Whitefang.

Also, Edo Minato's strongest 'advantages' are that a) he hits 10 ninjas, b) he interrrupts all those ninjas, and c) he hits even dodge ninjas, d) he scales in damage and combo rate.

Now, Six Paths Naruto... also hits a) 9 ninjas, b) interrupts those ninjas. He may not hit dodge or scale in damage, but instead he has Masked Man's 'remove buff/chase + immobile' on his chase, and like Kurama Naruto can reduce cooldown. Meaning 6 paths naruto can go every round, as opposed to once every 3 rounds for edo minato. That alone would make him superior, since this game is all about position 1 ninja mysteries.

Note however... if you already have Kurama Naruto, then 6 paths naruto is more like an upgrade of him, so it might be better to go for a different ninja. It'd be like having Jonin Minato already, but going for Hokage Minato too.

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On 2018-11-10 00:53:55Show this Author Only
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  • goalie720 On 2018-11-10 00:00:58
  • Buff removals do not remove scaling buffs, so minato would keep his stacks in all situations.


    Additionally, in general, the one thing I haven't been able to determine is if narutos mystery in undodgeable. If it isn't, thats a huge point in minute's favor because he can stop the opposing slot 1 shisuis and jonins. However 6path naruto is also undodgeable less of a difference.


    Finally, minatos damage really isn't that bad at all. I actually put his damage only slightly below jonin's bond mystery, and even that's unfair because my jonin is 5* (been farming that *er since the beginning). His only real downside is the lack of cd reduction, and well that's what dance is for. Not perfect, but better than twiddling your thumbs till r5.

6 paths naruto's mystery is dodgeable i believe. But that can be countered if you have susanoo kakashi too on the field.

Also... lmao the only way jonin minato hits less than edo minato is if you don't have the bond mystery. With it, Jonin Minato hits much harder.

Difference is that edo minato, while his damage is low, hits 10 ninjas compared to Jonin minato's 2-4 ninjas (not counting clones). So even though edo minato hits less than 50% as hard, he hits twice as many, so it SEEMS like the damage output is good.

But then... consider jonin minato usually hits 2-4 ninjas EVERY ROUND, and edo minato is once every 3 rounds... and you'll start seeing why edo minato's damage output is considered pathetic. Whales using him don't count, almost any ninja hits hard when you're at 300k.

Edo Minato is b/c of this... a pretty bad 1v1-ninja, and more of a support ninja for 3v3's. Sith Paths Naruto though can be used for both, since he can go every round while hitting 9 ninjas (3v3).

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  • Nightowlgamer On 2018-11-10 00:53:55
  • 6 paths naruto's mystery is dodgeable i believe. But that can be countered if you have susanoo kakashi too on the field.

    Also... lmao the only way jonin minato hits less than edo minato is if you don't have the bond mystery. With it, Jonin Minato hits much harder.

    Difference is that edo minato, while his damage is low, hits 10 ninjas compared to Jonin minato's 2-4 ninjas (not counting clones). So even though edo minato hits less than 50% as hard, he hits twice as many, so it SEEMS like the damage output is good.

    But then... consider jonin minato usually hits 2-4 ninjas EVERY ROUND, and edo minato is once every 3 rounds... and you'll start seeing why edo minato's damage output is considered pathetic. Whales using him don't count, almost any ninja hits hard when you're at 300k.

    Edo Minato is b/c of this... a pretty bad 1v1-ninja, and more of a support ninja for 3v3's. Sith Paths Naruto though can be used for both, since he can go every round while hitting 9 ninjas (3v3).

I repeat, I own both ninjas, and sit at just over 200k, so maybe mid casher best place to put me. In 1v1 situations, against same bp, jonin with bond does maybe 10,15% more damage than edo minato. Yes he has the advantage of generally going every round, but with wind main on dance you can edo minato off r2 and r3, and by that point the fight is generally over. 1v1 I still put jonin above edo, but its much closer than everyone makes it out to be.


Edit: Susanoo kakashi also is terrible, his only useful function is stop dodging and you're wasting a team slot to bring him along when you'd rather something else.




This post was last edited by goalie720 on 2018-11-10 01:01:17.
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On 2018-11-10 04:09:49Show this Author Only
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Yea this naruto is pretty good unless you get * *ed in 1st turn... he gains the immunity after you mystery so he completely vulnerable in first turn (ofc you gotta be fast)

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  • CHROLLOLUCILFER On 2018-11-10 04:09:49
  • Yea this naruto is pretty good unless you get * *ed in 1st turn... he gains the immunity after you mystery so he completely vulnerable in first turn (ofc you gotta be fast)

Naruto's immunity is permanent even on turn 1 he only gains combo rate and life steal from using his mystery

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On 2018-11-10 08:23:19Show this Author Only
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  • Shryke On 2018-11-09 21:53:03
  • Naruto 9tails is pretty much dead atm. He feels way out of meta, since most new ninjas released outscale him.

he just said that among the various naruto versions, the only version he thinks that's meant to be a move 1 is 6tails (i think so too to be honest), he didn't say that he is good or bad in that role right now.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-11-10 08:23:42.
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  • Shryke On 2018-11-09 21:53:03
  • Naruto 9tails is pretty much dead atm. He feels way out of meta, since most new ninjas released outscale him.

Naruto 6 tails is way very expensive. They should rework his skill. For that kind amount of money, hes not worth.

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