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- YujinTakara On 2018-10-09 13:53:14
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My pleasure...
and... just take your time... i'll wait xD
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- Kuebiko On 2018-10-09 19:23:27
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sleep and immobile don't override each other.
sleep and chaos, immobile and chaos. these pairs will cancel out, but not sleep and immobile
you can actually test this out easily on kakashi, putting fire main at pos1, a tai-standard at pos2 and shikamaru in pos3. cast immobile on kakashi, allow your fire main to cast sleep after that. the pos2 tai standard will remove the sleep, but not the immobile.
If is so then this changed with 5.0
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- Jiburiru On 2018-10-09 07:18:46
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Hi! After some testing, it seems that if Ignite was applied say by using Naruto [Nine Tails Chakra] and you had Azure Fang's Poison Tai, Poison Tai gets removed first. I believe it may be due to the fact that Poison Tai is a passive of Azure Fang and technically applied second when Naruto [Nine Tails Chakra] attacked, as Naruto [Nine Tails Chakra]'s Standard Attack causes Ignition.
However, in order to better answer you, I believe it would be better if you give us an actual scenario or example to test, rather than a hypothetical one.
Hope that helps!
~Jib
ignite always gets removed before poison.
use a fire main high chase combo with koh, poison is applied last and removed last.
use a water main with poison tai and itachi, poison is applied first and removed last. shark bomb with kd to high chase then itachi will chase for ignite
i think it was coded to do this because ignite stops healing, poison doesn't, so this is the better order for healers who are the majority of cleansers anyway. if you had 2 healers who cleanse 1 debuff each then its better for them to cleanse ignite with no healing then poison and heal instead of poison and no healing then ignite and no healing.
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- Shadoblaze On 2018-10-12 22:40:06
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ignite always gets removed before poison.
use a fire main high chase combo with koh, poison is applied last and removed last.
use a water main with poison tai and itachi, poison is applied first and removed last. shark bomb with kd to high chase then itachi will chase for ignite
i think it was coded to do this because ignite stops healing, poison doesn't, so this is the better order for healers who are the majority of cleansers anyway. if you had 2 healers who cleanse 1 debuff each then its better for them to cleanse ignite with no healing then poison and heal instead of poison and no healing then ignite and no healing.
The first case, cos chase always come first, than summon, so poison should be cleared first.
The second case, if u use shark bomb it wont cause poison cos shark bomb is pure nin, then charka blade to cause high will poison, itachi chase will only cause ignite cos it is pure nin, my conclusion is ignite got cleared first.
In one of your cases, ignite got cleared first, but all of them are still correct according to my board. So if you make another test where poison is applied last, then u'll see for yourself.
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- Shadoblaze On 2018-10-12 22:40:06
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ignite always gets removed before poison.
use a fire main high chase combo with koh, poison is applied last and removed last.
use a water main with poison tai and itachi, poison is applied first and removed last. shark bomb with kd to high chase then itachi will chase for ignite
i think it was coded to do this because ignite stops healing, poison doesn't, so this is the better order for healers who are the majority of cleansers anyway. if you had 2 healers who cleanse 1 debuff each then its better for them to cleanse ignite with no healing then poison and heal instead of poison and no healing then ignite and no healing.
the evidence OP posted speaks for itself man
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- Shadoblaze On 2018-10-12 22:40:06
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ignite always gets removed before poison.
use a fire main high chase combo with koh, poison is applied last and removed last.
use a water main with poison tai and itachi, poison is applied first and removed last. shark bomb with kd to high chase then itachi will chase for ignite
i think it was coded to do this because ignite stops healing, poison doesn't, so this is the better order for healers who are the majority of cleansers anyway. if you had 2 healers who cleanse 1 debuff each then its better for them to cleanse ignite with no healing then poison and heal instead of poison and no healing then ignite and no healing.
actually poison is removed first in your first example :)
and poison is removed second in your second example because that's the algorithmic nature of same-tier debuffs
if you can provide evidence where poison is removed last in your first scenario i'd gladly have a discussion with you, but all 3 threads of 5.0 debuffs have so far proven you otherwise. there's no need to even speculate on the coding.
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