each ninja has different uses

Thanks for your answer mate, but well now I need to do some research who should I go next. I saw some video edo hiruzen cleared pvp match faster meanwhile madara 5k more useful in teamfight. I need good feedback from those has them already if possible.

Hiruzen provides dmg buffs to his team, has a round 1 mystry ready he is overall good for Team Instances and Jin rescue. The hiruzen you saw on the vid that cleared pvp fast was stacked one and has more power than his opponent. 5k Madara on the other hand, gives you the ability to remove all shields, buffs and cancels all barriers on both fields, he's perfect for taking out opponents that depends on buffs and barries to fight.

Depend on your goal and situation, you want a faster sage team to guarantee top 3 spot then go for Hiruzen. But if you want to fight people around your power level then pick cool tobi.

PvP wise, hiruzen can beat cool tobi if you stack your hiruzen enough. However the jonin minato - cool tobi duo are also very strong in 1v1 pvp as long as you have higher ini than your opponent,

First of all, don't be impressed too much by Edo Hiruzen players from YouTube.

- Are you top sage player?

Yes, Edo Hiruzen is for you to go around and sweep for fast streak.

No, you can still use him for other role, i.e. support buffs and PvE.

If you're not top sage. He is still useful in team fights i.e. GNW, Ranked Battle and Bond. His 9 units buff is legit. His standard still smacks hard even if he's pos 2. His will passive allows him to be front line a little.

His chase 30 hits combo is not that difficult to achieve, since his mystery already does many hits and not dodgeable. He can still melt your enemy even if he's in support role.

His mystery got countered by Hokage Minato and stacked shield. You need to fight against player with and without Hokage Minato and you'll see damage reduction is very noticeable.

Easy simple Konoha-blitz team, Edo Tensei Team, etc.

Madara 5 Kage

IMO he's more for pvp. Round 2 1-shot. He's great buddy with Bond Minato and Edo Deidara, those who have self-scaling.

His dodge is unlimited but chase ONLY, which it gives advantage to interupt combo.

His mystery can be cc'ed. Vs someone with Itachi Susano you will have hard time.

His chase does a lot of damage, ignores some def and res (+ tag from Minato oh boy).

20-hit Chase is easier to achieve than 30-hit Edo Hiruzen.

I've seen some players used him in GNW. He can be double-edge sword if your enemies hit harder than you.

But which one to go for? Edo Hiruzen, because he's more fun and easier (cheaper) to build team with.

Madara 5 Kage is probably now meta. Effectiveness of Edo Hiruzen doesn't reduce much, because most of time Madara will be pos 2 anyway.

I simply picked Edo Hiruzen, because his utilities are more useful than Madara.

I guess I have to piece up both of them for sage and great ninja war one day. Thanks again for your reply Niga

'ey Jinga San, I wish I've edo hiruzen to sweep up from our bracket sage. But I think, he only good in round 1 with high stats, otherwise no damage to foes + burden for next rounds. By the way, Why does 10k speed not effective like China server? (Move first than first position ninja). Any idea about that?

Very nice Polaroid, Thanks so much for your detail explanation. I'll look forward to piece up both of them for future usage. I'm just common player anyway in my merged servers. In sage being a baby shark sometimes, but always end up face with a Meg who always end the streak of others (feel annoyed with him) even trying to stay peace. . Thanks again mate.

Well look

Madara 5 kage is a support ninja you can't run him 1st pose

and you are looking for a pvp team

I would suggest edo hiruzen simple team blitz team

asuma wb iruka and a ninja with fire barier Earth main

From what i've seen,madara lasts longer,but hiruzen does more damage fully buffed.

Great idea, I'll look forward for it. This gonna be fun since edo hiruzen will be on next events. Thanks mate.

I tried with my groupmate, he is using madara 5k. Seem like more useful to fight top players. Cant wait to get him soon

It all depends on how much more power you have than your opponents. If you're one of those whales that out powers his opponents by 50k, get Hiruzen. If you're generally at about the same power as your opponents, your Hiruzen isn't gonna hit very hard. Most of the people you'll meet will have shields, root or Minato's buff. Hiruzen has a hard time doing damage to similar power players with the aforementioned buffs. If this is the case, then Madara is a better choice. You can run the water main chaos cancer, or use him with Jonin Minato.

It really depends on alot of factors that you have to consider first:

Where are you in power relative to your server?

If you are in the top bracket and top dog, Hiruzen may be the easy choice for you. He will help you mow down people and speed up SWB.

But seeing as you are asking to choose between the two, I would probably guess that your power isn't creme de la creme, which I would suggest 5k madara. Especially considering that he is meta still in china today. Having him has helped me to contend with people that are using Hiruzen with a 30k power advantage over me. That should tell you something.

Bottom line is: Go for 5K Madara first, second EGKakuzu / Deidara (assuming you have Jonin Minato, these are meta in china with 5kM when they get skillbreaks), third Angel Konan ......THEN Edo Hiruzen.

Also, finish Minato Bond Mystery. We had second Great Plates with Kid Kakashi, so there is no excuse now. You should be spending all your moon/sun coins to get it unlocked (I am calling them COINS....because they ARE coins. Stop with this scroll nonsense!!)

Also, side note. If you get 5k Madara, skip Kisame Fusion.