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[ Strategy Share ] Counter blitz team (Edo Hiruzen)

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On 2018-06-15 01:38:32Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Any lineups to defeat him guys ? Just need to prepare to fight him imao


In my opinion : Susanoo Itachi on pos 1 lineup (if faster)


: Kushimaru team with root of warrior (+100% resistance which Hiruzen' mystery is pure ninjutsu )





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On 2018-06-15 02:12:00Show this Author Only
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A lot of them need to have the faster po1, but stuff like shark kisame, han, root of the warrior teams, and minato hokage team are generally good starts, with control setups also being good since hiruzen is not immune to debuff and can thus be controlled fairly easily.

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Any interrupt/control, buff clear (wind mains sage dust/han/masked) provided you are faster. If you are slower, stack up shields. A lot :)

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On 2018-06-15 07:20:58Show this Author Only
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1v1 if you don't have control or defensive build you will have difficult time.

As team ie GNW all in him asap. His passive makes him tanky af

or

Use Susano Sasuke XD 0 dmg




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Hello, you will need full elemental resistances + full Resistance buffs + shields and he will not get pass from the shields . Tested. Other than that any buff removal faster in 1st position can erase him. (Masked Man, Han ) etc... Shark kisame can work as well.

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On 2018-06-15 16:16:48Show this Author Only
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Itachi shisui masked man wind main? If u faster noway team hiruzen defeat you.

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On 2018-06-15 17:22:16Show this Author Only
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Sasuke susano'o + tendo + cf with chakra wall and shield passive the 4th ninja may be which one you want... Tendo in front of hiruzen.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-06-15 17:34:51.
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On 2018-06-17 11:11:19Show this Author Only
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Edo hiruzen's mystery base damage is really low, so even when fully buffed he doesn't do too much damage. Any decent team assuming you have similar bp can beat the edo hiruzen blitz team. For example I'm a 88.5k player running a crappy jonin minato team and i beat a 94k player that ran edo hiruzen(he had better initiative)




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On 2018-06-17 13:18:54Show this Author Only
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Edo hiruzen blitz has varied results based on how his bp is in relation to all the other ninja on the field, if bp is close to even than hiruzen is gonna cause damage, but your most likely going to survive the first wave okay, just note that anyone he follows up on with he basic is likely to be in critical condition afterwords. The point where hiruzen starts to get really scary is when people start to really build up their first position ninja, cause than there is a risk that hiruzen can kill off key support ninja do to stat difference, and thus having huge resistance stacking is a must in this case. Where your really have to fear hiruzen is in places like db since he can soften the enemy team or pick off the support team, while at the same time giving major boosts to his allies, prepare for hurt is the other team is running a stacked angel konan cause hiruzen served you on a silver platter for her.

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On 2018-06-17 13:21:39Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-15 17:22:16
  • Sasuke susano'o + tendo + cf with chakra wall and shield passive the 4th ninja may be which one you want... Tendo in front of hiruzen.

Just a forewarning, Edo Hiruzen attacks with his basic in random column, so putting tendo in front of him is not really going to always negated that. And if its the chase you desire there is better ways to start it.




This post was last edited by Sammyjay on 2018-06-17 13:23:24.
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On 2018-06-17 19:42:56Show this Author Only
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  • Sammyjay On 2018-06-17 13:18:54
  • Edo hiruzen blitz has varied results based on how his bp is in relation to all the other ninja on the field, if bp is close to even than hiruzen is gonna cause damage, but your most likely going to survive the first wave okay, just note that anyone he follows up on with he basic is likely to be in critical condition afterwords. The point where hiruzen starts to get really scary is when people start to really build up their first position ninja, cause than there is a risk that hiruzen can kill off key support ninja do to stat difference, and thus having huge resistance stacking is a must in this case. Where your really have to fear hiruzen is in places like db since he can soften the enemy team or pick off the support team, while at the same time giving major boosts to his allies, prepare for hurt is the other team is running a stacked angel konan cause hiruzen served you on a silver platter for her.

Even when you stack hiruzen heavily, it's very unlikely that he'll be able to kill off the supports unless the hiruzen player has a good bp advantage. I've faced a player that i had a stacked hiruzen around my bp and i beat him with a f2pish team. If that doesn't convince you, maybe these space time battles can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeLPJ-l-3-0 .




This post was last edited by RayzofRadiance on 2018-06-17 19:44:24.
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  • RayzofRadiance On 2018-06-17 19:42:56
  • Even when you stack hiruzen heavily, it's very unlikely that he'll be able to kill off the supports unless the hiruzen player has a good bp advantage. I've faced a player that i had a stacked hiruzen around my bp and i beat him with a f2pish team. If that doesn't convince you, maybe these space time battles can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeLPJ-l-3-0 .

Counts on how stacked, are we talking 30k with 20k teammates or are we talking 70k with 30k teammates. Hiruzen is in the same mystery damage class as kcm naruto, though kcm naruto has the advantage of a kit that still good besides pure damage. Edo hiruzens 2 primary weaknesses that he is extremely vulnerable to status effects, and that his damage on mystery can lack if properly countered. When your in the 150k+ realm stuff like a faster kcm naruto and hokage minato can go a huge way to shutting down Edo Hiruzen, as shown in the last fight of the video. Just as context, Total bp of team is 150k

Hiruzen




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  • Sammyjay On 2018-06-17 13:21:39
  • Just a forewarning, Edo Hiruzen attacks with his basic in random column, so putting tendo in front of him is not really going to always negated that. And if its the chase you desire there is better ways to start it.

Yes, but the most common lineups with him have him alone in his line (usually the ninja behind him is a support, like cf with shield standard) so by putting him in front of hiruzen you do not risk that his atk evasion gets procced by other ninjas except hiruzen itself before comes asuma standard attack turn.

And beware that this is a lineup meant to beat an enemy with a wide bp advantage over you. Tendo is there mostly to break round 1 eventually the enemy barrier. Is tendo barrier itself that start the combo to acupuncture hiruzen or an eventual annoying enemy.


Example:

Sasuke x x

CF tendo x

Konan sb x x


Other ninjas you c*e in the place of konan with skillbooks are useful evading ninjas like hokage minato, shisui, masked man or healers like sailor sakura.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-06-19 18:28:39.
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