I'm not very familiar with this games balance as a newer player, but the way it is so easy to change from one main to another is why the OP one will always be over used.

well earth doesn't get from 100 hp to full hp from one heal or deals 6k/round poison and even more so yeaaa earth needs a nerf

always whining.....

earth needs a nerf? he already got nerfed and his shields are smaller....

he makes ninjas last longer with shields thats why they use him and maybe because of pose of duel.

water main is more overpowered than earth main. she can heal LOTS of hp and has poison tai too lol

just because people are using earth main that doesnt make him need of nerf lol

I don't think he needs to be nerf. He's still only decent with a few ninjas.

Pose of Duel and Defense Reviews passives are the only things that make those ninjas strong.

Ye, the ability to band wagon is certainly part of the problem. Frankly, perfect balance is impossible for any game with diversity, even the most popular games, LoL, WoW etc,require constant balance patches. So it's not exactly fair to expect perfect balance. That said, considering how infrequent this game receive such updates, it is inevitable that there would be balance problems and it will be abused. As it were, if there are constant and frequent adjustments, then people won't bandwagon, as it costs quite a bit of resource to switch ninja in this game, mainly in mood scroll and awakening material costs, and in case of some ninja, a cost to getting them. But alas, slow update means bandwagon, so class switching for the optimal team is the norm.

If only there was some kind of loyalty bonus for not changing class....

he was only made decent because of deidara edo tensei and with the healers

at this point ,it all depends on your ninjas and power. earth is weak against lighting main specially the ay 4th samui team or the roshi,bee ,hidan team or even the good old blitz,but the edo deidara earth team is countering water cancer teams.

I think fire is actually the weakest for now,the other mains have decent teams to work with.

Itachi susano'o, masked man, onoki. Doesn't seem that weak. I still have to find a counter that doesn't require hokage tsunade or six tails naruto.

EDIT:definition of counter: a team that stand a chance with lower initiative and relatively lower power.

A nerf? are you okay? do u need a medic? you basically can shutdown a earth main around 3 or 4 rounds, unless he's using a healer or a gakido/hanzo, even so, the way i see it, you got a ninja that pretty much takes off his shields, so unless you dont have him, you can go water main poison spec and pretty much put a sustain team and gg.

^ if he use hanzo/gakido or both with healer/some hitter it pretty ez . anyway i dont know why Earth need Nerf ,hope he gt pretty good changes.

Was a reply to me?

nope . its to Xkorpitron and to this thread.

Earth main is garbage right now, only players with 70k+ bp use him and only for pose of duel and his shields. Water main on the other hand can heal for 4-5k with just 40-50k bp and combine that with the super cheap (around 2800 coupons/80 frags) Sailor sakura is utterly broken.

Yea, you can legit beat people on auto combined with some tank and another healer or cleanser....I seen people who beat others who have more than 20k bp than them with it. Still, why would earth need more of a nerf he already have?

Lol

if you used sailor sakura with him, you will use her to cancel the debuffs, and the earth for unlimited shielding (not literal), which makes him invincible, at a certain point

i'm using,read carefully what she removes with her heals,debufs yea but 3 round cd ,remember that the poison and cc in general stack don't get me wrong i like water main but i don't think it's normal to see someone afk till round 10 and use skills then and auto win

I think this has a lot to do with ninja like Edo Tensei Deidara and Susanoo Itachi. He's not OP when paired with the ninja 99.9% of people have to work with.

Huh? Earth main nerf? he can only be good w/ certain Ninja's specially w/ the event ones and the Cloud team.