Itachi susano'o, masked man, onoki. Doesn't seem that weak. I still have to find a counter that doesn't require hokage tsunade or six tails naruto.

EDIT:definition of counter: a team that stand a chance with lower initiative and relatively lower power.

Just use sealing/chaos with Fire and everyone is done for, Imo the lightning is weak, and water poison/healing is OP, Earth is somewhere between, but little bit above average, average might be Wind and Fire, and Lightning below average as only one.

• Gmaddux On 2017.11.30
• I think this has a lot to do with ninja like Edo Tensei Deidara and Susanoo Itachi. He's not OP when paired with the ninja 99.9% of people have to work with.

Yea, the moment majority starts to use Earth with Cloud, like I do, it will get OP, because everyone will use it, and not often there will be anyone who can beat it at same power level or 10k higher. Still Water Main with huge poison and huge healing, even without Sailor Sakura, is still OP, only way to beat them imo is with these new Cloud Ninja's, thanks to A's powerful mystery, and it still is not as easy since that poison and fire from Roshi takes a lot of HP. Sometimes the outcome of Cloud ninjas with Earth depends which one Omoi likes to start combo on in round 1, it will determine the result in second round after 3rd A's strike.

So at the end, Earth is not the one to be nerfed if only 10-20% of players in a server has good teams with it that are quite hard to beat, where Water is used more than 40% of players per server, and the rest is light, wind, Fire, second most used I think is Fire, then lightning, and then Wind, and Earth is somewhere between Fire and Lightning since not many have Cloud ninja's yet, but soon a lot of people will have them, which is kind of disappointing for me personally, since I skipped Jinchuuriki treasure and had a really hard time to play with lightning main against Han/Roshi meta teams, even with the classic Water meta - Mabui, Ten Ten, Mei. It was a loss after loss, had no point playing Matsuri Challenge, Arena, or anything else that involved pvp. The same will be with Cloud ninja's after a month or two, but with Cloud it started faster than it was with Roshi and Han, where it took a while for a lot of players to get Roshi and Han, unlike Cloud, where I see people just getting 3rd A's in my server, still not enough for it to be mainstream like Roshi and Han, yet, but it is there, behind corner.

At the end, repeating many times this, that Water is the one that needs nerf on poison and heal, I mean, you c*e heal, poison and acupuncture at the same time...but too much in one main character, isn't it?