Hey Shadow, I know the perfect solution to your problem.

How about you just kick some more of your group members. It seems to have worked out just great the first time.

A restriction on class change would certainly help slow the spread of cancer and bandwagon

I mean it is a good thing for player wanting to experiment different things or "change their mind". But when it is used for bandwagons....

Take the current water meta for example. If class change isn't a thing, then for one thing there won't be so many of them. For another, water does have more difficulty, I believe, in ninja exam. And not clearing the new 180 tier means they are going to be a 1k power down by default, which curbs it somewhat (maybe not even 140? Earth is the way to go there after all).

The problem with just "fixing 3 healer team", so to speak is that even if that's done, there will be a new meta. And players will flock to whatever that might be and the bandwagon will continue. On the other hand, if the fix is instead put on the method of bandwagoning, then at least it would never be so bad.

Also, game balancing is hard. So even if they patch the game every other week with balance changes, all that would achieve is that people have to continuously find new meta as opposed to stay with one for a long time. This might be a bit more draining on resources (awakening mats for more common ninjas and coupon/ingots if buying specific ninjas are required) and somewhat curb bandwagoning as it won't have time to propagate much, but it's not going to actually stop meta(and at that, it's probably unrealistic as they couldn't come up with a fix until a meta becomes a problem in the first place). While it's true that this game is especially slow in balancing fixes, it's a war that devs will never win in the end anyway.

So really, hindering the act of bandwagon is probably more effective than fixing any particular meta.

Of course, as long as it's a restriction and not removal, it can probably be bypassed with $, so in the end it just makes ptw able to meta while ftp unable to, which is undesirable in and of itself. So that's bad.

But imagine, if class change is removed and then they patched to make water the worst class. Imagine the suffering of the bandwagoners!

Another team you can try is hebihime, tayuya, fu, azure fang with neurotoxin, skewering, healing jutsu and poison tai. Hebihime and tayuya mysteries can interrupt their healing mysteries, put two of the ninjas under sleep every round and get boosted by the enemy hits while they won't boost roshi at all since their mysteries are full nin. you just need to control with skewering or with fu mystery the healer that gets left out of control and they'll die by poison without being able to do anything mostly for the whole battle.

Well, just wondering if this team will work (don't flame me if im wrong) Han/FM/roshi/hanzo with KOH summon or roshi/dp hidan/bee/LM.

Another thing i recall is Hokage tsunade also is not a F2P ninja (didnt really remember she can be obtained with coupons or obtained via <5k coupons)

Yes, i admit that it is tough to fight healing teams.

I can't tell if you're *ed or just trolling Zelgadis...

Just Shadow complaining that his wallet can't beat Water teams. Like Molds said you legit have multiple ways to counter "water cancer teams" but you seem to never run an actual good team that counters them... Starting to think this a you problem at this point. You clearly have no idea how to adapt... Plus you remind me of a slightly less *ed version of MysticBlade. PS maybe actually try a different Main.

Its like u people are being Fooled by Shadow LIES..If that one person who is water switch class, There would be NO water mains on the server that could beat him, If im wrong

PLZ shadow or anyone else on S2 give us 4 names out of the 100+ water mains that can beat shadow, theres only like 1 or 2 names maybe , His post is a DAM JOKE

He make it seems like he losses, but in fact he wins most of the time. I just feel cause he spent a Ton more money, he think he should win 100% of the time

He wants a Nerf to a class where 99 out of the 100 people that play it, cant beat him, and only that 1, has a very small chance at winning

He wants it so nobody has a chance to beat him and thats wrong to me

Or maybe they're just agreeing with him because if they don't...

He'll just kick more people from his group.

it feels like u guys ran out of ways to counter me so now ur just trying to insult me,

@kanbe, whoever u r, i kicked people from my group who quit the game, dont see how thats a problem or ur concern.

@karissaa, most of the people who can beat me as water main dont like playing it, but the list includes, all of our top 6(excluding me, hard to beat myself) when they do choose to go water as well as others like dien(who quit water because he doesnt like it even though it gave him a win against mystic). also dont try to talk like you arent water trying to prevent it from being nerfed. Im not lying and you know it and i actualy can beat people who spent more money, i wont deny that i win alot, i also wont lie about the fact that ive lost track of the amount of people who went water to counter water teams and switched back because they dont like water cancer(like genova)

i dont want to nerf a class that i cant beat, i want to nerf a class that has no real counter, just like you wanted fire nerfed back when it was op cause u couldnt beat it without being fire, so dont go telling me off when you did the same stuff ur complaining about.

besides i already KNOW water gets nerfed, if you pay attention to the cn servers you can see it gets nerfed multiple ways. tencent already knows water is op, so i dont know what you're talking about here, cause if water wasnt op it wouldnt be getting a nerf to its healing, the fact that tencent did nerf its healing proves it is op, i just want it nerfed sooner. but i will be happy to wait, and when its nerfed u will leave for the next op thing u can find, and i will be able to beat u in all the events with ease because u wont have an op class keeping u alive.

@Kayumityikki, the lightning main team loses even when it has 30k more power, my spacetime bracket saw that a few months ago, water can skewer and chaos the hidan forever so its constantly killing itself(or it just needs to wait for round 3 and then it can chaos without skewer, karissaa proved that as well a month or 2 before dien won), the han/roshi/hanzo team also doesnt work, han doesnt help at all, water mains will wait till the end of turn 2 and chaos hanzo or fire main then turn 3 chaos the other and poison will likely tick so hard in that small window that hanzo and fire main cant come back from it so 2 or 3 turns later even when using shield it dies to poison

It seems like you're just making excuses that you can wait and some BS.

That you will win when water becomes nerfed.

The hell are you complaining for if you can wait lol

i can complain while waiting cant i? they aren't mutually exclusive. y r u guys complaining so much about me wanting water to finaly get nerfed?

You're hoping for something that isn't going to happen for a long time, adapt while you still can my dude and maybe you will be able to beat Slazar without going to 10 rounds

In before he starts complaining about the Cancer Earth teams now

Complaining about something that you know won't come for a long time is a fool's game.

I'd like to go in on you, but it seems Molds beat me to it

its going to come before the end of the year at this rate, i wouldnt call that a long time.

@molds, he survived to 10 rounds cause i messed up multiple times, i kinda didnt realy care too much since he didnt have the damage to beat me and his total health was lower so i could have went afk without auto and still won. dont know y u guys think using earth main sailor sakura and gakido and going 10 rounds is something amazing anyway, its a tank team its meant to live long, and its not op, it trades living a long time for not dealing damage, thats called balance.

mhm but he was 40k power below you, you shouldn't have any problems with beating someone that much weaker than you

i didnt have a problem beating him, it just took a while cause of shields and heals, 8k shields from gakido 4k shields from earth main, and all of sakuras heals add up to a long fight, not a hard one, thats y i had full heal when i won

Mei+poison team= 5500-6000 damage poison damage

Again Shadow with your Dam LIES, So lets address them, I asked u to come on here and name, 4 Azure Fang players that can beat u right now and all u do is bring up the past

Everything Dien did since u like to bring up his name so much he did in 2.0, where to me he quit water on top , as the best water player in 2.0 . You need to GROW UP, WE ARE IN 3.0 NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You bring up Mystic and any other name u want, that didnt have ITACHI and Jonin Minato,They have these ninja NOW!! They didnt before, its a whole new game

I mean whats next u going to bring up stuff that happen when the game 1st came out ???? But 1 step at a time. Name the 4 water players now playing water that can beat YOU!!!!!, and enough with the Dam Bull crap and LIES, we both know its about u spending more and feeling u need to win all the time

uhm all i can do is bring up the past, cause im not fighting them right now so they aren't beating me right now. your comprehension of the english language is apparently rather lacking. since fire was nerfed with 3.0 and water didn't change much if they could beat me pre 3.0 they can beat me now too. 3.0 has been out for over a month now, dien won the space time before last, and its not like any talents changed with 3.0 for water besides the levels to unlock them, lightning got a buff to a talent no-one uses anyway so I don't know what you think would change there. and as i said before, most of the people can't beat me with their normal teams and they don't like playing water(like genova) but when they change to water they will beat me, i'm starting to question whether you are actually reading anything i say, or if its that you simply are not capable of understanding.

there is a list of changes with 3.0, its mostly cosmetic changes, https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-22552-1.html, there is nothing that would make fire be able to win now when it couldn't before.

mystic had susano itachi before 3.0, so i don't know what your talking about there, just like multiple people from our server also had him pre 3.0 and didn't use him long after getting him.

i'm not the one lying, your the one lying to everyone, probably including yourself. if someone uses earth main, or lightning main, or wind main, or fire main and beats me, i'm fine with it, i didn't like that i lost to mysticblade last spacetime but i accepted it and he deserved the win. before watarutamura slowed down how much he played and he beat me i accepted it without coming onto the forums like you saying "NERF LIGHTNING ITS OP!!!", cause i knew he won because he had a better team and outplayed me, not because lightning was op. you are the one who complains that you can't win when you think you should, you did it with fire main, you did it with lightning main, and if you didn't have the ninjas to use an op water lineup you would be doing it with water main too. please stop lying,

i can go find you videos showing the differences between our water and the cn water mains if you want definitive proof that it gets nerfed, and what other reason would they nerf it for other than it being over powered? please accept facts, you are using a main which is over powered, you keep trying to hide and ly to everyone, but you need to accept the truth, its because you can't accept the truth that i got annoyed and blacklisted you in game, please grow up and start to live in the real world.

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