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On 2017-08-17 18:09:43Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Greetings


I would like to ask how much is Hanzo in this new event? Because i think its extremely overpriced until i get to 5-6lv where are better prices.

And how much is Hanzo in normal events like Sage treasure etc..?

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On 2017-08-17 18:17:29Show this Author Only
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Hanzo is relatively cheap. Pretty much the same price as sage naruto in events. So anything above 100 coupons per frag is overpriced

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On 2017-08-17 18:20:17Show this Author Only
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But this event is about luck, how much cupons is he rn ?

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On 2017-08-17 18:40:13Show this Author Only
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We need to know other things before we can evaluate his cost.

Theorycrafting section:

For example at tree lvl 1 you have a chance to get 2 coins, lets assume all prizes have equal % of pulling (which obviously wont be the case later on). You have 25% chance to pull 2 coins, so every pull you get 0.5coins. At this level, you'd need to spend 800 coupons to get 20 points, thus 1 frag. Now lets look at tree level 7 and assume same unrealistic scenario that u have equal chance of pulling each item: 12.5% chance for 6, 7, 8, 10 coins, so 8 draws will get you 31 coins, so 3.875 coins on average. With that assumption you can get 20 coins for 103,22 coupons, reducing price 8 times (still, expensive for his age and what this ninja is worth). Now the price might be slightly lower, because we are not living in a dream that tendo/9tails naruto will have the same rate as filler rewards, thus increasing the overall rate for coins. Can't say, he might get cheaper, but im 100% sure not to the point, where that gigantic investment into leveling tree will be returned.

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We have no idea how many points we need to upgrade the tree- if personal tree is related to global in a way, that you can level your own tree once global gets higher lvl, then high lvl rewards are literally unobtainable. If it isn't corelated, we don't know how many points are needed to upgrade each level (level 1->2 requires 20, whats next?) and with every draw used on lower levels you have lower income than taken into account in calculations above.

Sidenote: if you arent sleeping on money, dont go into rng events like this. They *.





This post was last edited by Zathroth on 2017-08-17 18:45:27.
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On 2017-08-17 18:52:03Show this Author Only
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I also want to know how many ingots cursed hidan and/or hanzo costs

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On 2017-08-17 18:57:16Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2017-08-17 18:40:13
  • We need to know other things before we can evaluate his cost.

    Theorycrafting section:

    For example at tree lvl 1 you have a chance to get 2 coins, lets assume all prizes have equal % of pulling (which obviously wont be the case later on). You have 25% chance to pull 2 coins, so every pull you get 0.5coins. At this level, you'd need to spend 800 coupons to get 20 points, thus 1 frag. Now lets look at tree level 7 and assume same unrealistic scenario that u have equal chance of pulling each item: 12.5% chance for 6, 7, 8, 10 coins, so 8 draws will get you 31 coins, so 3.875 coins on average. With that assumption you can get 20 coins for 103,22 coupons, reducing price 8 times (still, expensive for his age and what this ninja is worth). Now the price might be slightly lower, because we are not living in a dream that tendo/9tails naruto will have the same rate as filler rewards, thus increasing the overall rate for coins. Can't say, he might get cheaper, but im 100% sure not to the point, where that gigantic investment into leveling tree will be returned.

    * * *

    We have no idea how many points we need to upgrade the tree- if personal tree is related to global in a way, that you can level your own tree once global gets higher lvl, then high lvl rewards are literally unobtainable. If it isn't corelated, we don't know how many points are needed to upgrade each level (level 1->2 requires 20, whats next?) and with every draw used on lower levels you have lower income than taken into account in calculations above.

    Sidenote: if you arent sleeping on money, dont go into rng events like this. They *.


But if i have 2500 cupons now i cant get like 30-50 hanzo fragments because it take tons of cupons to get into 4-6 tree level.. i need all cupons in row to get hanzo..

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On 2017-08-17 19:01:04Show this Author Only
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  • Huoying On 2017-08-17 18:57:16
  • But if i have 2500 cupons now i cant get like 30-50 hanzo fragments because it take tons of cupons to get into 4-6 tree level.. i need all cupons in row to get hanzo..

Then wait for other events.



@Sharinganbattousai hidan requires you to spend 16k ingots somewhere during this week.





This post was last edited by Zathroth on 2017-08-17 19:01:56.
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On 2017-08-17 19:15:01Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2017-08-17 19:01:04
  • Then wait for other events.



    @Sharinganbattousai hidan requires you to spend 16k ingots somewhere during this week.


Yeah i will but still my ask is same, how much is hanzo in event like sage treasure? Without discount 70 cupons per frag ?

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On 2017-08-17 19:33:52Show this Author Only
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  • Huoying On 2017-08-17 19:15:01
  • Yeah i will but still my ask is same, how much is hanzo in event like sage treasure? Without discount 70 cupons per frag ?

He hasnt been in treasure of the sages during 6 months, no idea if he was there before that. Last time I saw him in 9tails strength where he was ~90 cp/frag if i remember correctly- and that was the best deal (still meh) we had in a long time considering getting his frags. Unfortunately during my playtime he was always featured in ingot requiring events or in rng/bad value events like this one.





This post was last edited by Zathroth on 2017-08-17 19:34:03.
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On 2017-08-17 19:36:28Show this Author Only
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Thats sad.. i try to get around 4k cupons i hope it would be enough to get him..

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On 2017-08-17 19:51:46Show this Author Only
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You will need at least 8k coupons in any case to get him.

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On 2017-08-17 21:09:42Show this Author Only
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I forgot what event was it but Hanzo was with kage gaara and I got him for 5k or 5.5k coupons...here is way more expensive.





This post was last edited by S.H.I.E.L.D on 2017-08-17 21:10:45.
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On 2017-08-17 21:49:14Show this Author Only
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how much is summer cloth ? :D

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On 2017-08-18 04:17:58Show this Author Only
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lol i spent 3.5k only to get around 10 hanzo frag from this event. This event is meant to go BIG or go die.

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On 2017-08-18 05:42:21Show this Author Only
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i put 14k into tree event, got the new outfit and a few more coins. so its about 11 coupons for 1 coin average meaning hanzo would be over 200 coupons per frag.


tho coins get easier and easier each time you lvl the tree, so if ur able to put in 30k the prices might have dropped enough to be worth using the shop, also i got 5 tendo frags and u can only get them at lvl 5+ so my last 200 pulls giving 5 frags isnt bad.

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On 2017-08-18 15:54:05Show this Author Only
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  • Huoying On 2017-08-17 19:15:01
  • Yeah i will but still my ask is same, how much is hanzo in event like sage treasure? Without discount 70 cupons per frag ?

I dont think hanzo has ever been in discount events.


But i have seen him going for roughly 100 coupon per frag in other events where you spend points to get him which isn't as RNG as this one.

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