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On 2017-05-26 00:23:04Show this Author Only
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  • Belerephon On 2017-05-26 00:16:04
  • And thats if minato isnt comboed to death or immobilised round 1. Wind main in 4th certainly wouldnt be clearing any of those debuffs or resetting any skills. The only teams i seen minato work so far is brute force whale teams that go first and have so much raw stats that they win through raw weight of stats rather than anything else. I think there is a reason we havent seen much of minato in cross server since he just isnt that good as whales with little combat experience against people of their own power make him out to be. This post was last edited by Belerephon at 2017-5-26 00:19
Since she reveres Minato so much i wanted to give her something at least. And as for wind mains skill resetting...that's the main idea. Like you I faced a number of minatos. And unless they were extremely p2w buffed, they were wholly disappointing given the price tag. XD
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On 2017-05-26 00:53:07Show this Author Only
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Just for Lucy Dead minato in arena turn 1 similar power against double SSR team his minato attacked first :
And another one minato went first but i had more overall init. People buy those SSR ninja and make teams with just them with no idea how to actually play because they are used to bully noobs on their own servers with their wallets. Nobody puts squishy attackers into first position this is the whole reason why attack tanks like sage naruto are a thing.


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On 2017-05-26 01:19:58Show this Author Only
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  • LucyKelvin On 2017-05-25 23:10:26
  • the sakura event gives 1 minato frag for 45 likeliness , that's 18k ingots/coupons for 80 frags
ah yes, sorry, forgot about the Sakura event :lol
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On 2017-05-26 01:38:07Show this Author Only
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  • Normandy On 2017-05-26 00:13:06
  • I'll make it easy for you. Looking at the team you just put out, round 1 temari eats acupuncture. Round 2 wind main is skill attacked into acu and or immobile. Maybe poison here or ignite there. Your game is already in tatters.
you say that when you haven't faced it yourself, there is always a counter for every team there is no perfect team LOL
you think i'll just face people who have exactly that to beat my team on turn 1 in arena?
it depends on your own if you see there's no chance of using temari's skill on turn 2 first then you can just go ahead and use minato's mystery on someone to kill him off first and not aim to kill all four of them units on the second turn as easily as it was with the other teams.
Also what are the chances of the acupuncture causing ninja => mei to be in the middle because clearly she's the only one who can cause acupuncture with standard, and there are not very high chances of her to do much when i have clones in front row OR the blindness to 3 ninja on turn 1
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On 2017-05-26 01:40:51Show this Author Only
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  • Belerephon On 2017-05-26 00:53:07
  • Just for Lucy Dead minato in arena turn 1 similar power against double SSR team his minato attacked first :
    And another one minato went first but i had more overall init. People buy those SSR ninja and make teams with just them with no idea how to actually play because they are used to bully noobs on their own servers with their wallets. Nobody puts squishy attackers into first position this is the whole reason why attack tanks like sage naruto are a thing.


    This post was last edited by Belerephon at 2017-5-26 01:15
and here is for you i won against blitz team like that too
even though my minato died turn 1 , temari killed them with two mysteries and a bunch of combos with the remaining ninjas , you got no acupuncture in that team , only iruka's interrupt which can't be faster if i have more init
and i have the barrier almost all of the time with onoki
and all of this is in arena so p2w stuff except init doesn't matter
This post was last edited by LucyKelvin at 2017-5-26 01:43
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On 2017-05-26 01:42:20Show this Author Only
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  • Normandy On 2017-05-26 00:23:04
  • Since she reveres Minato so much i wanted to give her something at least. And as for wind mains skill resetting...that's the main idea. Like you I faced a number of minatos. And unless they were extremely p2w buffed, they were wholly disappointing given the price tag. XD
"extremely p2w buffed" in case you didn't read i said i use this team in arena and init is all that counts which is p2w
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On 2017-05-26 01:42:29Show this Author Only
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  • Belerephon On 2017-05-26 00:53:07
  • Just for Lucy Dead minato in arena turn 1 similar power against double SSR team his minato attacked first :
    And another one minato went first but i had more overall init. People buy those SSR ninja and make teams with just them with no idea how to actually play because they are used to bully noobs on their own servers with their wallets. Nobody puts squishy attackers into first position this is the whole reason why attack tanks like sage naruto are a thing.


    This post was last edited by Belerephon at 2017-5-26 01:15
youre an idiot lmao
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On 2017-05-26 01:47:05Show this Author Only
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  • LucyKelvin On 2017-05-26 01:40:51
  • and here is for you i won against blitz team like that too
    even though my minato died turn 1 , temari killed them with two mysteries and a bunch of combos with the remaining ninjas , you got no acupuncture in that team , only iruka's interrupt which can't be faster if i have more init
    and i have the barrier almost all of the time with onoki
    and all of this is in arena so p2w stuff except init doesn't matter
    This post was last edited by LucyKelvin at 2017-5-26 01:43
And so why use minato in first place when dies turn 1 when you could use a more useful ninja instead ? He is flashy and cool i accept that but he just isnt that good. This post was last edited by Belerephon at 2017-5-26 01:48
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On 2017-05-26 01:49:29Show this Author Only
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  • Belerephon On 2017-05-26 01:47:05
  • And so why use minato in first place when dies turn 1 when you could use a more useful ninja instead ? He is flashy and cool i accept that but he just isnt that good. This post was last edited by Belerephon at 2017-5-26 01:48
because that is the only team that can kill minato turn 1 Lmfao
any other mains except fire/lightning and its an instant win in 2 rounds
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On 2017-05-26 01:50:28Show this Author Only
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  • LucyKelvin On 2017-05-26 01:49:29
  • because that is the only team that can kill minato turn 1 Lmfao
    any other mains except fire/lightning and its an instant win in 2 rounds
    This post was last edited by LucyKelvin at 2017-5-26 01:50
Dude that team is meta atm outside of cancer whale team its like the most common team that is used atm thats why its foolish putting any attacker like that not just minato in first slot.
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On 2017-05-26 01:52:42Show this Author Only
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  • Belerephon On 2017-05-26 01:50:28
  • Dude that team is meta atm outside of cancer whale team its like the most common team that is used atm thats why its foolish putting any attacker like that not just minato in first slot.
LOL i'm at a loss for words here
There is absolutely no ninja that can freaking not die on turn 1 from that team
let's hear what ninja you might wanna put in first which will not die from them
minato actually dodges 1 attack and he has a chance to dodge more, the only other ninja that you might wanna put in first is kimimaro but he will ALSO die on turn 1
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On 2017-05-26 01:55:07Show this Author Only
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  • LucyKelvin On 2017-05-26 01:52:42
  • LOL i'm at a loss for words here
    There is absolutely no ninja that can freaking not die on turn 1 from that team
    let's hear what ninja you might wanna put in first which will not die from them
    minato actually dodges 1 attack and he has a chance to dodge more, the only other ninja that you might wanna put in first is kimimaro but he will ALSO die on turn 1
Well ther are variety of teams that counter that by going along lower line with main line like mabui ten ten mei and doing line water main clone in 2nd line so the blitz attacks 2ndary ninja. Kimmimaro Hinata etc etc.
There are a lot of teams that use positioning to counter first turn blitz using danzo in 2nd to put revive before counter. Or drawing Interrupt with another skill then using danzo. Fire main can immobilise Iruka who doesnt get root etc. This post was last edited by Belerephon at 2017-5-26 01:58
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On 2017-05-26 01:58:31Show this Author Only
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  • Belerephon On 2017-05-26 01:55:07
  • Well ther are variety of teams that counter that by going along lower line with main line like mabui ten ten mei and doing line water main clone in 2nd line so the blitz attacks 2ndary ninja. Kimmimaro Hinata etc etc.
    There are a lot of teams that use positioning to counter first turn blitz using danzo in 2nd to put revive before counter. Or drawing Interrupt with another skill then using danzo. Fire main can immobilise Iruka who doesnt get root etc. This post was last edited by Belerephon at 2017-5-26 01:58
and you're suggesting i use kimimaro and hinata in front of edo ninjas/kage ninjas to counter them
nice,i doubt anyone needs to know what hinata does , people get her on the first/second day of server release.
but like i mentioned earlier, you should go use the hinata team in arena and wish for a blitz team to win lel
nothing is that easy , you can just move your blitz team at the bottom to counter the water meta with mabui
mabui dead turn 1 and its a win
and you can win even if you dont have barrier
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On 2017-05-26 02:00:04Show this Author Only
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  • LucyKelvin On 2017-05-26 01:58:31
  • and you're suggesting i use kimimaro and hinata in front of edo ninjas/kage ninjas to counter them
    nice,i doubt anyone needs to know what hinata does , people get her on the first/second day of server release.
    but like i mentioned earlier, you should go use the hinata team in arena and wish for a blitz team to win lel
    nothing is that easy , you can just move your blitz team at the bottom to counter the water meta with mabui
    mabui dead turn 1 and its a win
    and you can win even if you dont have barrier
    This post was last edited by LucyKelvin at 2017-5-26 01:59 This post was last edited by LucyKelvin at 2017-5-26 02:01
Im not suggesting you use anything im saying you can counter blitz if you wanted with variety of teams and you are overselling minato hokage thats all. You c*e whatever team you like but he isnt worth 18-20k coupons. This post was last edited by Belerephon at 2017-5-26 02:04
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On 2017-05-26 02:04:33Show this Author Only
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People should know that the Kage Minato in China is already buffed. His mystery now has interrupt and he can gain 9% attack together with 12% combo rate every time he does his passive strike (which is max 2 per round) just like how Jonin Minato can gain the same by using his chase. They are very likely except Jonin can mystery every round (but his mystery only deal damage to 2 units), can chase while Kage can hit 9 people with his mystery and can tag more (which equal more damage and better against heavy SA team).

Right now Kage Minato is by no mean weak. He is strong just as his super rare tier and the 18k cost. But considering the heavy root meta right now he is not as good as other super rare like SSK SSN, Hidan2,... So if you're a weaker player who hasn't got a meta team for pvp you should not invest in him.

The reason he is put to stand in the front is because he has the cancer dodge just like Kurama Naruto or Shisui. He can guarantee to use his mystery round 2 as a o1 carry without the fear of getting controlled. Of course he is weak if you don't have any clone to protect him from blitz though.

And also @Lucy having the higher total ini in arena is the reason you're getting so many win with that team. How high is your total ini? Can you try doing arena again with 75% of you current total ini? I'm sure there will be a huge different.
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On 2017-05-26 02:05:42Show this Author Only
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well, you clearly don't have minato since you're saying that about him, he is even better the jonin minato released later but then again
some ninjas are better with some teams while some are better with others
but fourth hokage minato is generally better than him
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On 2017-05-26 02:06:26Show this Author Only
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  • LucyKelvin On 2017-05-26 01:52:42
  • LOL i'm at a loss for words here
    There is absolutely no ninja that can freaking not die on turn 1 from that team
    let's hear what ninja you might wanna put in first which will not die from them
    minato actually dodges 1 attack and he has a chance to dodge more, the only other ninja that you might wanna put in first is kimimaro but he will ALSO die on turn 1
i would use hiruzen instead of minato, enma tanks a hit or 2 and if they kill hiruzen he just takes one of them with him, plus he doesnt need tag to aoe the whole field and his myst hits just as hard
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On 2017-05-26 02:07:45Show this Author Only
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  • RyoheiYagyuu On 2017-05-26 02:04:33
  • People should know that the Kage Minato in China is already buffed. His mystery now has interrupt and he can gain 9% attack together with 12% combo rate every time he does his passive strike (which is max 2 per round) just like how Jonin Minato can gain the same by using his chase. They are very likely except Jonin can mystery every round (but his mystery only deal damage to 2 units), can chase while Kage can hit 9 people with his mystery and can tag more (which equal more damage and better against heavy SA team).

    Right now Kage Minato is by no mean weak. He is strong just as his super rare tier and the 18k cost. But considering the heavy root meta right now he is not as good as other super rare like SSK SSN, Hidan2,... So if you're a weaker player who hasn't got a meta team for pvp you should not invest in him.

    The reason he is put to stand in the front is because he has the cancer dodge just like Kurama Naruto or Shisui. He can guarantee to use his mystery round 2 as a o1 carry without the fear of getting controlled. Of course he is weak if you don't have any clone to protect him from blitz though.

    And also @Lucy having the higher total ini in arena is the reason you're getting so many win with that team. How high is your total ini? Can you try doing arena again with 75% of you current total ini? I'm sure there will be a huge different.
i mentioned that i have higher initiative, that is ofcource the reason i'm winning but that guy appaerntly says minato is not worth it, i'm just saying that
obviously taking out initiative is the last thing poeple would do if they want to win in arena
minato is very strong and he gets even stronger after breakthrough
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On 2017-05-26 02:09:13Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-05-26 02:06:26
  • i would use hiruzen instead of minato, enma tanks a hit or 2 and if they kill hiruzen he just takes one of them with him, plus he doesnt need tag to aoe the whole field and his myst hits just as hard
yeah, that is something i can agree with but the only reason i use this team is to quickly kill all ninjas on round 2 that includes all teams that cannot take their tags off turn 1 or turn 2
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On 2017-05-26 02:13:44Show this Author Only
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  • LucyKelvin On 2017-05-26 02:07:45
  • i mentioned that i have higher initiative, that is ofcource the reason i'm winning but that guy appaerntly says minato is not worth it, i'm just saying that
    obviously taking out initiative is the last thing poeple would do if they want to win in arena
    minato is very strong and he gets even stronger after breakthrough
Thats not what im saying at all Im saying that minato isnt worth more than 200 coupons per frag so i wouldnt pay more than 16k for him and if you are saving for a 1st super rare there are better super rares you can buy than him. So if you want one id wait till he is cheaper.
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