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On 2017-05-25 15:32:49Show this Author Only
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can someone post some pics ? like whats in shop of sakura event where u trading likes for items... and more stuff ofc, thanks
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On 2017-05-25 15:36:02Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-05-25 06:01:32
  • I'm not "following" the backlash wave because... well... I was there before the backlash was even a thing.

    here is an interesting post of mine: dah post

    Notice how it's before the sage poll was made? yeah... I suspected #2 was going to be a thing before it happened.

    To be clear, I am against Xserver sage, it's just that I have good rational reasons as opposed to certain thoughtless sky-dive to conclusion reasons.
    I never said I was smart, all I said was that some people aren't based on what they said. There is a HUGE difference there. I mean, I take no pleasure by having more money than the homeless(well, the REAL homeless...) so...

    4. I'm a programmer, so I know exactly how easy it is to change such things. I should be able to implement all 3 changes that I proposed between 20 minutes and a day, depending on how it is coded (assuming it's written in a commonly used language). That said, as far as the "increase reward goes", I can only guarantee increased reward for the top 3 in that time frame to at least preserve the reward per person quota. It may or may not be easy to increase the number of reward recipient and even if I did, changing the interface to make it "look nice" would take far longer. That said, someone did have an awesome idea: ramp up the "winning side" reward. That would work perfectly and probably far easier, just substitute one item for another and everything would be fine, in interface change required (thou it might need to be changed in a couple place to make everything line up.)
    Algorithm... there aren't enough player in the game to make "algorithms" a thing. Given the small data size, the simplest, brute force and inefficient algorithm can be used unless the servers are running on commodore 64s. And frankly I don't intend to change the "algorithm" just the variables.
    Well, at least that's what I'd expect if they follow any kind of good coding practice where sage is its own "thing" that have its own section of code (and preferably the player placement in its own method/function). It would indeed be difficult if everything is in one code blob....

    In any case, they probably aren't going to change the code because Oasis can't and the devs won't. Thou seeing how most lesser ptws are going to be *er punched in section 1 sage, maybe they'll rage quit and that will convince them to rethink their strategy. But maybe the arms race of top ptw will cover that, whoever knows.
If you have 20 sprints worth of backlog to implement in order to catch up to the master branch ( China ), how you are going to plan and prioritize issues that are not on the board ? Like new ideas that don't exist in the master branch ?
If it were up to me, I would skip versions 2.1 and 3.0 and go straight to 4.0 parity 1:1.But these decisions have different business values and have to follow a certain workflow.
Don't know how big the team is either to do a full release in 1 week time ( that's fast for production ).
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On 2017-05-25 15:38:29Show this Author Only
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  • Normandy On 2017-05-25 14:35:32
  • LoooL. I couldn't even fathom a reply to acer1's attempt at an explanation (where to start). I think I'm beginning to see where the problem lies. I think there is clearly a cultural disconnect here. There is a way people in the West see things. And there is a way people who grew up in the East see things too. Anytime the mods get in here to communicate to us you get the distinct feel that we're on a trip to Feudal Japan or Imperial China. Heck, if more than 20% of this game's working staff is Western or European, you can freely call me a monkey's uncle.
I wish I could agree with you, but I'm from the East- born, raised and educated. I also play in HK servers. But to my knowledge, there is not much in the culture to account for this.

I'm hoping its more of a language disconnect where things just get lost in translation..
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On 2017-05-25 15:52:13Show this Author Only
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  • lexsan On 2017-05-25 15:36:02
  • If you have 20 sprints worth of backlog to implement in order to catch up to the master branch ( China ), how you are going to plan and prioritize issues that are not on the board ? Like new ideas that don't exist in the master branch ?
    If it were up to me, I would skip versions 2.1 and 3.0 and go straight to 4.0 parity 1:1.But these decisions have different business values and have to follow a certain workflow.
    Don't know how big the team is either to do a full release in 1 week time ( that's fast for production ).
Skipping 2.1 and 3.0 and go straight to 4.0? Not gonna happen. Oasis needs to milk 2.1 and 3.0 as much as they can before going to 4.0.
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On 2017-05-25 15:53:43Show this Author Only
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  • BobuSuzuki On 2017-05-24 22:51:40
  • While many people don't want cross server sage implemented, in my merged servers it has gotten extremely boring with the same people winning over and over again which has resulted in a large number of active players not doing it anymore. It will be nice to finally see fields with more than 10 people in them. Hopefully they won't mess it up like they did with arena.
Why? Do you think will be much different? The first field, the one with the top75 whales, will have maybe some changes in the top3, but others field will have always the same winner, as far as his power doesn't increase too much.
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On 2017-05-25 16:00:56Show this Author Only
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  • Hasahyo On 2017-05-25 15:32:49
  • can someone post some pics ? like whats in shop of sakura event where u trading likes for items... and more stuff ofc, thanks
The 1st one is the Colour Balloons. The 2nd one is the Limited Ninja Recruitment. The 3rd one is the Sakura event.
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On 2017-05-25 16:06:27Show this Author Only
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That sage Naruto though...57/80 frags for him hopefully I can get to 70 frags before event ends.
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On 2017-05-25 16:09:10Show this Author Only
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  • JeremyKohBS On 2017-05-25 16:00:56
  • The 1st one is the Colour Balloons. The 2nd one is the Limited Ninja Recruitment. The 3rd one is the Sakura event.
thank you, one last question, whats that pack in sakura shop ? next to keys. thanks again
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On 2017-05-25 16:09:21Show this Author Only
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  • Amaru_S199 On 2017-05-25 15:38:29
  • I wish I could agree with you, but I'm from the East- born, raised and educated. I also play in HK servers. But to my knowledge, there is not much in the culture to account for this.

    I'm hoping its more of a language disconnect where things just get lost in translation..
I agree, I think a lot of it is a language/translation issue where ideas aren't getting conveyed properly. Looking at Acer1's response:

"the only known discounts are from the platinum recharge event.
Further details will have to wait until the maintenance has been completed."
-Answering a question about discount vouchers for daily shop. The only source of these discounts they know about is from the platinum recharge event, but maybe there is another source they don't know about, so wait until the event is live to see.

"on the cross server SWB i hope players don't jump into conclusions without even having the events implemented yet."
-Pretty self explanatory and reasonable. Wait until after trying it out to pass judgement on it.

That being said, patches will have to be implemented then only any issues / improvements that is needed can be identified, proposed and fixed especially something related to the cross server. We have duly noted some of the suggestions made by players/GLs and will ensure it is communicated across the team.
-Continuation of the sentiment in the last statement. New content, in this case cross server sage, can only be fixed/tweaked after they see how it runs in a live setting. They take the feedback they get into consideration (whether or not some people belive this is another issue, but they say they listen). Note that listening to feedback isn't the same as doing whatever the players ask.


To top it off this is on my personal opinion, the poll itself bring two sides of the community voices and claiming that the team doesn't listen to the community at all is a bit harsh since there has been improvement in event rewards and other things,
-Claiming that they never listen is unfair because the poll had significant amounts of votes on both sides, and community feedback has effected change in the past.

even the existence of this forum defy that statement in the first place.
-The fact that there exsists a place (the forum) where people can express their views and opinions on the game and be heard by game officials counters the claim that the team does not listen to the community. This is a factual statement (unless you don't belive they listen to the forums at all, which is a separate issue).

Lets have our patches and workout the fix to any problem arises. Thank you.
-Let the changes settle a bit and if there are issues they'll try to fix them. But they need to see how it runs first.

I don't think anything there doesn't make sense, people just gloss over parts of it or disagree with certain claims (like listening to feedback). But as mentioned earlier, listening to feedback =/= doing whatever the loudest/largest group of people on the forum wants.
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On 2017-05-25 16:09:44Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2017-05-25 16:06:27
  • That sage Naruto though...57/80 frags for him hopefully I can get to 70 frags before event ends.
Do you have 1500 coupons? If you do, you'll definitely get him! Just aim for 1350 coupons before next Wednesday midnight. You should be save with 1350 after deducting the free keys.
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On 2017-05-25 16:10:55Show this Author Only
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  • Hasahyo On 2017-05-25 16:09:10
  • thank you, one last question, whats that pack in sakura shop ? next to keys. thanks again
Level 4 Magatama Pack. :)
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On 2017-05-25 16:13:12Show this Author Only
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am i the only one who thinks that cursed hidan is pretty good?how many points was it for each frag in the last limited recruitment?
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On 2017-05-25 16:17:10Show this Author Only
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  • ThatOneGuy3.0 On 2017-05-25 16:13:12
  • am i the only one who thinks that cursed hidan is pretty good?how many points was it for each frag in the last limited recruitment?
55 points per fragment previously... now its 60 points
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On 2017-05-25 16:22:05Show this Author Only
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See you in SWB :)
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On 2017-05-25 16:32:22Show this Author Only
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Anyone knows what's inside daily special through those 7 days?
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On 2017-05-25 16:34:02Show this Author Only
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  • sk1ba On 2017-05-25 16:32:22
  • Anyone knows what's inside daily special through those 7 days?
its stated in the update
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On 2017-05-25 16:38:07Show this Author Only
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  • Sonny92 On 2017-05-25 16:34:02
  • its stated in the update
Im blind, my bad. Thanks, appreciate it :)
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On 2017-05-25 16:39:52Show this Author Only
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They really are going strong with SN rebates. Well that's a good thing.

PraiseLuka, fair enough. I'm also a programmer (though without too much experience) and honestly don't think that the game was coded in such a smooth and logical manner. Either that or Oasis devs do not have the authority to tweak the code at all. Otherwise i don't see why oh why they wouldn't implement so many obvious fixes that the community has been claiming for. The latter option would raise a bigger issue which is that each time a suggestion thread has been posted in the customer service section the mods say that they give the information to the devs and see if it can be fixed/implemented. If Oasis can't touch the code then it raises a whole other number of issues. So i give them the benefit of the doubt and assume the original code is not properly written with object having a class and a set of attributes.

The way they announced corss server SWB as if it as just another thing is undefendable (not sure if this is english). Would it have killed them to make a statement saying:"

Hey we did a poll and you voted no. But we are forced to implement this. We changed things so that it can be enjoyable taking into account your suggestions and concerns. Give us feedback after trying it and se how it goes".

4 sentences that would have calmed over 50% of the people currently coplaining, just by the fact that they aknowledged their opinion. This is basic PR.

However it seems that Oasis doesn't think that a PR department is necessary for a company (or Tencent. looking at the way other Tencent properties, ie Qidan international, goes about their business in the chinese webnovel market it may very well come from them).
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On 2017-05-25 16:46:15Show this Author Only
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  • Armand_ On 2017-05-25 16:39:52
  • They really are going strong with SN rebates. Well that's a good thing.

    PraiseLuka, fair enough. I'm also a programmer (though without too much experience) and honestly don't think that the game was coded in such a smooth and logical manner. Either that or Oasis devs do not have the authority to tweak the code at all. Otherwise i don't see why oh why they wouldn't implement so many obvious fixes that the community has been claiming for. The latter option would raise a bigger issue which is that each time a suggestion thread has been posted in the customer service section the mods say that they give the information to the devs and see if it can be fixed/implemented. If Oasis can't touch the code then it raises a whole other number of issues. So i give them the benefit of the doubt and assume the original code is not properly written with object having a class and a set of attributes.

    The way they announced corss server SWB as if it as just another thing is undefendable (not sure if this is english). Would it have killed them to make a statement saying:"

    Hey we did a poll and you voted no. But we are forced to implement this. We changed things so that it can be enjoyable taking into account your suggestions and concerns. Give us feedback after trying it and se how it goes".

    4 sentences that would have calmed over 50% of the people currently coplaining, just by the fact that they aknowledged their opinion. This is basic PR.

    However it seems that Oasis doesn't think that a PR department is necessary for a company (or Tencent. looking at the way other Tencent properties, ie Qidan international, goes about their business in the chinese webnovel market it may very well come from them).
Stating it that way is like telling someone "My * boss is forcing me to do this, but I'd like to help you so I did what I could." I'm sure that would make people feel better, but they might get in trouble. Just throwing the people above them under the bus like that isn't always that simple.
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On 2017-05-25 16:50:26Show this Author Only
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  • JeremyKohBS On 2017-05-25 14:47:46
  • Just had Cursed Hidan last week, and this week Cursed Hidan is in Limited Ninja Recruitment at about 157 coupons per Frag. Is now or never. He ain't gonna appear in Lucky Board next week! 3 weeks in a row? Never!
BRO! How come he is there without being in Strong Ninjas? I was hoping we'd see him next week in Lucky Board, but I guess it will be Nagato, Mei now. I'll just grab him!
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