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Which one is better? 2*gnw or 5*standard?
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On 2017-04-30 10:17:29Show this Author Only
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for me the standard one, GNW is too soft
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On 2017-04-30 10:34:58Show this Author Only
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Ones better offensively, the other defensively.

GNW Hinata can provide an offset blitz and some defensive insurance of that turn. However, without that stacking defense/res passive, it makes her a lot squishier than her regular form.

As for her normal form, it's meant to be a defensive wall, which she provides best.
Her damage will mostly come from her chases.

It's really based on what you need and your playstyle.
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On 2017-04-30 11:29:40Show this Author Only
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i chose to keep my 5* standard over 2* gnw simply for power. I use hinata as my tank in RoW team and utilize her chases. Obviously the 2* is going to be weaker than the 5*, which is 680 power difference. Thats why I've kept my standard.
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On 2017-04-30 16:53:07Show this Author Only
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  • Tobei On 2017-04-30 10:34:58
  • Ones better offensively, the other defensively.

    GNW Hinata can provide an offset blitz and some defensive insurance of that turn. However, without that stacking defense/res passive, it makes her a lot squishier than her regular form.

    As for her normal form, it's meant to be a defensive wall, which she provides best.
    Her damage will mostly come from her chases.

    It's really based on what you need and your playstyle.
I agree with what you said, although I would like to add that I think GNW Hinata partially compensates for being relative squishy with her "Not the end" passive. First time she is about to land on 0 HP she comes back with 60% of her original HP or so which does make her pretty resilient on the battlefield (since she would effectively have a total of 160% of her base HP). Although, I have a feeling that this passive won't trigger if she is somehow immobilized or chaos-ed.
As far as her mistery is concerned, from what I have tested so far it kinda seems to block standard attacks as efficiently as normal Hinata's, which would make them similarly tanky in round 1 when it is used in most of the cases. Their difference in tankiness here will be seen only if a combo is triggered on her, with, for example, Sage Naruto's attack.
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On 2017-04-30 18:53:51Show this Author Only
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Honestly I like GNW Hinata even more just due to the fact you can get all her chases off herself unlike normal Hinata with a higher chance of having a chase starting off her standard instead of relying on a summon or another ninja to cause repulse giving you more options.
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On 2017-04-30 18:54:27Show this Author Only
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  • SenjuMusashi On 2017-04-30 16:53:07
  • I agree with what you said, although I would like to add that I think GNW Hinata partially compensates for being relative squishy with her "Not the end" passive. First time she is about to land on 0 HP she comes back with 60% of her original HP or so which does make her pretty resilient on the battlefield (since she would effectively have a total of 160% of her base HP). Although, I have a feeling that this passive won't trigger if she is somehow immobilized or chaos-ed.
    As far as her mistery is concerned, from what I have tested so far it kinda seems to block standard attacks as efficiently as normal Hinata's, which would make them similarly tanky in round 1 when it is used in most of the cases. Their difference in tankiness here will be seen only if a combo is triggered on her, with, for example, Sage Naruto's attack.
Actually there is more to it besides what you said, which is correct.

To start, 2 star tanks aren't the greatest of options since everyone will target them in auto combat and they will die faster, which in case the tank is a linker in your combo will reduce your combos a lot, and in this particular case loose the acupuncture.

Her passive that gives 60% life has 1 problem, it will trigger no matter the status effects on her, but if she "dies" mid combo, the combo will keep going on her and takes the second part of her health as well. This happens because she doesn't actually die and come back, she just gets a 60% heal when her life reaches 0 for the first time.
So its actually possible, if opponent combo is strong enough that it will take the 160% life with one go. And even if it doesn't debuffs like poison, ignition and so on, will still remain on her for the normal duration since she didn't actually died.

This 2 things combined make using her at 2 stars a high risk, even as a 3 star, now get her to 4-5 stars and by god use her since the 3 standards when using the mystery (that will do repulse instead of knockdown like the regular version), plus the defensive buff and the extra dps will make her amazing.
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On 2017-05-01 22:18:24Show this Author Only
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  • Test Ninja On 2017-04-30 18:54:27
  • Actually there is more to it besides what you said, which is correct.

    To start, 2 star tanks aren't the greatest of options since everyone will target them in auto combat and they will die faster, which in case the tank is a linker in your combo will reduce your combos a lot, and in this particular case loose the acupuncture.

    Her passive that gives 60% life has 1 problem, it will trigger no matter the status effects on her, but if she "dies" mid combo, the combo will keep going on her and takes the second part of her health as well. This happens because she doesn't actually die and come back, she just gets a 60% heal when her life reaches 0 for the first time.
    So its actually possible, if opponent combo is strong enough that it will take the 160% life with one go. And even if it doesn't debuffs like poison, ignition and so on, will still remain on her for the normal duration since she didn't actually died.

    This 2 things combined make using her at 2 stars a high risk, even as a 3 star, now get her to 4-5 stars and by god use her since the 3 standards when using the mystery (that will do repulse instead of knockdown like the regular version), plus the defensive buff and the extra dps will make her amazing.
Yup. You're right. Just hope we will see her in events enough times to actually be able to upgrade her. I would rather not use scrolls for that.
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On 2017-05-02 14:37:10Show this Author Only
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  • SenjuMusashi On 2017-05-01 22:18:24
  • Yup. You're right. Just hope we will see her in events enough times to actually be able to upgrade her. I would rather not use scrolls for that.
I already fought someone with her in Matsuri. I thought she was going to assassinate single target, one of my ninjas with her amazing high combo that caught me off guard for seconds, but that was nope.

Andddd I don't like her at all, in my opinion she's too squishy, sadly I one-shotted her with her passive "not the end". I like the original more. I feel like she's more useful in general and as a bait.
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