Kakashi Kimono should Kamui him out. Or GNW obito. If he has 30& less power than you, Hiruzen Hokage should also work nicely.

And yea, most meta ninjas seem to have no strategy involved.GNW Orochimaru and Chant Jirayia both are pretty skill less ninjas, Just have to figure out how to overcome them. Most tend to have one really big weakness.

Remember Itachi's words: there's a weakness to every jutsu... or something like that xD

Obito gnw didnt work vs shisui,idk if it was a bug or smth but it failed to vanish him

I think he dodges also, check his bt

btw can extreme chaos be used on Shisui?

Guys most people are using the passive where he cancel debuff and get another standard attack! That mean shisui got lv3 immunity like those guys in infinite illusion so no he c'ant be controlled unless they bring irremovable chaos,immobile,dream

Unfortunately there's no counter other than another shisui sus

Take him off the field with GNW Obito or Kakashi Kimono. No Shisui, no problem. Don't waste time with people who think there are free-win ninjas. Gaara was once OP because there wasn't even a term "super-armor" so it was hard to beat him. Then super-armor break debuff came, immune ninjas was once a problem then came immune-removal debuff. Edo Madara's chakra succ left people hopeless and then came "keep a minimum amount of chakra" buff. Long story short, once they release something op, they let people to enjoy it for a while until they release the counter strat later.

Guys... are you trolling or talking out of ur ... ? What Kakashi Kimono removing? Shisui can't be debuffed like 6p Pain so what debuff are you going to apply on him dude? Typical forum experts, saw ninja only on youtube, has no idea how he works but first to comment.

As for Obito it's plain impossible as well, you are dead round1 (at least your backline most of the time is) and round 2 unless guy has 0 IQ he just kills this time backline for sure or to be safe locks Obito mystery (not to mention that you have to trigger Shisui's dodge first too yeah good luck with this idea) so your perfect easy counters to "everything has a counter" simply don't work.

FelineSeven is sadly right,

this time there is no counter to Sus Shisui. He is so broken that they covered everything. There are only 2 ways right now to win vs somewhat equal power Shisui with out using him yourself:

1) BT Danzo Izanagi 1shot team (needs strong backline so with hidden buff shisui cant easly lock your mystery r2)

2) Base Hiruzen with pos1 Edo Zabuza who at least can do something with his own multiple standard attacks since we cant use mystery at all.

Special reward to Teemonly, trying to sound smart with 0 knowledge about the game always brings good laugh.

Yeah that is what i was trying go explain! He can't be control unless they bring irremovable control

Our best way to counter him right now is with fear and irremovable blindness from ronin zabuza!

Or to steal his standard attack with summer minato or again ronin zabuza ! Pretty hard

Till now i have a pretty ok winrate aginst shisui. Around 50%.

Team: indra, oro gnw, jiraiya toad.

Haha, those are pritty common everyday ninjas to come around xD, f2p friendly so to say

Regretfully Ronin Zabuza doesn't stop multiple attacks, so even if you survive round 1 you will be quite drained. Zabuza Edo can't heal cause he'll get irremovable flames and can't dodge so he'll get probably controlled.

Sasuke - he'll get super armour suppressed and probably controlled in round 2. Not sure if you get 100 chakra if his mystery can be also locked or not.

I think Kurenai kimono'mystery can give you and edge so you get in round 2 with full health.

Shisui has to be nerfed at least his mystrery that you recover 50% life and remove unavoidable.

If you have him just try him, don't care about ignite or enemy control. LM gives protection vs basic one and your Zabuza (if your pos1 is stacked) kills enemy backline before they can drop linked chase combo anyway. VS like you said 30% weaker Shisui setups that can beat you now Zabuza will win. There is no other reliable setup, its as good as you can get.

Indra, oro and jirayia works only in arena (in arena he is not a problem anyway) so that's not a solution at all, you will get absolutly rekt with those 3 in normal fight

For me my Tam with Indra works good. Arena or Not. As Long as the enemy hasnt more BP.

But i have 200k BP. Dont know how it will work for higher BP

Thats probably why, at your power pos1 ninja are not stacked yet compared to backline so Shisui is not deadly 1shotting machine. When he has 20k+ more injury than backline ninjas his few standards are enaugh to instantly ruin your day round 1.

EDIT^ Destroying backline can be done by other ninjas as well but Shisui ability to lock enemy mystery and in general dueling potential is too broken to come back against that in a fight. 6p Naruto nuked backlines too but you could come back from that with Madara etc, vs Shisui there is no coming back xd

Wouldn't irremovable paralysis go a long way in beating Shisui even with the breakthroughs?

I don't get it - stack up Edo Zabuza in p1?

If the other guy has gengetsu with clone that you are done also.