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On 2021-06-12 19:29:59Show All PostsDescending Order
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Hey, you know, when it's time to throw rocks at the dev team for the trillion mistakes or the trillion things wrong with the game god knows i've been the first one to do so.
I mean since Six Path Naruto's BT my time invested playing this game was easily cut by half, because at the moment the only way to effectively survive this meta is joining it and I'll rather quit before doing that.

But I think is just as important to give positive feedback when it's due and i think now it's one of those moments. Let me explain why.
I've been playing this game since a little earlier of 2.0, and it was more charming back then. Why? Because everyone who started playing the game would start recruiting story ninjas and then we would all put our eyes in the treasure ninjas. I remember everyone super hyped making their different op lineups and having fun with them. There wasn't a single ninja team dominating the whole PVP scene. We had swordsmen, we got jinchurikis, we got edo tensei, we got akatsuki, secret jutsu & konoha buffed teams... lots of different combinations.

One of the worst things that happened to the game was that treasure ninjas stopped having any relevance at all, not even Susanoo Itachi, Tendo or Ay Raikage have any use whatsoever nowadays, so you either farm cp for 4 months (if you are f2p) and buy a meta ninja or you're dominated by the players who do it.
While Edo Roshi's BT was absolutely insufficient to give treasure ninjas enough relevance to be back to the game i'm pretty confident that Edo Sasori & Gengetsu breakthroughs will. Ironically the best of their BT is that they're not completely OP, but they open a wide variety of lineups previously useless and give them a new use again.

I'm personally praying to God for this to be a spark of a new line of breakthroughs. Just imagine if Rasa will also get a proper BT, imagine if every single edo swordsman gets a nice BT, we will finally have dozens of fun possibilities at the time of building our lineups.
So with this in mind, well done dev team. If you've given a proper treatment to ninjas like Zetsu, Edo Sasori and Gengetsu just keep doing the same thing with the rest of the treasure ninjas, so especially F2P players get the chance of farming seal scrolls again and giving them a good use instead of forcing them to compete with players that will easily gain cp several times faster than them.

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On 2021-06-12 19:56:07Show All Posts
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  • The_X On 2021-06-12 19:50:37
  • edo yagura could had been naruto before naruto if he had here splash on his bt mystery as it was supposed (if you know what i mean *cough* cn *cough* )

Completely in agreement, he was weakened in our version for no reason.
On top of that, he could've been a better experience than naruto, because he would've been very strong without being completely godlike with infinite unmissable basic attack

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On 2021-06-13 16:34:10Show All Posts
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  • Darials On 2021-06-13 03:29:36
  • Considering Gengetsu is doing 16k on arena with proper buffs, yeah it will be fun.

When I saw he can one shot two ninjas in arena i was like wait what the hell... but after a while checking him out you realize he's very chakra dependent, so fields like Edo Madara's, Edo Minato's, Swimsuit Mai's really become a problem to him and let's not forget a pos2 control ninja or even Rin become a great threat to him.
So yeah really fun ninja if you make him a proper team which is how the game should work, having a cool 3 ninja composition, not having 1 ninja that is godlike and then adding a couple annoying ninja to make him even more troublesome.

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On 2021-06-13 16:59:21Show All Posts
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  • Indra火 On 2021-06-13 13:32:52
  • M*l I gotta say is that I cannot believe that theres a guy who thinks the same as I do, I mean when you find someone who would rather quit a game than join a meta slavatory group you just gotta appreciate the moment. Theres so many fun and enjoyable ninjas to use in this game and yet they choose to login into the game knowing they gonna fight the same exact teams they also have. Wheres the fun joining matsuri, sage, training grounds, knowing you are gonna get matched against 6p Naruto, Kakuzu and Rin... You cant tell me every freakin person there genuinely likes Naruto, they just be using him so they can turn their brains off and play. Its just so pathetic and sad how this game literally became so onesided. Props to you yet again my dude!

Hey! Respect to you too Indra ^^
Glad to see i'm not the only one who rejected this meta.

It's just as you stated, once everyone uses the same ninja it's not fun anymore. People forget that the goal of a gacha game like this is actually using your brain to set up a good lineup that can beat the others you find, not just saying "who's the strongest unit? this guy? okay boom got him yayy i'm strong". That is sad.

I did not breakthrough my Naruto and i will never do, because as i said earlier I've been around a while and i've seen this game with its players using different lineups within the same meta and it was really the best moment this game went through. If everyone uses the same then whoever is more stacked automatically wins.
Many players haven't been around as early as i've been, they don't know Kushina Habanero BT was specially designed to stop Six Path Naruto when it first came out.
In his first version he was already very strong and superior to most ninjas, we had to be given Kushina's BT to deal with him so it's really insane they made his BT that godlike.

How does it make sense that i have to build a whole lineup focused on stopping a single ninja? How is it any enjoyable fighting the same Naruto lineup in arena ranked and matsuri over and over? How is it fair that a 400k player can completely destroy a 600k player within 4 rounds if he's not using Naruto?
He got it all, infinite unmissable aoe scaling basic attack, crazy lifesteal, mistery every round, inmune to status, inmune to combo... come on now guys.
I personally like to use my brain and use ninjas that I liked in the anime, so I say a big NO to Naruto meta, even if it meant i fell behind in stuff like Nature Training and it became hell participating in any event.

Respect to you and every other player who endured this situation without giving in the easy way, we'll soon overcome that absurd ninja as we already did!

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On 2021-06-14 18:12:05Show All Posts
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Agree with Jak, it should be Edo Madara the one to put an end to the Naruto meta.
Gengetsu's BT will be implemented some months after that.

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On 2021-06-15 18:16:18Show All Posts
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With a proper team Gengetsu can be better p1 than Naruto but in any case that'll be up to us players, Gengetsu's BT hasn't been designed to counter Naruto.
I don't know about Edo Madara & Naruto together, i've seen Edo Madara work in chinese servers and most people turned to other support units instead keeping Naruto because all Naruto was doing was healing the enemy player's pos1 Edo Madara.

With the upcoming anniversary i'm gonna go ahead and predict lots of Edo Madara-Karin Taka/Tsunade Byakugou lineups. Surely Creation Kakuzu too.
I can't tell about the third ninja, it'll depend on what each of us prefer to do. We can make our pos1 stronger, we can go for a second supp, we can go for the cc ninja.. it'll depend on our prefered playstyle.

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On 2021-06-15 22:39:18Show All Posts
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  • The_X On 2021-06-15 20:12:22
  • ill predict 3rd ninja gonna be rin

    jokes aside im really curious how madara bt will impact the current meta

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On 2021-06-16 01:02:50Show All Posts
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Uhh let's hope it's not Rin

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On 2021-06-30 00:29:58Show All Posts
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I called it guys! Rasa's breakthrough has just been implemented in CN server !!
Please please pleaseeee let that mean that edo swordsmen will also get breakthroughs. Let all those treasure ninja return to the game!
Winter months & 2022 is looking good

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On 2021-06-30 20:29:25Show All Posts
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  • The_X On 2021-06-30 09:01:43
  • inb4 they arrive here 2030

Don't give them ideas

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On 2021-07-01 13:07:24Show All Posts
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Rasa barely got improved?
He got a half chakra cost inmunity removal mystery that can't miss, an interrupting low float chase that can't miss, a 20 combo shield & scaling disabling chase that can't miss and a decent res/def buff that will last until he dies.
That's a good improvement to me

I get what you say about seal scrolls and you're correct partially, my point of view is from a player that has been in the game a long time, so older players like myself will be able to start making fun & competent lineups straight away while new players will have their way to it. It's a natural thing though, back in my days nobody of us were given nothing, not even ninjas in fireworks, so expecting new players to start with something op from month 1 is a bad thing. Let them grow and learn the game with the base ninjas like we did.

It is very true that spenders will get new toys but eventually the f2p will as well. Think of it this way, a whale is going to defeat you just as easily with or without treasure ninjas. It doesn't matter what ninjas they use, they'll always have an advantaje over you because that's what they pay for.
So far a f2p had to save for months around 25k coupons to get a decent meta ninja and then would have to start from 0 and save again, now you can save coupons & save seal scrolls simuntaneously, eventually obtaining a great ninja from both sources. Since treasure ninjas have been useless for more than a year it is a fact that it's a good thing they're relevant again, they bring diversity to the game which is a thing the game nowadays lacks critically.

It is even better yet since each player will decide different ways to spend their seal scrolls, making the game undoubtedly more fun and interesting.
So cheer yourself up! We are in the path of a great improvement to the game

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On 2021-07-02 01:41:13Show All Posts
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  • The_X On 2021-07-01 20:11:56
  • i dont think whale vs f2p should be a debate in terms of ninjas and whatnot, whales can beat a f2p with standard team 7... what you guys should focus on are medium spenders, those are the ones that you can beat as f2p if you are smart

    as for new vs old players... the fundamental problem is that new players skip 3/4 of the game and get bored quickly... gets hashi at start, gets 1-2 free decent ninjas, runs thru most content without even thinking about strategy or what they do (since free ninjas better then what they can get at that point) then they manage to do a fuku and get naruto 4stars and bam, thats all the lifespan of a new player, gets bored starts on new server repeat, lol

Agree 100%

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