Finally, Naruto 6 open, generally nice event. Danzo where you?

Well, you painted how terrible Naruto is. I would like arguments why is he so bad.

man , chill already , there is nothing scary in naruto , he is still pretty much will be killed by blitz teams in 3v3 without any problems not casting even once , in 1v1 maybe battles will be long if there are naruto vs naruto , otherwise there will be nothing long , naruto has extreme damage from alternative myst , it will be over at worst at 3 round , besides : people , who managed to lead their way to naruto 4* without paying were playing long enough to make out good combos without teams of 1 naruto , and those who were paying would be having some donate **** anyway to win easily , dont you think so?

most of the "arguments" are nonsense, do not go from the first round .... so what? Madar GNW, mianto ET ...... do not go from the first round and whales that don't use them? Okay, it's still a useless argument, bye.

Your account is far too old for you to be that naive.

1: not mad, if you are one of the players who is so rubbish at this game you need to use the cheapest character we've been given, like I said, go for it. If you are boring its no skin of my teeth

2: "counter madara 10tails" seriously? madara is dead, has been for a long time, even if his price had dropped so he had become more common than 1 in every few thousand players having him he is outmatched by easily accessible pos 1's, he cant suppress super armour so excluding huge power difference kisame can handle him and shisui kimono with scaling init and immunity ignoring ignition can take madara no problem. Hell my cluster is the most plant/mod packed in the game, we have 5 different mods and 5 gls, (and those are just the ones that I am personally aware) of and do you know how many times I have seen madara 10t used in the past roughly 5 months? 3 times, thats it, i bet you there are more people in my cluster with madara than in any other cluster and they barely use him any more because with no interruption, no super armour suppresion, no immunity suppression, difficult to work with cd reduction chase and an unreliable method to reduce cd ( his standard needing to combo) there are many better choices for significantly lower cost

3: not that power has any relevance to a persons skill level ( every single mod is a perfect example of that, i have yet to witness a mod get so much as 1 win from their own ability, they only win because they know which metas to prepare for with heir company provided coupons) but I have just broke the 1mil mark

4: Nope, naruto has never needed good support and that wont change now. He was always teamed with kk gaara and bee sst because they can be helpful but they are not needed, again, you have been here too long to be that misinformed. This game everyone stacks pos1, you have to, its the only way to survive any hits, and naruto with his leech was loved by bad/boring players because he effectively makes team building irrelevant. You c*e the mentioned pre-set if you have zero imagination, but the result of the match depends on whose naruto is more stacked, not on whose 4th pos can hang in until maybe round 3 instead of dying in 1 or 2.

5: for your "point" about people not wanting his mystery but his multiple attack passive to make any sense everybody would need to currently be running Kakashi summer, multiple attacks, causes paralysis, super armour suppressing mystery, undodgeable interrupt mystery, self buffs, immunity, acupuncture causing chase. if you want a ninja with multiple attacks there is already a very good one. that passive is not the reason the sheep are champing at the bit to run Naruto again

Naruto after he became easier to recruit was the go-to carry for rubbish players, now with his breaks making him usable again the game will return to that same state. I am not asking you to agree with me, I dont care what strangers think and even if I could change your mind why would I want to?, but the undeniable truths of it all is that naruto is slow, he is boring, he is cheap, and he is used exclusively by people who cant play the game without an auto&leech combo carrying them. If thats what you want from a "game" no game play and drawn out matches you will enjoy things for a while, but myself and other people in this thread are not looking forward to the inevitable monotony coming

i agree with u danzo but this guy talk to much about cheap ninja that he forgot sosp is at same price as rest p1 ninjas but its true plazers these days dont care about puting effort making lineups for me supps matter thats why i prepared lineup for that current meta before sosp bt release. I used so long edo mina gnw madara and kakuzu akatsuki creation

Careful, they will say 5 rounds are too much. :P Doesn't matter that you can go 10 rounds vs Kimimaro, when he is all alone, nah... :P

BTW a beated a few trialed 6P Naruto today, and some of them beated me. (arena ranked mode) Neither of my matches lasted more than 3 rounds. He's standard gaining is annoying, but then again, Kakashi Kimono, Trialed Sage Kabuto etc....

Danzo and Puhlease are right about Naruto BT being a toxic ninja and that everyone will be able to get and just slap on any random team. And yeah the fights don't seem to be going 10 rnds again like they did before (because Naruto has scaling now), 3-5 rounds seems like the average if you are similar power, but like Danzo said that's way too long in SWB or TG.

But the issue is, you guys seem to be insinuating that only bad players will use BT SOSP because they want something easy and cheap, meanwhile smarter players will just use counter teams. Let me tell you, as an experienced player using probably one of the optimal f2p counter-SOSP teams (BT GNW Madara, BT Rinnesasuke, and BT Nagato), it's not even that good of a counter. In arena it's decent, I've won at least 50-60% of matches vs SOSP I've faced so far, but admittedly that number may be skewed because some of the opponents were running bad teams with him (like, him and 3 other traditionally "pos 1 ninja"). In regular pvp though, it's not even that good of a counter versus people around my own power. Someone around my power that I was beating easily just before the BT was releases can now wreck me. It has nothing to do with our skill.

I also hate having to run this strictly counter-SOSP team. Literally the whole team is built around beating, or, more realistically, checking, one ninja. Sure, there were meta teams and counter-teams in the past, but I would say it hasn't been this drastic for a while. The team I was using before was versatile enough to go up against Kisame teams, Shisui teams, Minato teams, etc. and win. This was true for other well-built teams using the major meta players in the pre-BT SOSP era, too. But now by putting everything into checking SOSP, my current team is now less effective against any formation that doesn't use him. Of course the choice to still use it is based on the reasoning that due to Naruto's wide accessibility more people will now be using him than not, but still, like I said, it's not even really a hard counter.

Until more ninjas from CN are released here, like NY Tobirama and BT for Izanagi Danzo, there really isn't a truly viable counter to SOSP for f2p other than a) getting him yourself, and then b) being faster and more stacked than your opponent. It's disingenuous to say that only bad/lazy players will use him when he has made the meta so centralizing that pretty much everyone who wants to meaningfully compete is forced to use him. I mean, players are beating people 200k, 300k+ above themselves just because they use him and the opponent doesn't. Sure, whales can keep using Kisame blitz teams in timed pvp events, but based on how I've just been seeing people 300k below their Kisame opponent win using SOSP, even that is kind of risky.

Ultimately, it's fair to hate him for slowing stuff down in pvp, for being cheap, etc., but what I hate him most for is how he's ruined our meta that used to be relatively diverse right before his BT introduction.