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i want a surprisingly annoying team... HELP

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On 2020-06-18 21:45:23Show this Author Only
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Here's an updated version of my ninjas

Can you guys really help... i really need a good lineup right now... I have all mains btw forget about the title of this thread

I have rhino and demon fox gold summon

Inoichi Yamanaka is added and im grinding sage naruto's frags

Any help would be appreciated!




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On 2020-06-20 04:49:26Show this Author Only
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You can go with this for now. The strategy of how to use this is similar to what I described here with a similar team: https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-47097-1.html?read_only=41885215481197725. Basically Minato fills a similar position as Guy does in that team. But I'd use him over Guy here because he combos very well off of Wind main's attacks and chases, and he will live her the life leech recovery.


Hope this helps, good luck!




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  • Korren On 2020-06-20 04:49:26
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    You can go with this for now. The strategy of how to use this is similar to what I described here with a similar team: https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-47097-1.html?read_only=41885215481197725. Basically Minato fills a similar position as Guy does in that team. But I'd use him over Guy here because he combos very well off of Wind main's attacks and chases, and he will live her the life leech recovery.


    Hope this helps, good luck!

Hello!

i tested your team a few days ago and it worked pretty well for me!

Actually i have done many modifications on your team and it seems to work good. One thing i did is the clone spamming with queen momentum for heavy AoE then i also tried breeze dancer as pos 4 with impetus mystery for extra safety. Naruto can harem ppl in round 1 then i c*e iruka mystery on him on round 2 for extra attacks then i did impetus mystery and use harem mystery and iruka mystery on enemy to interrupt.

But tbh i dont like playing with wind main... so i switched to fire main again but your team was good!

KORREN! can you make any fire main teams?

THANKS




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  • mr_elephant On 2020-06-22 20:51:29
  • Hello!

    i tested your team a few days ago and it worked pretty well for me!

    Actually i have done many modifications on your team and it seems to work good. One thing i did is the clone spamming with queen momentum for heavy AoE then i also tried breeze dancer as pos 4 with impetus mystery for extra safety. Naruto can harem ppl in round 1 then i c*e iruka mystery on him on round 2 for extra attacks then i did impetus mystery and use harem mystery and iruka mystery on enemy to interrupt.

    But tbh i dont like playing with wind main... so i switched to fire main again but your team was good!

    KORREN! can you make any fire main teams?

    THANKS

I tested Fire main teams with Sage Jiraiya in pos 1 (problem: his mystery costs 60 chakra in round 2, very annoying, and it didn't even do much damage when I used it) and Choza (problem: I forgot his mystery isn't immediate, also his scaling isn't as good as I thought it'd be) but they didn't work so well. Your best bet as fire main is to just keep your main in pos 1 as the main damage dealer. I had the most success with this team and it was pretty fun:

Screen Shot 2020-06-22 at 11


Lot of buffs for secret jutsu users here (Fire main, Ino, and Chunin Shikamaru) which is nice. I'll explain how to best use the team based on my experience. Prepare for a lot of text (sorry) but hopefully it helps and there are a lot of tips here.


In round 1, you can either use Iruka on Fire main to clear debuffs and give him an extra standard, or you can interrupt an opponent. With Iruka, I would wait and watch what the opponent does. Don't immediately use him on Fire main, especially if the opponent has a ninja like Gaara, Sasuke, Hashirama, etc., who will set up a barrier with their mystery. In that case, use Iruka to interrupt them when they start setting up. Or if they are using Fire or Earth main and are going to use the shield mysteries those two get, you can interrupt that.


Iruka only interrupts, he doesn't immobile or chaos or anything, so you have to time his interrupt right. So, if you see a ninja like regular Sasuke, don't use Iruka right away. Only use him once you literally see the mystery symbol pop up above Sasuke (or Gaara, Hashirama, whoever) because otherwise it will be a waste of Iruka's mystery. I see people make the mistake of just predicting who will mystery immediately and wasting their interrupt. Don't make that mistake. You can predict who you think is going to mystery and click on their slot preemptively so when you do see them make the move, you can just click right away, but don't just USE Iruka's mystery on immediate sight.


If there's no one to interrupt on the opponent's side, just wait. If someone on your team (especially Fire main) gets statused/debuffed, use Iruka on them only then. I originally thought/misunderstood that Iruka made the target IMMUNE to debuffs but actually, he just clears any that are CURRENTLY ON the target at the time of his mystery. So I wouldn't suggest using his mystery immediately because it won't prevent future debuffs. And you don't even have to use him on Fire main - especially if another team member gets chaosed or immobilized, I'd use Iruka's mystery on them.


Fire main, GNW Ino, and Chunin Shika have nice synergy. Ino will chase sleeping (Fire main causes sleep with standard) or immobilized (Shika causes immobile with chase) units and cause Chaos which is arguably the best debuff in the game. She does it twice per round too. A lot of meta ninjas are immune, and you're not gonna beat Edo Minato with this, but if you're just fighting mid-tier teams where most ninjas aren't, it's a powerful combination.


In Round 2, use Fire main. Normally I'd recommend using Ninja Dog Pakkun as your mystery summon (the summon that activates before your main does their mystery, not the chase summon) but since Summer Kurenai and Rinnesasuke have become more common, I'd recommend just going with Ninja Dog Shiba. See, if Pakkun's dogs go across the opponent's field and the opponent has Kurenai or Rinnesasuke, who can cause chaos on contact, then your main will get chaosed and you won't even be able to attack. So it's better to at least be able to use your mystery. If you're gonna risk chaos at least get the damage off first.


Also, you should be able to use Ino's mystery in round 2 as well. Either because you gained 30 chakra from her chasing twice in round 1 (one of her passive skills). Or, use Shikamaru's mystery in round 2 to gain more chakra. So, either way, you'll be able to use Ino's mystery to chaos 2 additional members of the opponent's team.


And from there just rinse and repeat as mysteries refresh.


One thing to note: when I tested this team, I did have all of Chunin Shikamaru's breakthroughs. I'd suggest you start getting his frags from the ninja scroll collection (using survival points). His breakthroughs are very good support and will make this team (and many future teams) even stronger.


Hope this all makes sense and helps. Thanks if you made it through all this explanation lol.

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  • Korren On 2020-06-23 12:14:37
  • I tested Fire main teams with Sage Jiraiya in pos 1 (problem: his mystery costs 60 chakra in round 2, very annoying, and it didn't even do much damage when I used it) and Choza (problem: I forgot his mystery isn't immediate, also his scaling isn't as good as I thought it'd be) but they didn't work so well. Your best bet as fire main is to just keep your main in pos 1 as the main damage dealer. I had the most success with this team and it was pretty fun:

    Screen Shot 2020-06-22 at 11


    Lot of buffs for secret jutsu users here (Fire main, Ino, and Chunin Shikamaru) which is nice. I'll explain how to best use the team based on my experience. Prepare for a lot of text (sorry) but hopefully it helps and there are a lot of tips here.


    In round 1, you can either use Iruka on Fire main to clear debuffs and give him an extra standard, or you can interrupt an opponent. With Iruka, I would wait and watch what the opponent does. Don't immediately use him on Fire main, especially if the opponent has a ninja like Gaara, Sasuke, Hashirama, etc., who will set up a barrier with their mystery. In that case, use Iruka to interrupt them when they start setting up. Or if they are using Fire or Earth main and are going to use the shield mysteries those two get, you can interrupt that.


    Iruka only interrupts, he doesn't immobile or chaos or anything, so you have to time his interrupt right. So, if you see a ninja like regular Sasuke, don't use Iruka right away. Only use him once you literally see the mystery symbol pop up above Sasuke (or Gaara, Hashirama, whoever) because otherwise it will be a waste of Iruka's mystery. I see people make the mistake of just predicting who will mystery immediately and wasting their interrupt. Don't make that mistake. You can predict who you think is going to mystery and click on their slot preemptively so when you do see them make the move, you can just click right away, but don't just USE Iruka's mystery on immediate sight.


    If there's no one to interrupt on the opponent's side, just wait. If someone on your team (especially Fire main) gets statused/debuffed, use Iruka on them only then. I originally thought/misunderstood that Iruka made the target IMMUNE to debuffs but actually, he just clears any that are CURRENTLY ON the target at the time of his mystery. So I wouldn't suggest using his mystery immediately because it won't prevent future debuffs. And you don't even have to use him on Fire main - especially if another team member gets chaosed or immobilized, I'd use Iruka's mystery on them.


    Fire main, GNW Ino, and Chunin Shika have nice synergy. Ino will chase sleeping (Fire main causes sleep with standard) or immobilized (Shika causes immobile with chase) units and cause Chaos which is arguably the best debuff in the game. She does it twice per round too. A lot of meta ninjas are immune, and you're not gonna beat Edo Minato with this, but if you're just fighting mid-tier teams where most ninjas aren't, it's a powerful combination.


    In Round 2, use Fire main. Normally I'd recommend using Ninja Dog Pakkun as your mystery summon (the summon that activates before your main does their mystery, not the chase summon) but since Summer Kurenai and Rinnesasuke have become more common, I'd recommend just going with Ninja Dog Shiba. See, if Pakkun's dogs go across the opponent's field and the opponent has Kurenai or Rinnesasuke, who can cause chaos on contact, then your main will get chaosed and you won't even be able to attack. So it's better to at least be able to use your mystery. If you're gonna risk chaos at least get the damage off first.


    Also, you should be able to use Ino's mystery in round 2 as well. Either because you gained 30 chakra from her chasing twice in round 1 (one of her passive skills). Or, use Shikamaru's mystery in round 2 to gain more chakra. So, either way, you'll be able to use Ino's mystery to chaos 2 additional members of the opponent's team.


    And from there just rinse and repeat as mysteries refresh.


    One thing to note: when I tested this team, I did have all of Chunin Shikamaru's breakthroughs. I'd suggest you start getting his frags from the ninja scroll collection (using survival points). His breakthroughs are very good support and will make this team (and many future teams) even stronger.


    Hope this all makes sense and helps. Thanks if you made it through all this explanation lol.

Hello!

Can you give me your preferred breaks for shika?

I will use your team when i upgrade shika to 4 stars, then i might as well upgrade ino to 3 stars

Thanks!




This post was last edited by mr_elephant on 2020-06-30 15:43:05.
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  • mr_elephant On 2020-06-30 15:42:15
  • Hello!

    Can you give me your preferred breaks for shika?

    I will use your team when i upgrade shika to 4 stars, then i might as well upgrade ino to 3 stars

    Thanks!

These are the BT I normally use on Shika:

Screen Shot 2020-07-01 at 3

Priority:

1st - get passive (Hidden Jutsu Strength) to +2.

2nd - get mystery to Y+1.

3rd - get chase 1 (Flame Killing Blade) to Y.

4th - get chase 2 (Shadow Possession Jutsu) to +1.

5th - get his standard to +2.


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  • Korren On 2020-07-02 03:15:14
  • These are the BT I normally use on Shika:

    Screen Shot 2020-07-01 at 3

    Priority:

    1st - get passive (Hidden Jutsu Strength) to +2.

    2nd - get mystery to Y+1.

    3rd - get chase 1 (Flame Killing Blade) to Y.

    4th - get chase 2 (Shadow Possession Jutsu) to +1.

    5th - get his standard to +2.


Ok

Thanks man!

You make good lineups!

Oh and a question, if i get GNW choji, can i use him instead of iruka?

Thanks!

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  • mr_elephant On 2020-07-02 11:12:17
  • Ok

    Thanks man!

    You make good lineups!

    Oh and a question, if i get GNW choji, can i use him instead of iruka?

    Thanks!

Until you get GNW Choji's breakthroughs, I'd say stay with Iruka. These are the BT you want on Choji and the order:

Screen Shot 2020-07-02 at 9


1st priority - Passive 2 (Eating)

2nd priority - Passive 1 (Akimichi Secret - Recovery)

3rd priority - Chase to +1. You could also use the Y variant if you want to increase the oppontent's cooldown rather than decrease your own. In the team composition I'll show you I'd go with reducing your own cooldown because then you can pretty much spam Choji's mystery if you do this chase, and Chunin Shikamaru already has a chase that increases enemy cooldown.

4th - Mystery

5th - Standard


This is the team I'd use with GNW Choji. You can start using it once you get those first 3 BT on him:

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Ok correction actually, sorry. I forgot that Choji's mystery, before it is BT, is non-prompt, meaning it doesn't activate immediately and you have to wait the time he would regularly do his standard attack for him to use it. So I'd actually put his mystery at 3rd priority then because 99% of ninjas are useless without prompt (instant) mysteries. So once you get his 2 passives and mystery BT, then you can start using him. Then work on his chase afterwards.

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