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the fact that Six Paths Naruto hasn't been nerfed in any way is insanity

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On 2019-05-22 20:26:52Show All Posts
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The problem is not naruto six paths but the fact too many people overstack 1 move wholly forgotting about the other 3.

The difference in combo and critical/injury secondary stats between naruto and your move 2/3/4 it's what makes him op.

What is annoying for most people about him is the fact even if you beat it (and are there many ways) most of the times you don't do it before round 5, but is indeed possible to beat him.

The easiest f2p counter for him is gakido chase trial.

A team that works most of the times against naruto six paths common meta is this one even if you are slower:


Itachi x x

Ningendo x water main

Gakido x x


Talents: 41123, summon: king of hell, summon mystery: pakkun.

Gakido with rinnegan passive y and chase y, mystery y. Ningendo with his rinnegan passive y too, and chase full sb. Itachi full sb.


It's just that doesn't work that good against other teams.


Why skewering and not shark bomb? Because hits harder single target, is halfnin halftai (so can't care less about the eventual edo itachi), may eventually be used round 1 and clears the eventual bee sst mystery after is applied.






This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-05-22 20:42:53.
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On 2019-05-23 17:35:24Show All Posts
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  • litty titty On 2019-05-23 08:02:36
  • Throw in edo itachi with ronin naruto. All the people who only stack pos 1 will get their pos 2, 3, and 4 beat by ronin, and 6p cant control sh*t on his own against a ronin and edo itachi.

Naruto mystery is half nin half tai so unless edo itachi too is very stacked he dies round 3 against naruto six paths. After that moment ronin is always under control.

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On 2019-05-23 17:40:42Show All Posts
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  • Zathroth On 2019-05-22 21:42:52
  • Sasuke susanoo was OP af in 1.0, where people had virtully no stats and he had almost guaranteed crit and fixed injury, so he dealt more dmg than others. Now look at that sorry state he's in right now. Look at sosp in arena where everybody has base stats. He's nowhere near op. And so he will be when people actually close the power gap between positions.


    Wait till you get books for kushina and yagura, once they are more popular you will wish sosp meta came back, as you had to deal with only 1 cancer instead of 2.

Actually edo yagura + kushina habanero is perfectly able to beat naruto six paths even now as long as kushina survives since edo yagura selfheals way more than naruto and his mystery can't be dodged. But the problem is always the same. Move 1 stats vs move 2 ones.

That said indeed once kushina breakthroughs are released her double chase + the ninjutsu boost to her passive will make the duo way stronger than now since requires no backup from move 3/4 to work (if you put in the y mystery with cd 4 even more).


(i am currently trolling six paths teams in arena with this team


Earth/wind main edo yagura x

Edo roshi kushina x

X x x


They can't do anything most of the times)






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On 2019-05-23 17:54:54Show All Posts
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  • Mitokiri On 2019-05-22 21:29:46
  • Fully agree that naruto needs nerf. All you say is true, yes you can counter him, but let's look at it. Yes, he is not the first ninja with a dodge or with immunity. But he has an interruption abilities + reset cd his skill. Someone in the game has such an unbalanced set of abilities? Each character has a weak side, for example, Minato Edo Tensei also has dodge and immunity, but his skill has cd 3 rounds + he cannot lower his cd in any way. But naruto has no clear weaknesses. Yes, you can say just become stronger, but this is not entirely correct advice, because you can say so in general in any situation.

The problem you and the op are experiencing is not about how op naruto six paths is.

What you are experiencing is how unbalanced move 1 secondary stats are.

It's them that make naruto six paths op in most of the situations.

What should be nerfed or capped or reduced is the impact move 1 secondary stats have in game right now.

They matter too much currently.

Naruto six paths do close to nothing when faces ninjas with higher combo stats than him (like agk or hokage minato) because once they stacked enough combo the enemy naruto simply do not enter anymore in rage mode if not once every two rounds. The same applies when faces ninjas with higher injury than him. His damage in that case is ridiculously low (and so his selfhealing).

Try to use him as move 2 or 3 and you'll see what i mean.

So when do the issue appear?

When is move 1.

And why?

For the reason i said. Secondary stats.

So what is that should be nerfed?

Him or move 1 secondary stats impact on the enemy move 2/3/4?

It's quite obvious what is the answer.


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On 2019-05-24 16:08:27Show All Posts
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  • litty titty On 2019-05-23 19:54:53
  • You naruto 6p fan girls are really dedicated to this whole "under control" thing. How do u know naruto 6p will survive till round 3 against ronin?

I don't own naruto six paths nor i plan to get him.

If you read my previous posts you would know i gave to a lot of people tips to beat him.

Anyways the reason why naruto six paths will survive against ronin up to round 3 is simply the fact he selfheals too much thanks to the enemy move 2/3/4 low substats.

Beware that i was generous when i said itachi edo tensei would survive up to round 3, if he is not that stacked could be he is dead round 2 directly.

Ronin naruto against naruto six paths works exactly like an hokage minato supported by an asuma wind blade and by a bee sst that give him the second standard attack.

Against a comparable power naruto six paths the hokage minato blitz do not win in any ways before round 3 and most of the times go to round 5/7 and generally minato wins because he dodges the first attack, imposing so on the enemy naruto to use standard first, then mystery, that grants he won't have mystery the following round even on round 3, but during the rounds naruto cannot immobile him he hits him with two attacks FULL TAI after mystery popped his dodge.

Ronin doesn't have the self dodge and as you can see in the pic:

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His standard attack is NIN so only his mystery gets advantaged by the self boost.

So, against naruto six paths, he will work way worse than hokage minato is able to do right now.







This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-05-24 16:30:04.
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On 2019-05-24 16:38:18Show All Posts
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  • HolotheWiseWolf On 2019-05-24 09:03:15
  • I think it's funny that a lot of people are just saying that it's the meta of p1 stacking is the only reason why he's OP. If that was the case, what's even the point of this topic. No other ninja in the game comes close to 6paths Naruto utility and having p1 stacking or not isn't going to change it. He just has too many strong abilities and not that many weaknesses. From experience fighting him, his only weakness is blitz teams that have super armor. Mirror teams are useful but they rely on the immobile reflecting back to a non immune ninja on the enemy team to be really effective.


    Will Naruto ronnin be a better counter? Probably not in 1v1. I haven't seen a CN video of him that wasn't in bonds where one team was running full support for him. Not too mention Naruto CN =/= Naruto EN, so just cause it's strong there doesn't mean it will be here. In my opinion he could use a nerf to something. My suggestion, have him start explosive mode on his chase instead of mystery. This negates a large amount of his OP healing but still retains a lot of what makes him strong.

Once you have 4 stacked positions in terms of injury and combo (that is what matters for a move 1 naruto to work fine) naruto six paths works WAY WAY worse than ninjas like AGK or edo deidara full sb. Even edo tensei yagura or ay 3rd would work better than him in that case.

If you don't believe me you can do the test yourself. Remove stats from your naruto to make him comparable to your move 2/3/4 and try to face an enemy around your power that did the same.

Believe it or not but naruto in the comparable 4 stacked positions scenario is not meant to be move 1.

So, again, what is the problem?

That he gives too a big advantage to whoever overstacks 1 single move, as you said, but why this happens? Because move 1 injury and combo stat impact on the enemy moves 2/3/4 is too big.





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On 2019-05-24 20:45:53Show All Posts
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  • S36-Sui On 2019-05-24 17:43:29
  • Nope


    Naruto ronin standard attack TAI only not NIN. You can see some video on youtube "Naruto ronin vs madara founder ". Madara don't take any damage from ronin.


    Wrong translate lol

My bad then, but still, even if is tai doesn't change much.

he still do the same exact thing hokage minato do right now with the difference that is very possible for the enemy naruto, after he immobilized him the first time, to keep constantly him under immobile once that the battle is down to an 1vs1 fight (that with our current power balancement means round 2/3 usually) thing that is not possible with hokage minato.

So since we don't see swb full of move 1 hokage minatos to counter naruto six paths right now we won't even see naruto ronin everywhere later.





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