my 2 cents - Edo Minato is the shiz, with a great supporting cast. if you don't have the proper ninjas to back him up he probably wont do you any good. People that think his damage is low or really weak either don't have him or don't have him stacked right. I have both him and 6p Naruto and Minato does way more damage than Naruto in my stacked position 1. I completely agree you that if you don't have very high (for your power level) initiative and the proper ninjas to back him up, he would be useless to you. 6p Naruto can literally win a battle by himself as most fights with or against him usually end in him being the only ninja alive through ten rounds (very boring imo). i wreck 6p all day with Edo Minato even with lower initiative but I have the ninjas to back him up and my timing is on point. I bought Edo Minato first and went months without 6p Naruto and can honestly say he was a good investment. I see the appeal and would probably agree that 6p Naruto would be a better choice and would reccomend saving for him, but for my playstyle I go Edo Minato all the way (going 10 rounds for every battle doesn't appeal to me).

im just curious what do you use to support him ?

I use him with 5k madara and edo itachi. wind main of course

This is just replacing pos 1 ninja, no other changes

Both ninjas are max lvl, awakening, cultivation and mood. Mood for both +life -res

Minato does 100+k more damage overall

Also he hits dodge ninjas, soooooo...

Screenshots don’t seem to be working check out this vid: http://youtu.be/-Xs5Qnt_G8A

Against 12 Kakashi clones 6p Naruto’s mystery does 188,072 dmg

Against 12 Kakashi clones Edo Minato’s mystery does 278,650 dmg

Edo Minato vs So6P Naruto decisive bonds: http://youtu.be/9bc1YB1qqto

I own him and pretty much use him exclusively in all modes (except 9tails) and am very satisfied with him. His damage is decent, and his kit is overall good (minus the 3round mystery) which is why I use Wind main with him for the mystery reset. I usually use him with 5 kage madara and 8-tails jinchuriki Bee/6P Naruto for the immobile chase. I'd advise against using him with Fire Main since he can't really help unless you have 6P Naruto or someone similar as Pos 1 and Minato as the support which is fine, otherwise just stay with Jonin Minato for Fire Main.

its only suitable for a whale or heavyspenders, but it seems only few will listen to me lol

to make edo minato applicable and good, u need initiative, expensive support ninja, and tons of power

No one listens to you cause you are not being helpful and frankly have no experience with Edo Minato. All you have been doing is throwing salt.

Beside that I do have to say 3 things

one In my experience Edo Minato is a great one hit wonder very similar to how edo hashirama is

two Minato[Jonin] is objectively better than the other 2 at scaling and CC with his bond mystery

three Hokage Minato is still the best at single target damage out of all three

In retrospect Edo minato main advantage is his immunity and no extra requirement for his mystery to deal arguably better damage than the other 2

I use to use a blitz lineup with edo minato, sosp naruto, wind main and madara founder

lol, edo minato is not good for a medium power, lol

open ur eyes guys, u can only use him if u have high damage, and initiative, ur wind main will be targeted automatically by smart opponents, and u will lose the mystery reset , ur team will be doomed, angel konan is better, even current edo deidara without skillbreakthrough is better.

Its just like sasuke rinnesharingan or kakashi susanoo, its not good enough unless for high power player lol or just like in choosing edo hashirama or susanoo itachi case, edo hashirama is not that good unless you win initiative, so in that case, susanoo itachi is better in ur case

Just pick naruto six path , u will be in a piece :), atleast in SWB, a whale will hardly targeted you, they will rarely targeted you and u c*so conquer arena in most time

Yes it's kushina Uzumaki, normal version. It's the key point for the two teams to work (if 3 stars). For the wind main version because may use her mystery to eventually wake up wind main or hashirama, for the water version for the same reason and also because the clones that die grant stacks to nature energy gathering. A shark bomb with 4+ stacks begins to hit hard. Overall this works if the enemy in round 1 use kisame samehada or madara 5ks to break edo tobirama bond skill barrier. In that case you have a 100% sure combo starter in kushina (unless the clone dies) that give 1 free stack to minato + immobile.

The idea is that you use it only if you are 100% sure to not be interrupted, otherwise you just freeze the round using kisame samehada or madara 5ks (that's way he said to bring them in as your 4th ninja, not only for round 1. Consider that dance of impetus reduces to 0 the cd of them too)

Hokage minato is simply the version of the 3 that has the easiest way to stack his self buff.

But on par stats and par number of stacks of the self buff what garv says is indeed true.

It's just that hokage minato starts round 2 generally with 1/2 stacks of the buff while edo minato doesn't do it.

He is not meant to work good with our current average power level, exactly like madara 10 tails, edo hashirama and sasuke rinne sharingan.

If you talk about our current situation where you have a lot of blind move 1 stackers with no power on move 2-4 where, basically, every single match is a duel between two move 1 then yes, is like you said,but when your move 2/3/4 begins to have the same or close to the same secondary stats as your move 1 (primary will be always way different) then you'll discover that the 'support' don't die because your move 1 most of the times doesn't crit and if crits just do it for +40/50% of the damage due to a very low difference in injury stat.

P.S. Gakido has for 3 rounds a selfbuff of 60% to resistance, is not that easy to bring down and this becomes a 40% unremovable with his y+1 passive.

the wreckin team i play is windmain madara5k kisame and pos1 edo minato... If u are highly stacked in pos1 and faster than ur opponent (no need being stronger in battlepower!!!)... This is my naru6P destroyer team... In this line up ur opponent cant do anything for completely 3 rounds ! (only if u are faster pos 1!)

Round1: Mystery madara pos2 (if he is controlled by itachiRB th*e kisame)

Round2: edominato in addition to madara or kisame ur opponent will not have any chakra after ur mystery... th*e windmain to reset... than directly madara again...

Round3: edominato mystery -> opponent has no chakra... ur opponent should be almost dead by 2 misteries and very strong chases (madara + kisame) ... do kisame opak

Round4: in this round ur opponent has its only chance if he managed to be alive.

Madara almost chase immune, kisame comboimmune, edominato permanently immune

Works well against every meta team on german servers (keep in mind u have to be faster pos1, thats important)... hiruzen teams should not one hit u for sure^^

won with this team now all the 3 Space Time seasons we had till now (german server)

Best regards Casi

it was a typo XD, anyways yeah even ad y directly it does it.

yep, you need ideal conditions to be able to use it constantly, but that's why kisame or madara are there :-)

my main team edo min/chi/firemain/shisui