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[ PVP ] shisui 1 vs. 2, AG k + EG k

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On 2018-10-16 22:40:16Show All Posts
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  • selyl On 2018-10-16 17:03:23
  • aiya don't be stupd la, angel konan + earth grudge together 35k cant beat one single ninja 12k, where is the brain? I question myself seriously if I continue to play, lool

I really need a video of this. 12k Shisui ALONE wins against 35k total AGK+EGK. Thanks in advance, and hope you won't give me a video where lighting main-iruka-itachi anbu-shisui team beats AGK+EGK team because that's 4v4, not 1v2 as you mentioned.

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On 2018-10-17 09:55:19Show All Posts
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  • selyl On 2018-10-16 23:42:42
  • 1st round : shisui dodge agk's standard attack. But gets hit by mystery of earth grudge kakuzu egk. And also gets hit by egk's standard attack. shisui attacks with standard attack.



    2nd round : agk mystery lands on shisui but standard attack dodged by shisui. shisui uses mystery on egk. shisui attacks.


    3rd round : shisui dodges agk standard attack , agk n egk gets hit by shisui. egk in coma, cant heal.


    do I need to go on? agk will die first by ignite. egk will forever be in coma by shisui koto. 3 rd cd, 2 rd chaos



    I can make 2 main fighting by themselves at bottom row without bothering the 3 of them. fire sleep vs. lightning calm mind.

First, main character will always bother 3 of them since shisui hits 2 units, so chances are that main character on AGK + EGK side will get hit.

Second, I will show you a better case of the fight.

1st round: Kakuzu uses mystery and does standard attack, shisui dodges it. Shisui attacks. Agk combos and chases, shisui gets immobile.

2nd round: Shisui is immobile. Kon*es mystery(has 20% nin buff and tag). Kakuzu attacks, shisui dodges it. Konan combos and chase again, mystery cd is now 2 rounds instead of 3.

3rd round: base on my knowledge about debuff, I'm pretty sure Shisui is still immobile at this round, but I still need experienced players to confirm this. Kakuzu attacks, Shisui dodges, Konan combos and chases again. Now she has mystery (2 round cd on 2nd round reduced by 1 when moving to 3rd round, then reduced by 1 due to combo), of course she will use it (40% nin buff and tag)

4th round: Barrier is gone, Shisui is free. He wants to use mystery on Kakuzu, but Kakuzu says "Nope". Shisui gets interupted by Kakuzu mystery. The battle goes on, Shisui keeps getting controlled by Konan.

Here you go. You just need to practice using them and a bit of luck in the fight. And if you're owning both AGK+EGK, I'll assume that you have enough resource (coupons) to get materials to increase initiative. The rest depends on your skills, if you can't win, don't blame the game or other people, blame yourself because you're not good enough (or you're so unlucky).

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On 2018-10-17 14:14:11Show All Posts
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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 13:20:44
  • so you need 3 ninjas to beat one shisui ? hahaha.


    Yup, That's about right. lool.

No, it's a 1v2 fight between Shisui and AGK+EGK, leaving out main character because they will ruin the fight. Of course, it's a theory only since we haven't got no-main arena yet. Where in my reply did you see the 3rd ninja? And the only reason that I made this unfair match is to prove that Shisui alone does not always win against AGK+EGK as you said, sometimes he wins, sometimes he loses. The same for all ninjas in this game. Just accept that fact. Also, if you feel that you can never win shisui in a 1v2 fight with AGK+EGK, I would suggest normal neji (3 star) + kurenai. Finally, I just want to remind you that you still have 2 more options for ninjas to counter Shisui lineup (whole lineup, not Shisui only). Pick your ninjas and choose talents wisely.

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On 2018-10-17 14:48:37Show All Posts
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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 14:41:37
  • I guess you don't have Agk to know that...….she need help to immobile ninja.

Yes, I don't have agk. But she can cause knockdown with standard attack and apply immobile through the chase by herself.

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On 2018-10-17 14:59:05Show All Posts
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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 14:54:22
  • you typed so much you forgot shisui dodge

That's why I put Kakuzu at pos1, to bait Shisui's dodge. Do you even read my reply? You put Konan at pos1, Kakuzu at pos2, which results in Shisui dodging all Konan standard attacks and finally, you get a lose (maybe). I did the opposite. Putting Kakuzu at pos1 to bait Shisui's dodge, so Konan can combo and immobile Shisui. By that way, I have higher chance to win.

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On 2018-10-17 15:16:25Show All Posts
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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 15:06:23
  • what happens if Agk didn't trigger immobile? You think it's high chance? Nah. You want to immobile hoping it trigger every round? That's really optimistic.


    So let's say if it trigger by chance , are you telling me I should spend a much higher cost ninjas to bet on luck to win much lower cost ninja? That sounds about right too

In my case, I assume she will triggers combo. Just like what you did in your case, you assume that Shisui can chaos Kakuzu with his mystery. What if Shisui got a "control failed" on Kakuzu? A battle can grow in many different ways that no one can predict. You choose a way where Shisui wins AGK+EGK and say he will always win. I choose a way where Shisui loses AGK+EGK and say you're wrong.

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On 2018-10-17 15:35:25Show All Posts
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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 15:22:36
  • lmao .


    Even if I indulge you , what do you think will happen 9 out of 10 battles? shisui koto fail? I played like 100 rounds in arena in recent months I cannot remember if I seen that. lool.

The fact that it doesn't happen in 100 rounds doesn't mean that it never happens. Even if its probability is only 1/1000000000000, it still happens at some points. Btw, I want to ask you one question: Do you admit that sometimes Shisui will lose to AGK+EGK (in my case particularly) ?

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On 2018-10-17 16:34:30Show All Posts
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  • Oujingbing On 2018-10-17 16:28:56
  • The way I seen in CN server and lot of youtubes, it seems kakuzu mystery is hitting through dodge ninjas so of course his mystery only. Lets say kakuZu position 1 is faster then every mystery cast by shisui will be interupted. Can someone confirm kakuzu mystery able to hit through dodge ninja? Maybe its part of his skillbreak, dont have kakuzu so I cant tell.

Yes, Kakuzu mystery hits through dodge even without breakthrough.

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