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On 2018-10-01 16:54:22Show this Author Only
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  • IamAscrub On 2018-10-01 10:36:57
  • Nah its not unhealthy for the game right now, because we don't have the mutations. The passive mutation (that give him scaling) is what make ay 4th broken in china. Without the mutation, he is hard countered by buff removers like 5kc madara/mask man/han. Even a shark kisame greatly neuters his effectiveness without the mutation.

    He is not meta without the mutations, so it's still ok for the time being. The people who can access his skill breaks right now can easily kill a normal player much faster and consistently with ninjas like hiruzen or konan.

i was lucky enough to get him perfect skillbroken in zenith he is a beast the only thing you really need in his mutation is the scaling but he is still a beast without it

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On 2018-10-01 22:39:04Show this Author Only
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to tell u the truth, Ay 4th skill mutation/trial is broken, Thank you oasis to not let this ninja get his sb easily. This is just like when oasis decided to not bring %tactic page to us. I hope oasis wont bring kakuzu egf mutation/trial too since he is also broken.

I am sorry for the owner of Ay4th raikage, but , we need to accept this for the sake of balance and healthy game.

Oasis must not monetize the upcoming supposed free ninjas too

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On 2018-10-01 23:28:44Show this Author Only
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  • warterman On 2018-10-01 22:39:04
  • to tell u the truth, Ay 4th skill mutation/trial is broken, Thank you oasis to not let this ninja get his sb easily. This is just like when oasis decided to not bring %tactic page to us. I hope oasis wont bring kakuzu egf mutation/trial too since he is also broken.

    I am sorry for the owner of Ay4th raikage, but , we need to accept this for the sake of balance and healthy game.

    Oasis must not monetize the upcoming supposed free ninjas too

yeah right.lets hope that deidera(edo) and kakuzu(grudge) dont require 4* to skill break...Nah scrap that please oasis make it compulsory for kakuzu to be 4* before you skillbreak..XD


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On 2018-10-02 17:24:38Show this Author Only
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  • S440-Genesis On 2018-10-01 16:54:22
  • i was lucky enough to get him perfect skillbroken in zenith he is a beast the only thing you really need in his mutation is the scaling but he is still a beast without it

In arena, even with the breaktroughs, you get still owned by any sb with clone and immobile mystery or by any faster than you shark bomb team that runs a 2nd direct cc ninja like masked man, shisui, itachi susano'o, fu yamanata, ao, ino etc...




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-10-02 17:27:21.
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On 2018-10-02 17:30:28Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-10-02 17:24:38
  • In arena, even with the breaktroughs, you get still owned by any sb with clone and immobile mystery or by any faster than you shark bomb team that runs a 2nd direct cc ninja like masked man, shisui, itachi susano'o, fu yamanata, ao, ino etc...

hmm true thats why anbu yamato is required

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On 2018-10-02 21:33:52Show this Author Only
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Even very few p2w got him more than 3 star. Maybe put him in recharge events like itachi wheel and balloon thing.People are getting bored of constant itachi susanoo,kakuzu,and deidara events. Maybe put those ninjas when breakthroughs come.


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On 2018-10-03 07:58:53Show this Author Only
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  • warterman On 2018-10-01 22:39:04
  • to tell u the truth, Ay 4th skill mutation/trial is broken, Thank you oasis to not let this ninja get his sb easily. This is just like when oasis decided to not bring %tactic page to us. I hope oasis wont bring kakuzu egf mutation/trial too since he is also broken.

    I am sorry for the owner of Ay4th raikage, but , we need to accept this for the sake of balance and healthy game.

    Oasis must not monetize the upcoming supposed free ninjas too

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On 2018-10-03 14:50:27Show this Author Only
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On 2018-10-03 21:14:26Show this Author Only
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Making his SB available at 4* doesn't really balance anything.

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On 2018-10-03 21:28:19Show this Author Only
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im pretty sure they just wanna add his fragment and skillbook in next recharge event xD , you know , like usual

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On 2018-10-03 23:01:00Show this Author Only
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I got my both kage SR pretty late when they were out of meta already, I've literally never been able to use either of them with success in current state of the game, so thats why having 4* restriction is disappointing to say the least. As people mentioned, regular skillbooks are easily countered right now, even if that 0.01% of playerbase can actually get them. Once (if) he gets mutations released, 4* limit is a paywall that vast majority of players, including majority of spenders simply cannot pass (@Tobei, his frags are offered only in ingot related events or spend 25-35k ones, hardly ever frag by frag like sasuke). If mutations actually go live, that means general intention of Ay being owned by highest powerhouses (since vs mere mortals they can win with anything anyway) goes to rubbish bin. Unless it's our usual "pay a lot to get short term early access" agenda.


Fully upgraded ay 4th with skill experiment passive shines in 1v1. Thats all he does.

What about sasuke susanoo skill experiments? God tier 2v2 and 3v3.

Danzo's experiments? Pretty much poor man's susanoo itachi for almost free, for everyone, most versatile (except EGF kakuzu).

EGF Kakuzu experiments? Broken literally everywhere. Even had new ninja and assist link designed specifically to counter him.

Edo deidara experiments? Another god tier 2v2, 3v3.


I'm obviously aware that those books(and experiments) arent released yet, but since discussion appeared during Ay who starts it all, it might be worth to think about it NOW how things will go, instead of doing emergency fixes.


Propably more to come in the future. Obviously its easier to get event ninja frags than treasure SR, so are they all going to be put behind a paywall? If it's only balance issue, why not deactivate skill that makes them broken and allow playerbase that farmed for ages to get them to actually use them? And if it's a matter of everybody knows what, just make it 5* restriction, disabled mutation and open skillbooks for frags, so we all know why it's the way it is. And honestly how bad would be just not use those restrictions and let that chaos reign? It's already like this, just with different teams. You always win as long as you are stronger and faster unless you meet your hard counter. The same will go for them.


Also: lately implementing new ninja skillbooks at this rate in CN is powercreep trend the same way as implementing new ninjas is one here. Most of the time people won't even manage to get one and there are already 4 new ones (except for people who instantly buy anything thats new every week, kudos for you guys who are content creators lol). If it's balanced you are concerned about, youll propably have to change half of the game that is yet to come tbh. Meanwhile we just want (accessible) new content. And competitive people, after all this time actually know what's about to come and how to deal with it.


Just my thoughts, hope they actually managed to highlight some of the issues.




This post was last edited by Zathroth on 2018-10-03 23:10:19.
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On 2018-10-04 07:25:16Show this Author Only
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