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On 2018-07-17 06:59:28Show this Author Only
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TLDR and all the good ****


I just want to say that this is still a game. My definition of game= something that is fun...

wait... did you hear that?... FUN

What is this? A GAME! And what is my definition of a game? FUN

Don't get me wrong, I totally get the competitive part to. And the business aspect of it. But when its all said and done, why are we playing this? Whats the whole point of this? fun. So to everyone out there, just enjoy the ride. It doesn't matter what they do. For all they care, they could shut down the game right here right now any second or make any changes that could change the entire face of the game from strategy to a FPS game. So, back to the schedule part of it , it doesn't matter what time or when they release stuff. And they have the full right to do whatever the actual fork they want to do with the game. They can reveal what type of schedule they have or when things are released or not. And at the end of the day, IT DOESN'T MATTER. It doesn't matter. Even if they revealed it and showed it to us, it won't change when they are releasing stuff of not. Plus, they could change it at any point. Heck, for all we know, the release of 5.0 could be scheduled for tomorrow, pushed back till 2019 and we wouldn't be able to change anything.

*gasps for air

so in conclusion, just don't worry about it. Oasis will do whatever they want to do with the game when they want to. If you want to play it, play it. If not, and you are still worried about the the schedule aspect of it, go watch world cup reruns or something, I don't know.

I'm not going to reread or edit this before i post, so if there are tangents or mistakes in here, i sincerely apologize.

Don't hate, and peace




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  • Empheezie On 2018-07-17 05:37:09
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    I'm still confused about the redeemable red runes in 8 gates. Daiske said that there was a "serious technical issue" with it that caused them to postpone the feature indefinitely but Tobei is saying its unavailable as the developer's choice.


Hi! So basically what was said is that there is an issue right now with the specific update and it has been postponed based on developer's choice due to those problems.


This may change in the future, but currently it is postponed.


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  • Daiske On 2018-07-16 08:05:00
  • All I am going to say is that this week we will celebrate our second anniversary, dattebayo~


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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-07-17 04:43:46
  • my swb has 2 brackets, one has 12-13 people per land so 36-39 people total the other has about 22-26 people per land.


    the 36 person total swb is boring since us strong people just farm the weaker people till they get knocked out and get 0 rewards, but we don't have much of a choice since we want to get 1st on our lands and for most of us its a risk to fight each other so we dont risk it until there are no weak people left, ive seen it go down to 5 people on a land still able to get rewards, so i don't know how thats fair.

    the 66 person swb we at least have more options to attack so most people have a chance of getting a win here and there so they wont get knocked out and lose their possibility of rewards.


    trust me no1 enjoys the 36 person swb more. not us strong people or the weak people. if they made xswb a 2ndary option like you sugested i would have voted for that as well, but right now my server can start a swb on its own so i would rather the weaker people on my server get more rewards instead of splitting them with other servers.



    @Zathroth - a lot of people on my server stopped doing the event because they just get farmed by people they have no chance against, which leads to the problem of those 50% u said didnt care not using the event and then the remaining 50% get split because there arent enough people to fight and so we farm the bottom remaining 50% until they get knocked out which then repeats the cycle.


    i personaly got helped from xswb since i can win the team point rewards more often since i can get a decent 2nd strongest on my land now where b4 i was the strongest and got the 6th strongest as my lands 2nd best(aka me vs every1 else and they farmed my whole land besides me), but most of m server was hurt by it and is still being hurt.

If in your server bracket there are two battlefields only and one has 36 people while the other has 66 then the feature is not working at all as they told us it should have worked in distributing the people, because if worked as they claimed when they showed us the x-server feature then you should have two fields with 51 people each one, the simple fact this does not happen means the way people is selected to go in a field IS NOT THE WAY THEY TOLD US.

Anyways no, you are wrong. The issue you talk about would exist only in your field that is the top level 100 field, all the other fields would not experience that issue at all and still your field is experiencing that situation because the 19th-36th strongest person in your bracket, evidently, is not strong enough to be able to let you reach round 5+, thing that is more or less true only in your specifoc bracket and region and what you are not considering is the fact that right now the number of people that in a 90 field do not get any rewards is 60, in a 36 field is 6. If you are the 40-60th strongest in a bracket is the difference between getting 0 advanced refinements and getting 3-4 per time. The difference is huge.

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  • Empheezie On 2018-07-17 05:37:09
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    I'm still confused about the redeemable red runes in 8 gates. Daiske said that there was a "serious technical issue" with it that caused them to postpone the feature indefinitely but Tobei is saying its unavailable as the developer's choice.


There is no technical issue, the runes are right now there, they simply flagged them to be hidden, if they remove the flag, i repeat myself, they are right now there available. They simply do not want we get them.

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  • fallingsky On 2018-07-17 06:59:28
  • TLDR and all the good ****


    I just want to say that this is still a game. My definition of game= something that is fun...

    wait... did you hear that?... FUN

    What is this? A GAME! And what is my definition of a game? FUN

    Don't get me wrong, I totally get the competitive part to. And the business aspect of it. But when its all said and done, why are we playing this? Whats the whole point of this? fun. So to everyone out there, just enjoy the ride. It doesn't matter what they do. For all they care, they could shut down the game right here right now any second or make any changes that could change the entire face of the game from strategy to a FPS game. So, back to the schedule part of it , it doesn't matter what time or when they release stuff. And they have the full right to do whatever the actual fork they want to do with the game. They can reveal what type of schedule they have or when things are released or not. And at the end of the day, IT DOESN'T MATTER. It doesn't matter. Even if they revealed it and showed it to us, it won't change when they are releasing stuff of not. Plus, they could change it at any point. Heck, for all we know, the release of 5.0 could be scheduled for tomorrow, pushed back till 2019 and we wouldn't be able to change anything.

    *gasps for air

    so in conclusion, just don't worry about it. Oasis will do whatever they want to do with the game when they want to. If you want to play it, play it. If not, and you are still worried about the the schedule aspect of it, go watch world cup reruns or something, I don't know.

    I'm not going to reread or edit this before i post, so if there are tangents or mistakes in here, i sincerely apologize.

    Don't hate, and peace

If you were talking about a game where you do not pay to be competitive you would be perfectly right, sadly is not the case of this game so you are wrong. The very moment they sell me something they have obligations towards me if i pay.

If not with that logic if you go at a shop and they sell you something broken you should have no right to complain even if they guaranteed you it was perfectly working right.




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  • Daiske On 2018-07-16 07:31:56
  • My response to Oasis Games = Tencent Games stays same. I am sorry.


    selyl - Players are being too harsh and biased with Fuku deal. After that special one we had quiet some time ago, players expect it every single time and if it is not like that, it is automatically bad. Previous Fuku event with EDO Deidara was a special Fuku event that MIGHT but also MIGHT NOT happen from time to time. We are aware that players liked it and if there will be a chance to bring such offer again in the future, we will do so.


    Do I care? 2 - I do not think it is fair to say we overprice items or ninjas. Price changes according to in what event item or ninja can be redeemed. Same can be said about whole event cycle. If there are multiple spending rebates, it is normal you might spend a little bit more than last time BUT you get a lot of items in return. Everything has some value. I do agree with you that it is all about planning and how players handle their resources. I do not think it is a best example to compare mobile game with browser game. I do not play FGO but I really doubt they release their whole schedule with all details. They might announce that some new changes, features or characters are coming in next few weeks. We sadly can't do that. I don't understand your last question regarding time of feature development and change implementation. I do remember the Dosu thread. But the thing is - it was not first thread. When author posted it for a very first time, we have informed him that his suggestion will be passed to rest of the team. And that's it. We do not inform players what is current status of their suggestion or if their suggestion was rejected or not. Simply put, if team is even considering such change or implementation, from that point it is internal information and public will not be informed about it (unless it is confirmed and it's near its release date). There is nothing new I could tell you or anyone else about Dosu case. There are other things, more important things, that team should focus on right now. I know there are players who really really really love Dosu and that is completely fine. But in general, Dosu is not one of the most liked or wanted ninjas from the series. So if he will be added to the game, he will be most likely a side character. Side characters do not receive that much attention. I actually wanted to reply to his thread but I was busy and I had to take care of other things at that time and then I forgot about it.


    Fiyuri - Everything you suggest or request (of course if it is reasonable request) is discussed with rest of the team, that also includes developers. We are not the only version of the game so the process of processing information is a bit longer and sometimes it must be put aside if there are plans to release bigger updates or new big updates/features/ninjas are in development. You as players are able to make changes (to features, ninjas etc .. you might suggest changes but it does not mean it will be implemented). In the past we did polls but it was a failure and we learned our lesson. We promised something and we were not able to keep our promise. So no more polls in near future. Team is working on many features and updates. Mentioning them will make our community believe that it is close to its release date but reality is different (you might not see it for months). That's why we try to avoid such situations.


    Scarlettblue - There are indeed features that are only for players that buy ingots. But it is like that for a reason. It helps the game to survive and develop. Free to play players have the chance to obtain items from such features as well. But it will take them some time.

This has nothing to do with what i said. Ability treasure is not ingots only nor are ingots only advanced threads and is not that if you place them as redeemable items in events they are 'free' they cost the redemption currency we do not spend for other things in that case. If you value 1 ability scroll 100 coupons (those are your prices eh, not mine) then put them in redemption shops in events for the equivalent cost of 100 coupons. If you value 1 advanced thread 69 coupons (again,your prices, not mine) then put them in events at that redemption cost. If you want to make a feature ingots only then make it ingots only, but has nothing to do with the fact those items that right now are purchasable with coupons (not ingots) never appear in events, not even at an increased redemption price than the price you are showing us they value for you, not for us.

And let me tell you that what garv said is perfectly true. It's useless that you show me that panic armor buy event with advanced threads at 38 ingots when with all the features you implented during last 15 months the power and initiative battle armor grants is in no way appealing for that level of prices. Literally none buys advanced threads, nor with coupons neither with ingots because the price is too high for what we get back from it in comparison with every single new feature you implemented during last 15 months and every new further feature you implement make them less appealing. You know perfectly that this is the reason why in china they put advanced threads in sun and moon shop and the reason why the panic buy is both ingots and coupons and the cost per advanced thread is way lower, because no new whale cared for it and is exactly what is happening here too since at least 12 months. I literally do not know one single person over 150k power in any server newer than server 291 that actually owns battle armor rank 8, maybe there are 1 or 2 at most. So what is the point of keeping those unreasonable prices? Legacy? Legacy do not give you money, a new feature to let a whale overcome a big increase of power their rivals gained for arelatively low cost does it do it, instead.




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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-07-17 16:47:46
  • There is no technical issue, the runes are right now there, they simply flagged them to be hidden, if they remove the flag, i repeat myself, they are right now there available. They simply do not want we get them.

Hi. What was said earlier was this, "Missing content from version 3.0 was pushed back/cancelled due to serious technical problems that needed required amount of time to create fix, then testing and it could delay version 4.0 for months. We (publishers and developers) have chosen the lesser evil." It states that the missing content from version 3.0 was pushed back due to technical problems. Please be wary that this may be subject to change, but at the moment they are not releasing it for a reason.


We are trying to be transparent with you and answer your questions the best we can, but in order for this to work, you need to also trust us and not just simply assume otherwise.


~Jib




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  • Jiburiru On 2018-07-17 17:14:31
  • Hi. What was said earlier was this, "Missing content from version 3.0 was pushed back/cancelled due to serious technical problems that needed required amount of time to create fix, then testing and it could delay version 4.0 for months. We (publishers and developers) have chosen the lesser evil." It states that the missing content from version 3.0 was pushed back due to technical problems. Please be wary that this may be subject to change, but at the moment they are not releasing it for a reason.


    We are trying to be transparent with you and answer your questions the best we can, but in order for this to work, you need to also trust us and not just simply assume otherwise.


    ~Jib

The currently implemented interface for eight inner gates feature is 4.0 one, not 3.0 one. If existed an issue was there in 3.0, but indeed is not there anymore because 4.0 interface has by default all the red runes at 80-128k and also gold initiative rune at 80k, they do not need to be 'added' as it was, maybe in 3.0. If there was a technical issue would be there also for the other purple and gold runes, since is not there for them then is not there neither for the other currently hidden (by you) pages of the redemption shop.




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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-07-17 17:22:57
  • The currently implemented interface for eight inner gates feature is 4.0 one, not 3.0 one. If existed an issue was there in 3.0, but indeed is not there anymore because 4.0 interface has by default all the red runes at 80-128k and also gold initiative rune at 80k, they do not need to be 'added' as it was, maybe in 3.0. If there was a technical issue would be there also for the other purple and gold runes, since is not there for them then is not there neither for the other currently hidden (by you) pages of the redemption shop.

The thing is, you are basing the "by default" on a feature of the game that exist in another version of the game different from our own. As you know, each feature interacts with the game a little differently. They don't just appear "by default" because a game is updated, they are added into the game individually and may not work as intended if certain features are missing. From what was said before, it seems that what is happening is some of the features are missing due to issues with some of the features from 3.0.


The feedback regarding the missing features has already been sent as well. Thank you so much for your patience, I will ask a little more about it. I do really understand where you guys are coming from as I am also waiting for the feature myself. Rest assured that we will let you know as soon as possible when it becomes available.


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  • Jiburiru On 2018-07-17 17:31:44
  • The thing is, you are basing the "by default" on a feature of the game that exist in another version of the game different from our own. As you know, each feature interacts with the game a little differently. They don't just appear "by default" because a game is updated, they are added into the game individually and may not work as intended if certain features are missing. From what was said before, it seems that what is happening is some of the features are missing due to issues with some of the features from 3.0.


    The feedback regarding the missing features has already been sent as well. Thank you so much for your patience, I will ask a little more about it. I do really understand where you guys are coming from as I am also waiting for the feature myself. Rest assured that we will let you know as soon as possible when it becomes available.


    ~Jib

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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-07-17 16:45:30
  • If in your server bracket there are two battlefields only and one has 36 people while the other has 66 then the feature is not working at all as they told us it should have worked in distributing the people, because if worked as they claimed when they showed us the x-server feature then you should have two fields with 51 people each one, the simple fact this does not happen means the way people is selected to go in a field IS NOT THE WAY THEY TOLD US.

    Anyways no, you are wrong. The issue you talk about would exist only in your field that is the top level 100 field, all the other fields would not experience that issue at all and still your field is experiencing that situation because the 19th-36th strongest person in your bracket, evidently, is not strong enough to be able to let you reach round 5+, thing that is more or less true only in your specifoc bracket and region and what you are not considering is the fact that right now the number of people that in a 90 field do not get any rewards is 60, in a 36 field is 6. If you are the 40-60th strongest in a bracket is the difference between getting 0 advanced refinements and getting 3-4 per time. The difference is huge.

The way they described the distribution is wrong, extremely wrong in fact. I'm the 2nd strongest in our spacetime group which makes up the people in our xswb, and yet I have been in both brackets fighting people who may have less than 5k power when i have almost 230k now on my main team. my servers top 10 randomly go into the lower bracket which we all hope for cause then we don't farm the weaklings until they get kicked. our top 10 are all lvl 100 btw.


the 6th-36th people in my bracket arent strong enough to go past 3 rounds against me, and thats a trend that continues down the list for a while. at least with larger brackets 1 team gets the team win rewards even if they get no individual rewards, when we have no choice but to farm some1 until they get kicked they get nothing at all and when we do that to 20+ people it becomes an issue that makes smaller swb less valuable to them, and the reason i care is because my group makes up those 20+ people as the majority


you say im wrong but you have yet to see what its like with small swb.

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  • Daiske On 2018-07-16 08:05:00
  • All I am going to say is that this week we will celebrate our second anniversary, dattebayo~


    Stay tuned!~~



It better be an amazing anniversary to make up for how poorly you have treated the players in the past year. I want to feel spoiled once while playing this game.


Also

Scarlettblue - The are indeed features that are only for players that buy ingots. But it is like that for a reason. it helps the game to survive and develop. Free to play players have the chance to obtain items from such features as well. But it will take them some time.


Survive? Free to play are what keep this game going. We are the majority, we keep the game active for your "pay to win" players. If every single Free to Play member were to quit right now, this game would be a ghost town. Yet a majority of the features that HELP FREE TO PLAY are "bugged?" Yet it's weird how not a single event ninja has ever been bugged? Or none of the pay to win content has ever been bugged? It's always the free to play content that has some miraculous "bug" that is so game breaking it gets put on hold.


We are missing so many breakthrough ninjas it's insane. Currently we get ONE breakthrough ninja a month. Really?


We got Sanin Oro Breakthrough, Sanin Jir breakthrough and SaninTsu....oh wait she was skipped because she helps out free to play.


Oasis needs to step up and stop being greedy. Yes, we know you are a business, but that doesn't mean you get to treat your players like garbage.


EDIT: A mod deleted my original post (As I suspected) because I mentioned the CN version. So I am reposting with that section removed. So now I am not breaking the rules and thus can't have my post deleted.




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  • Luminai On 2018-07-18 00:10:59
  • It better be an amazing anniversary to make up for how poorly you have treated the players in the past year. I want to feel spoiled once while playing this game.


    Also

    Scarlettblue - The are indeed features that are only for players that buy ingots. But it is like that for a reason. it helps the game to survive and develop. Free to play players have the chance to obtain items from such features as well. But it will take them some time.


    Survive? Free to play are what keep this game going. We are the majority, we keep the game active for your "pay to win" players. If every single Free to Play member were to quit right now, this game would be a ghost town. Yet a majority of the features that HELP FREE TO PLAY are "bugged?" Yet it's weird how not a single event ninja has ever been bugged? Or none of the pay to win content has ever been bugged? It's always the free to play content that has some miraculous "bug" that is so game breaking it gets put on hold.


    We are missing so many breakthrough ninjas it's insane. Currently we get ONE breakthrough ninja a month. Really?


    We got Sanin Oro Breakthrough, Sanin Jir breakthrough and SaninTsu....oh wait she was skipped because she helps out free to play.


    Oasis needs to step up and stop being greedy. Yes, we know you are a business, but that doesn't mean you get to treat your players like garbage.


    EDIT: A mod deleted my original post (As I suspected) because I mentioned the CN version. So I am reposting with that section removed. So now I am not breaking the rules and thus can't have my post deleted.

if the pay to play all quit you free to play dont even have a single server left open to play on. free to play need pay to play a lot more than pay to play need free to play, oasis could always just merge everyone into a couple servers if only p2p were left and we would fight on in a highly competitive game.


oasis needs money to incentivize them to keep the game open and f2p dont give them that, my server would look very similar to me if all f2p left, so get off your high horse.

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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-07-18 00:57:09
  • if the pay to play all quit you free to play dont even have a single server left open to play on. free to play need pay to play a lot more than pay to play need free to play, oasis could always just merge everyone into a couple servers if only p2p were left and we would fight on in a highly competitive game.


    oasis needs money to incentivize them to keep the game open and f2p dont give them that, my server would look very similar to me if all f2p left, so get off your high horse.

High Horse? You have a huge chip on your shoulder, wonder what that is from.


It is no secret that in any F2P game, the F2P are the majority of the player base. We help keep the game alive just as much as any P2W. Why do you think it's always the P2W complaining their server is dead?


Ok. If a single server was left open for all p2w with not a single f2p in sight, then a vast majority of the p2w will quit - Why? P2W want to be strong, hence why Oasis (Any game like NO) always has a ridiculous amount of servers - it is so the P2W will spread out. If all the P2W were in the same server with Kozo, most of them would just quit. But if a P2W is on a server with let's say 3-4 big P2W they can compete with and the rest of the server are F2P, then yes, the odds of them staying are greatly higher.


So yes, F2P are just as important to the game's health as any P2W.


You need to get over yourself.




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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-07-18 00:57:09
  • if the pay to play all quit you free to play dont even have a single server left open to play on. free to play need pay to play a lot more than pay to play need free to play, oasis could always just merge everyone into a couple servers if only p2p were left and we would fight on in a highly competitive game.


    oasis needs money to incentivize them to keep the game open and f2p dont give them that, my server would look very similar to me if all f2p left, so get off your high horse.

You do know the majority of the game is composed by free to play right...so yeah sometimes you gonna see events accessible to all players(yes even you as a spender), free to play need spenders and spenders need free to play.

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Hi guys! We are hoping to keep this discussion alive, but you guys need to be more respectful to each other. It is fine to have your own opinion and not agree on something, but let's not start calling names or disrespecting each other. Let's respect each other, we all have different opinion and should be able to express it. Please and thank you!


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  • Daiske On 2018-07-13 14:33:48
  • I have mentioned it few times. Missing content from version 3.0 was pushed back/cancelled due to serious technical problems that needed required amount of time to create fix, then testing and it could delay version 4.0 for months. We (publishers and developers) have chosen the lesser evil. Now, since it had to be delayed with no ETA or set date because at that point no one knew WHEN and IF missing features will be added. With that being said, all missing features and content from version 3.0 are delayed until further notice. You might ask "Wait, does that mean we might not get them at all?" Absolutely, its an option (not final decision). Company reserves right to change in-game content. Right now it is up to developers to decide if missing content from version 3.0 should be added or not and if yes when. And I know, you might say "But you have promised us to add such features. We demand it right now and right here." It was listed as one of the features that were supposed to be added during version 3.0. However, nothing is promised and we always ask you to strictly focus only on our version. In very very rare occasions, content might be different from other versions and especially mother version due to version differences. CN works on very different system th*.


    As for Ultimate Training and update to it - I don't recall it being promised or even mentioned somewhere. We are aware you would like to see new levels to Ultimate Training but at the moment there is no plan to update Ultimate training. We are currently focusing on other features and updates we would like to deliver to you.


    Just because I do not reply to some comments or threads does not mean no one reads them. Other moderators always inform me and rest of the team if there is something really special or something they see you mention a lot. Plus, everything I see and I find reasonable and normal I always note and discuss with the rest of the team. What you need to understand is that changes and updates are not made overnight and it takes time. *, yea I know but there is nothing I can do about it. I see a lot of comments discussing what is the relationship between Oasis and Tencent. Honestly? That is something you guys really should not worry about. Sometimes you would like to talk about things that we can't talk about with you due to it being confidential information or simply not public information. I do not think it is necessary for you to know all inside information to be able to enjoy the game. It is probably that you are interested in it. So I am not going to comment or answer comments regarding Oasis and its relationship with Tencent.


    Regarding update schedule:

    Why we do not share it with you? For very simple reason - because we do not want to. First of all, it would ruin the surprise factor for you if you knew what is coming and when it is coming. Next reason could be that it is considered as confidential information and I really do not know any company that shares its schedule with its community. If there is such company, props to them.

    If we were to share such thing with you, it is a huge risk we just don't want to take. There is a lot of changes and updates to our schedules that can happen anytime. So just imagine we release schedule that says version 5.0 will be released this year during September. BUT, 1 week before release of version 5.0, during last and final testing we discover serious bug that should not and will not be implemented to live servers. And what does it mean? Version 5.0 is going to be delayed. There would be a lot of negative and angry comments and discussions about it. Or for example we would make change to our schedule and you would would require us to explain the change or you will not like the change. There is a lot of factors, a lot of negative factors that will cause more problems than good if we were to do such thing. Take missing features from version 3.0 and real and live example and that is something we do not want to happen again.


    Hope this clears all of the confusion.

"We (publishers and developers) have chosen the lesser evil. Now, since it had to be delayed with no ETA or set date because at that point no one knew WHEN and IF missing features will be added. With that being said, all missing features and content from version 3.0 are delayed until further notice. You might ask "Wait, does that mean we might not get them at all?" Absolutely, its an option (not final decision). Company reserves right to change in-game content. Right now it is up to developers to decide if missing content from version 3.0 should be added or not and if yes when."

Is this for real? Ok ok, 1 thing is that Oas changes some of the game content that comes from CN, or Tencent, or whatever. But you can't just tell your customers, after all the hype and all the announcement that some things might get or not get implemented, because you DID announced those missing features and with such certainty. Now you claim that it was never a sure thing? Imho OAS came up with this out of the blue. That, to my eyes, is false adverti*t, is it not? If you were not sure what to implement and what not, just don't announce anything at all and just launch whatever features you want the patches to bring. It's sad that the majority of the player base now believe that your words and promises are just empty.

PS. This has nothing to do with features/patches but I still haven't forgotten about the PM I sent to you Daiske about 1 or 2 months ago, it was completely ignored and eventually deleted.

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Garv - Features like Battle Armor were never supposed to be focused on F2P. Indeed, this feature is strongly focused on paying customers. But F2P players have chance to take advantage and participate in this feature as well. They can buy or receive items for this feature from shops or SA. It will take them a lot of time, indeed, but it is not completely out of their league. We don't feel there is any reason or need to change or update this specific feature. There is no explanation I could or should give you. It is up to you and your decision if you invest this feature or not. It is your choice.


Shadoblaze - I've explained in my previous comment our polls from past and also what we were able to learn from that experience. We promised something and we were not able to keep our promise. Due to this reason, we don't plan on releasing or re-introducing polls. We strongly believe that feedback we receive from you every week helps us and gives us an idea what you would like to see next week or in near future. But of course, not everything you suggest or request can be fulfilled.


Poring - You will find out later today.


Empheezie - What Tobei said is absolutely correct. If our moderators are not sure about something or they are not informed yet about specific things, they usually come to me or someone else from the team. Missing features from 3.0 were delayed/cancelled due to serious technical issue we had to take care of. It took some time but game had to move on. Few months passed (including testing) and the decision was not still made. We were not able to come to a conclusion so all missing features from 3.0 are cancelled until developers decide to add them to the game. Will we add them? Are they cancelled forever? There is no straight answer I could give you to those questions. All I can say - everything is possible. But what I can tell you is that there is no plan to add them at the moment and we are currently planning to move to new version of the game.



Serenade - Actually, yes we can. We reserve the right to change our plans or release schedule. (that is also one of the reasons why we don't share our plans and schedule with you). We have informed our community why missing features from 3.0 are still not here. Our plan was to release them but we were not able to serious technical problems we had at that time. It took quiet some time and game had to move on. We updated version of the game, we added new features. For this reason, missing features from that version were cancelled and it is now up to developers to decide if and when they will be added.

But it does not change the fact that we (publishers and developers) can decide anytime if and what will change. We manage the game.

Regarding your private message. I am really sorry if you feel ignored, that is not the case. I am not replying to private messages I get from players. Reason is very simple - I do not have time for that. I get a lot of messages daily and most of them (from what I was able to see) are questions about updates or new events. Answers to other questions can be found here on forum. If you still feel the need to communicate with someone, you are more than welcome to contact one of the moderators. They are aware I am not replying to messages and they will assist you for sure. If I were to reply to all messages I get I wouldn't be able to take care of other things.


I have seen few comments that claim we are lying to you or you not trusting us. I am really sorry to hear that. But if that is the case, I don't find this thread or any future threads helpful since you will not believe us and in the end it will cause only more trouble. I believe that if you will trust us little bit more, it will create more space for us to be transparent with you. After all, we are here for you and you are here for us. You are the reason why this game exists.

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  • Daiske On 2018-07-18 11:05:11
  • Garv - Features like Battle Armor were never supposed to be focused on F2P. Indeed, this feature is strongly focused on paying customers. But F2P players have chance to take advantage and participate in this feature as well. They can buy or receive items for this feature from shops or SA. It will take them a lot of time, indeed, but it is not completely out of their league. We don't feel there is any reason or need to change or update this specific feature. There is no explanation I could or should give you. It is up to you and your decision if you invest this feature or not. It is your choice.


    Shadoblaze - I've explained in my previous comment our polls from past and also what we were able to learn from that experience. We promised something and we were not able to keep our promise. Due to this reason, we don't plan on releasing or re-introducing polls. We strongly believe that feedback we receive from you every week helps us and gives us an idea what you would like to see next week or in near future. But of course, not everything you suggest or request can be fulfilled.


    Poring - You will find out later today.


    Empheezie - What Tobei said is absolutely correct. If our moderators are not sure about something or they are not informed yet about specific things, they usually come to me or someone else from the team. Missing features from 3.0 were delayed/cancelled due to serious technical issue we had to take care of. It took some time but game had to move on. Few months passed (including testing) and the decision was not still made. We were not able to come to a conclusion so all missing features from 3.0 are cancelled until developers decide to add them to the game. Will we add them? Are they cancelled forever? There is no straight answer I could give you to those questions. All I can say - everything is possible. But what I can tell you is that there is no plan to add them at the moment and we are currently planning to move to new version of the game.



    Serenade - Actually, yes we can. We reserve the right to change our plans or release schedule. (that is also one of the reasons why we don't share our plans and schedule with you). We have informed our community why missing features from 3.0 are still not here. Our plan was to release them but we were not able to serious technical problems we had at that time. It took quiet some time and game had to move on. We updated version of the game, we added new features. For this reason, missing features from that version were cancelled and it is now up to developers to decide if and when they will be added.

    But it does not change the fact that we (publishers and developers) can decide anytime if and what will change. We manage the game.

    Regarding your private message. I am really sorry if you feel ignored, that is not the case. I am not replying to private messages I get from players. Reason is very simple - I do not have time for that. I get a lot of messages daily and most of them (from what I was able to see) are questions about updates or new events. Answers to other questions can be found here on forum. If you still feel the need to communicate with someone, you are more than welcome to contact one of the moderators. They are aware I am not replying to messages and they will assist you for sure. If I were to reply to all messages I get I wouldn't be able to take care of other things.


    I have seen few comments that claim we are lying to you or you not trusting us. I am really sorry to hear that. But if that is the case, I don't find this thread or any future threads helpful since you will not believe us and in the end it will cause only more trouble. I believe that if you will trust us little bit more, it will create more space for us to be transparent with you. After all, we are here for you and you are here for us. You are the reason why this game exists.

I don't want polls like the old ones either, offering things that you can't 100% give is a bad idea because if you don't give it to us after offering it it will cause animosity.


The type of polls I want would be for the small things that you have full control over and are easy to change/consistently changing like the monthly sign in ninja.

Also I reiterate, the current format from the event feedback is incomplete to get a complete understanding for how players feel, it only asks about events for that week not other aspects of the game, and since the results aren't public we can't know if what we ask for is ever done. For all we know most people are asking for something and it's getting done but the people asking are being quiet on the forums because they are getting what they want and see no need to post(or people have given up because they don't feel like there is progress).


At the very least I would like to see a public result list for the simple questions(non fill in the blank) that are in the event feedback and another feedback form for basic things about the game outside of the weekly events.



When people have been talking about battle armor being too expensive they are saying that it is so expensive that any new person joining the game and spending $10k would be better off ignoring it because it isn't worth as much stats as other features that you can spend all of that money on. To be quite honest unless they are spending $50k+ on this game(just in power no ninjas) i would suggest they ignore battle armor because its worth that little that something else will always beat it in terms of gains. Even at 40% off with the buying thread event and the rank up rebate and an ingot spending event battle armor is still not worth the current price compared to summon cultivation or mt myoboku, and I'm at map 14 in mt myoboku where it costs 281 gifts per land.



Our trust shouldn't impact your transparency in anyway. The main reason most people don't trust you guys is because of the LACK of transparency after all. The more transparent you are with us the more reason we would have to trust you, we might not like what you are saying, but most would accept it anyway, like when you said you couldn't use pictures on the event thread because of permission issues with whoever( i forget exactly what you said it was a while ago after all, feel free to specify the exact reason if you like), people who didn't see your response still question it(should have *ied it) and most of us thought "that *s, oh well, next issue" and moved on.

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