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On 2018-07-04 00:24:20Show this Author Only
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  • Cyproheptadine On 2018-07-03 20:54:51
  • " why the P2W plunders the players while they are always charging ingots?" they recharging ingot to become stronger, if u play smart, u dont give someone chance to become strong, and the question is " did p2w ALWAYS charging ingots?"


    and i understand too bcs im f2p too. when i am low lvl, i always got plunder by people with high level, high power, or better ninja and its really frustating, so when i have the right to do plunder, i did it. what i mean before is people who got plunder by p2w shouldnt complain bcs p2w make this game ruining. sorry i dont mean to insult u

yes they do , also they game to collect ninjas not power this thing don't need to be " SMART " to understand and and why we can't to complain about them ?

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On 2018-07-04 01:29:00Show this Author Only
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yes indeed to bad i wont be like him i still want to plunder people :)

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On 2018-07-04 01:33:57Show this Author Only
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  • Waka_Man On 2018-07-03 14:46:47
  • Don't ask, that's different story ..


    I actually felt good with that scenario in your screenshot, i experienced plundering from heavy p2w before and the only thing he says after doing it is "sorry, need coupons man" while he can spend 35k ingots just to get this brand new ninja just released this afternoon .. While me, the only source of income i have is this Convoy SS .. It is acceptable if my fellow f2p plundered me since it is a battle for survival among our kind but being plundered with p2w, man, that's merciless and cruel ..

exactly




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On 2018-07-04 01:37:35Show this Author Only
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  • Cyproheptadine On 2018-07-03 19:54:21
  • if u got plunder then do plunder too, but dont complain if u got plunder bcs u also do the same, the one who has right to complain is the one who cant or do not plunder

i think the issue is p2w plundering f2p..

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On 2018-07-04 01:41:55Show this Author Only
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  • Light1 On 2018-07-04 01:37:35
  • i think the issue is p2w plundering f2p..

finally someone , get it easily

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On 2018-07-04 05:00:10Show this Author Only
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Honestly, I don't bother with plundering even though I can. So I just take my 35 coupons. I didn't like it when I was being plundered constantly for a month or 2, so I won't put someone else through that.

On the other server I play however, I try to stay out of the level range for plundering.

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On 2018-07-04 16:34:06Show this Author Only
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You are basically saying that p2w should not plunder on behalf of consideration towards f2p. I am talking about normal plunder, not bullying a specific player.


So by extension, p2w should not be allowed to plunder. That is the bottom line. I believe that the vast majority of players have plundered other players. So complaining about a stronger player plundering you is like complaining getting beat in sage by another player. The game mechanic works like that. What I find hypocritical is that if the plunder is a f2p or semi f2p then all is good, if he is a p2w then he is an abussive player bullying the weak. The difference between them is only that one spent money in the game. Again arguments such as you can pay are irrelevant, everyone likes mechanics that lets you get free stuff and DISCRIMINATING someone just because he has money is not acceptable.


Furthermore, It’s unrealistic to think that you should only plunder people who are around your bp, the top players on a server, f2p low cashers or otherwise all plunder and rarely do convoy.


Also any arguments about p2w whining and “ acting as if they own the game” do not apply to this conversation or to me, so the are moot.


People are entitled to heir opinions, I find that thinking that a p2w should not plunder a f2p is because he spends money is hypocritical. Specially if the f2p also plunders.


I’ll finish by saying that I was a f2p for some months shen j started playing this game. So i have gotten plundered, but I also did plunder so i never thought of it as unfair that a stronger player targeted me from time to time.

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On 2018-07-04 16:51:19Show this Author Only
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  • Armand_ On 2018-07-04 16:34:06
  • You are basically saying that p2w should not plunder on behalf of consideration towards f2p. I am talking about normal plunder, not bullying a specific player.


    So by extension, p2w should not be allowed to plunder. That is the bottom line. I believe that the vast majority of players have plundered other players. So complaining about a stronger player plundering you is like complaining getting beat in sage by another player. The game mechanic works like that. What I find hypocritical is that if the plunder is a f2p or semi f2p then all is good, if he is a p2w then he is an abussive player bullying the weak. The difference between them is only that one spent money in the game. Again arguments such as you can pay are irrelevant, everyone likes mechanics that lets you get free stuff and DISCRIMINATING someone just because he has money is not acceptable.


    Furthermore, It’s unrealistic to think that you should only plunder people who are around your bp, the top players on a server, f2p low cashers or otherwise all plunder and rarely do convoy.


    Also any arguments about p2w whining and “ acting as if they own the game” do not apply to this conversation or to me, so the are moot.


    People are entitled to heir opinions, I find that thinking that a p2w should not plunder a f2p is because he spends money is hypocritical. Specially if the f2p also plunders.


    I’ll finish by saying that I was a f2p for some months shen j started playing this game. So i have gotten plundered, but I also did plunder so i never thought of it as unfair that a stronger player targeted me from time to time.

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On 2018-07-04 16:52:49Show this Author Only
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  • Armand_ On 2018-07-04 16:34:06
  • You are basically saying that p2w should not plunder on behalf of consideration towards f2p. I am talking about normal plunder, not bullying a specific player.


    So by extension, p2w should not be allowed to plunder. That is the bottom line. I believe that the vast majority of players have plundered other players. So complaining about a stronger player plundering you is like complaining getting beat in sage by another player. The game mechanic works like that. What I find hypocritical is that if the plunder is a f2p or semi f2p then all is good, if he is a p2w then he is an abussive player bullying the weak. The difference between them is only that one spent money in the game. Again arguments such as you can pay are irrelevant, everyone likes mechanics that lets you get free stuff and DISCRIMINATING someone just because he has money is not acceptable.


    Furthermore, It’s unrealistic to think that you should only plunder people who are around your bp, the top players on a server, f2p low cashers or otherwise all plunder and rarely do convoy.


    Also any arguments about p2w whining and “ acting as if they own the game” do not apply to this conversation or to me, so the are moot.


    People are entitled to heir opinions, I find that thinking that a p2w should not plunder a f2p is because he spends money is hypocritical. Specially if the f2p also plunders.


    I’ll finish by saying that I was a f2p for some months shen j started playing this game. So i have gotten plundered, but I also did plunder so i never thought of it as unfair that a stronger player targeted me from time to time.

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all what you say is the truth 100%

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On 2018-07-04 16:58:18Show this Author Only
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  • Armand_ On 2018-07-04 16:34:06
  • You are basically saying that p2w should not plunder on behalf of consideration towards f2p. I am talking about normal plunder, not bullying a specific player.


    So by extension, p2w should not be allowed to plunder. That is the bottom line. I believe that the vast majority of players have plundered other players. So complaining about a stronger player plundering you is like complaining getting beat in sage by another player. The game mechanic works like that. What I find hypocritical is that if the plunder is a f2p or semi f2p then all is good, if he is a p2w then he is an abussive player bullying the weak. The difference between them is only that one spent money in the game. Again arguments such as you can pay are irrelevant, everyone likes mechanics that lets you get free stuff and DISCRIMINATING someone just because he has money is not acceptable.


    Furthermore, It’s unrealistic to think that you should only plunder people who are around your bp, the top players on a server, f2p low cashers or otherwise all plunder and rarely do convoy.


    Also any arguments about p2w whining and “ acting as if they own the game” do not apply to this conversation or to me, so the are moot.


    People are entitled to heir opinions, I find that thinking that a p2w should not plunder a f2p is because he spends money is hypocritical. Specially if the f2p also plunders.


    I’ll finish by saying that I was a f2p for some months shen j started playing this game. So i have gotten plundered, but I also did plunder so i never thought of it as unfair that a stronger player targeted me from time to time.

You didn't get the point of what we're saying, yes, it is part of the game and me for example didn't say that P2W should not plunder F2P .. But, the scenarios and situation may change if the said P2W is the kind of people who can spend anytime they want, you know, the word "Rich Kid" in real life that pulls their wallet anytime they want .. That's the kind of P2W that was plundering me before for months .. Do not focus on words we typed but focus on an@lyzing the scenarios of the said replies ..


And yes, "Also any arguments about p2w whining and “ acting as if they own the game” do not apply to this conversation or to me, so the are moot." is not relevant to the topic but i just used that scenario to give example or explain how F2P feels when they got plundered by someone like i said above .. It is just a example of similarity when it comes to reactions and feelings of the lower-end party ..


Hypocrisy, maybe yes, but not all the time .. With your arguement "F2P also Plunders" then yes, F2P really plunders too since that's is one of the best way for them, for us to earn coupons to get something we need or want .. Aside from that is doing our SS Convoy which is usually targeted by the big guys .. But the fact that P2Ws like the one i mentioned at my first paragraph plunders F2P who never experienced Ingots in their account will be cruel and that is something i condemn ..


You will never understand how F2P feels since you just played F2P for a couple of weeks or months, just a short time compared to players like me who's been playing for years without spending a cent in the game to get something nice to help us in our everyday venture here in the game .. Try to put yourself in our shoes and tell me what you feel about being plundered by the kinds of P2Ws i mentioned above ..


#F2P




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  • Waka_Man On 2018-07-04 16:58:18
  • You didn't get the point of what we're saying, yes, it is part of the game and me for example didn't say that P2W should not plunder F2P .. But, the scenarios and situation may change if the said P2W is the kind of people who can spend anytime they want, you know, the word "Rich Kid" in real life that pulls their wallet anytime they want .. That's the kind of P2W that was plundering me before for months .. Do not focus on words we typed but focus on an@lyzing the scenarios of the said replies ..


    And yes, "Also any arguments about p2w whining and “ acting as if they own the game” do not apply to this conversation or to me, so the are moot." is not relevant to the topic but i just used that scenario to give example or explain how F2P feels when they got plundered by someone like i said above .. It is just a example of similarity when it comes to reactions and feelings of the lower-end party ..


    Hypocrisy, maybe yes, but not all the time .. With your arguement "F2P also Plunders" then yes, F2P really plunders too since that's is one of the best way for them, for us to earn coupons to get something we need or want .. Aside from that is doing our SS Convoy which is usually targeted by the big guys .. But the fact that P2Ws like the one i mentioned at my first paragraph plunders F2P who never experienced Ingots in their account will be cruel and that is something i condemn ..


    You will never understand how F2P feels since you just played F2P for a couple of weeks or months, just a short time compared to players like me who's been playing for years without spending a cent in the game to get something nice to help us in our everyday venture here in the game .. Try to put yourself in our shoes and tell me what you feel about being plundered by the kinds of P2Ws i mentioned above ..


    #F2P

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and they never know what we feel everytime sadly

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On 2018-07-04 20:00:52Show this Author Only
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  • Armand_ On 2018-07-04 16:34:06
  • You are basically saying that p2w should not plunder on behalf of consideration towards f2p. I am talking about normal plunder, not bullying a specific player.


    So by extension, p2w should not be allowed to plunder. That is the bottom line. I believe that the vast majority of players have plundered other players. So complaining about a stronger player plundering you is like complaining getting beat in sage by another player. The game mechanic works like that. What I find hypocritical is that if the plunder is a f2p or semi f2p then all is good, if he is a p2w then he is an abussive player bullying the weak. The difference between them is only that one spent money in the game. Again arguments such as you can pay are irrelevant, everyone likes mechanics that lets you get free stuff and DISCRIMINATING someone just because he has money is not acceptable.


    Furthermore, It’s unrealistic to think that you should only plunder people who are around your bp, the top players on a server, f2p low cashers or otherwise all plunder and rarely do convoy.


    Also any arguments about p2w whining and “ acting as if they own the game” do not apply to this conversation or to me, so the are moot.


    People are entitled to heir opinions, I find that thinking that a p2w should not plunder a f2p is because he spends money is hypocritical. Specially if the f2p also plunders.


    I’ll finish by saying that I was a f2p for some months shen j started playing this game. So i have gotten plundered, but I also did plunder so i never thought of it as unfair that a stronger player targeted me from time to time.

i hope everybody who comments in this thread to read this.

is the issue still p2w plunder f2p? lol


edit: everybody has right to plunder guys




This post was last edited by Cyproheptadine on 2018-07-04 20:01:50.
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On 2018-07-04 20:34:51Show this Author Only
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  • Raizel Di Cadiz On 2018-07-03 20:11:34
  • what we are trying to say here is why the P2W plunders the players while they are always charging ingots , when all F2P always fight to survival because it's not easy to us to collect those coupons while you can recharing ingots and spend them like nothing to you and you don't need those coupons when you have ingots

    did you understand ?

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On 2018-07-04 20:46:11Show this Author Only
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Hi guys! I think this is starting to go quite a bit off-topic from the original intention.


Let's be each other's heroes. Be kind, be respectful, and never be afraid to make friends =]


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