Earth Main. Whale. Uses Super Armor.

Poor Earth Main, has no chase, which interrupts Mysteries. LM does not even have AoE Auto-Attack. Wind main has no chance of protecting males (which are like the waste majority of super rares). SB so lucky.

Poor Earth Main, has no chase, which interrupts Mysteries. LM does not even have AoE Auto-Attack. Wind main has no chance of protecting males (which are like the waste majority of super rares). SB so lucky.

sb need to be nerfed lmao, you are haunted bro

Bruh if u use earth main that don't mean he's superamazingomggodcallpoliceoofIdontbeliveinJezusIbeliveinearthmain

The "weaknesses" of fire main is every freaking main's weakness if you don't have enough initiative/good timing, and you're overrating permanent immunity buffs.

1.To stop ppl Interrupting mirror, you can interrupt the interrupter. Also every other main's ability can be interrupted like dance of impetus, and weighted bolder.

2. Fire main is weaker than light main is pure garbage, light main depends to much on buffs and the ninjas he buffs are quite squishy(except kimmimaro), while fire main can literally synergize with any ninja. Light main is the one that needs a buff.

3. Stopping combos on every main is easy, chaos earth main or combo into cc(if he't not using super amror), use a buff remover in r1 and combo on wind main. If they try to kurenai, use interruption to stop her. Water main use double cc. Light main just look at wind main.

4. In high lvl gameplay(space time), if you're using the top 3 mains, fire, wind and earth it won't matter who's using the better main it's all on initiative/ninjas.

For that with double mirrors (each player has a mirror), you must attack first with the debuff, then he will receive the debuff you intend to use, otherwise, if he uses it first, you'll get the debuff at the end. It works like this - you send the debuff first, it reflects on his mirror, his mirror is down now, that debuff that deflected from his mirror WILL DEFLECT at your mirror and he will receive the initial debuff.

Plus, you can't prove your point because you are running whale vs whale ninjas, you have masked man and minato...you are considered as whale too, or definitely as pay to win yourself. When equal people match then it's obviously going to be a fight who has the initial and right universal ninjas that works against anyone. In those cases you have no reason to blame on mains if it's 1:1 teams and setups, it's just a broken game idea to have metas as such, no competition.

I can blame both metas and mains because I don't have those ninjas, and almost always I stumble upon these metas in arenas that I can't do anything against, and the fact that these metas are boosted with the skills of those specific mains or ninjas that can fight independently without the buffs and skills of the main, which are considered in that case as somewhat broken, or op.

I see some people saying how SB is considered OP instead of weak because whales are using him. Well first of all, whale's population are very low compare to majority of player base. Just because few % of players at the top find him "op" doesn't mean he is actually op for the rest. This was the same case as CF in the past, back in 1.0 and 2.0, he was considered god tier among the whale because his shield are just straight up op and there were so little to no way to counter shield back then, but he also was garbage among the normal players.

Same case here for SB, whales are using him mostly because 2 reasons. His mirror and 4th mystery, these two provide great unity without condition that allow whales to pick any carry ninja they want. Beside that the rest of his kit are ignorable because how lack luster it is compare to others. But majority of players who are not whale can't just depend only that 2 things, they need more.

From 1.0 to 4.0, most changes SB received were just nerf left and right while other got buffed. Want me to list some for you guys in case you are new?
- His mirror return used to had another effect that allow him and his team deal increase damage on ignited targets.

- His 2nd mystery used to had a mini unparalleled built in. All they did was nerfed it and waste a new talent slot for unparalleled.

- His Red Lotus buff used to buff blood limit ninjas instead of secret jutsu user and I'm pretty sure there are more f2p friendly blood limit ninjas than f2p secret jutsu user ninjas out there.

- His Oboro clone used to be able to attack on it own and cause imprison effect, high chance of cause repluse.

- His Bani Chakra used to be able to ignite 1 random target and delete buffs on them.

- His Death Mrrage used to be able to cancel 1 debuff on 2 random targets in your team and recover 20 chakra.

Just look at all that and look at him now. He is just a shadow of his previous self.

So, how to fix SB for everyone and not just for whale? Reduce his unity and increase his own gimmick is the way.

- Give him back his increase damage to ignited target, no need to put it into mirror, just put it into Ninjutsu Urge.

- Make his Bani Chakra ignire 2 random targets and recover 10 chakra for each unit that succesfully got ignited.

- Make him interact with blood limit ninjas again instead of secret user.

- Make his 2nd mystery cause ignite to all targets that get hit, I always wonder why MB allowed to paralyzed with his mystery when fire main can't ignite with his mystery. Feel free to decrease the damage deal like 70-80% to make it balance and won't render his 1st mystery useless.

- Make his 4th mystery no longer able to make his whole team immune for 1 round. Just delete debuffs.

- And his 3rd mystery work like CN.

Done, you have a fire maniac with ignited gimmick to play around instead of a fodder for the 1st round mystery then stand there and look pretty rest of the match.

Lemme guess, SB main?