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[ Scarlet Blaze ] Why Scarlet Blaze is Weak and Some Suggestion

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On 2018-04-09 06:36:32Show All Posts
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90% of the whales are SB, i suppose is because they love the 'weakest' main.

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On 2018-04-09 06:37:27Show All Posts
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  • S440-Genesis On 2018-04-09 01:36:44
  • Tbh currently fire main is kinda weak...just saying

it is, the problem is that gives exactly what is needed to whalish teams to work fine.

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On 2018-04-09 21:01:28Show All Posts
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  • xxMihai On 2018-04-09 20:11:32
  • Or actually replace Bani Chakra, the most useless passive in the game.

the most useless passive there is in the game is arena prowess of LM, after it comes reserve seal from AF.

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On 2018-04-09 21:02:43Show All Posts
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  • takosabi On 2018-04-09 07:43:24
  • Might have been the case way back in the day. Now it's a pretty even between Earth and Fire at least based on space time and my servers individual rankings.

    That being said, I agree with the original post that it would be nice if the normal attack had a chase condition on more than just 1 of them. And if ninjustu urge was 25% like lightning main.

obviously i said 90% as an exaggeration. But yes, currently is 70% fire, 30% earth, at least in my space time.

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On 2018-04-09 21:18:06Show All Posts
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  • xxMihai On 2018-04-09 20:08:38
  • First of all Scarlet Blaze lacks any clear debuffs or immunity on himself and other characters, accupuncture him round 1 and he can't do anything about it, unless you waste a ninja slot on a useless character like Gakido. Replace one of his standard attacks with a lightning main calm mind for example. Yea he can bait dodge with his fourth standard but he's gonna be slot 3-4 ninja anyway, cause he's only good for support.

    Look at Lightning Main, immunity to 3 sword ninjas and 100% more resistance. Not only you can't debuff them, unless you have Han/Mask Man/Kushina Red. Cause round 2 may be already too late if they have more initiative, but you also do 100% less damage with ninjutsu. Considering sword ninjas are meta ninjas, lightning main will only have 1 spot that may drag the team down, which isn't the case if he puts Kushina Red, or any other good immune, dodge ninja, super armor ninja. Basically if you can't debuff them you lost the fight.

    Look at Wind Main, they stack res and def on her, make her immune, then you waste combo on her, they use Kurenai's shield on her, then she clears everyone's debuffs and can do mysteries all over again.

    Now look at Fire Main, only has 1 good mystery, Illusion-Mirroring jutsu, 3 round cooldown, if it gets interrupted it's GG, if you get immobilized your clone is only a meatshield, not as good as water's clone, or wind main's.

    Let's look at Fire Main in comparison to Lightning again, Lightning has better leech, with Warrior's Killing Intent he c*e Shisui every round. You only have 1 good pvp passive as SB, Genjutsu Mirror, which can be easily baited, while LM gets Root of Warrior, Anbu Special Tactics and Warrior's Killing Intent, also Heart Flux for Madara Blitz Teams. LM has Accupuncture, AOE Paralysis, Lightning Armor, and potential every round mystery. SB still only Illusion Mirror for pvp.

    SUGGESTIONS for Scarlet Blaze improvement:

    1. Make Illusion-Mirroring Jutsu 2 round cooldown instead of 3.

    2. Replace one of his standard attacks with one similar to Lightning Main's Calm Mind.

    3. Make his clone attack on it's own, using Scarlet Blaze's Fire Style-Bomb Blast. Make it have 60% of it's owner HP instead of 40%. Basically same % as Water Main's version of it.

    4. Make Ninjutsu Urge leech for 25% and improve ninjutsu by 25%. Basically same % as LM's version of it. Keep Genjutsu Mirror where it is, his only redeeming passive.

    5. Last but not least, give him Immunity Passive to 3 fire ninjas and 100% resistance, name it Root of Fire and replace Death Mirage with it.

    There is no point in having a talent slot, a weaker clone of someone else's talent, cause it still wastes one talent slot.

    Now BRB while I switch to Lightning Main, seem to be the better option for PvP.



1. Make Illusion-Mirroring Jutsu 2 round cooldown instead of 3.


If they make shark bomb a 0 rounds starting cd with a cost of 20 chakra instead of 40 i could be ok with it.


2. Replace one of his standard attacks with one similar to Lightning Main's Calm Mind.


I'm ok with it as far as healing jutsu (the 2nd standard attack) first removes debuff and then heals and if may be used even if azure fang is under sleep/immobile/chaos effect only on herself


3. Make his clone attack on it's own, using Scarlet Blaze's Fire Style-Bomb Blast. Make it have 60% of it's owner HP instead of 40%.Basically same % as Water Main's version of it.


If water main clone can be used together with poison tai or together with experimental ninjutsu and gets 100% of the original main stats i'm ok with it.


4. Make Ninjutsu Urge leech for 25% and improve ninjutsu by 25%. Basically same % as LM's version of it. Keep Genjutsu Mirror where it is, his only redeeming passive.


If nature energy gathering grants also a selfhealing of 12% total hp every time azure fang gets chakra and if the ninjutsu boost goes also to healings i'm ok with it.


5. Last but not least, give him Immunity Passive to 3 fire ninjas and 100% resistance, name it Root of Fire and replace Death Mirage with it.


If reserve seal increases crit chance by 4% per stack and selfheals also if azure fang is ignited i'm ok with it.



Just know that what i asked as compensation is more or less what is needed to rebalance what you asked.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-04-09 21:19:54.
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On 2018-04-10 22:12:51Show All Posts
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  • Exvius On 2018-04-09 21:39:05
  • I don't even understand your compensations lol. You gave "compensations" without even explaining why they would compensate. That's not how discussions should go...

LoL, i thought was clear i was suggesting things that made no sense, but i did it to make him understand how unreasonable were his requests.

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On 2018-04-11 02:27:54Show All Posts
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  • Tobei On 2018-04-10 19:21:11
  • It's not a matter of her synergy, It's what she doesn't offer besides Healing.

    Additionally, she's a consistent target. Anybody with Kurama, Deidara, etc will melt her. She's not popular till core Supports come out and even then, those Supports are better paired with Wind Main (Beach Sakura)

I'm pretty sure he meant that exists at least one team with her that beats on comparable power all the 'optimal' teams you talked about.

(i am perfectly able to figure one, guessing what he wanted to say).





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On 2018-04-23 19:56:51Show All Posts
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  • Attac an Respec On 2018-04-23 04:38:39
  • whales only use SB to support their other 7k$ teams. they don't use SB because to win they use him to ''enable'' their madaras and itachis to win then the match.

eh, and what did i say?

so how can be the weakest main if let you work the team that is exactly the purpose of any main character?





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On 2018-04-24 22:09:42Show All Posts
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  • xxMihai On 2018-04-24 20:50:50
  • It would make absolutely 0 sense, Scarlet Blaze is Sharingan/Genjutsu/Fire, and Azure Fang is healer who uses Senjutsu I believe.

    How can you swap Uchiha ability with Sage mode ability lol.

he means it would make sense for the actual in-game balancing, not for the naruto plot story part...

btw i'm actually on his side in this situation. I think too that scarlet blaze is just too easy to play together with some lineups.

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