since the day 1 i used 10 coupons to roll twice per day.

Got, so far, 2 purple and 4 blue essences, 0 gold.

P.S. we are always deceived. When we roll in lucky star wheel don't we all think the 80 fragments have a 1/8 chance to be rolled? the same for every wheel there is in the game.

I'm not sure if you figured this out but the card flip system in Team Instance does not give choice of rewards when you select a reward. If you receive a stronger ninja tool you would automatically get the message of getting a strong ninja tool right after the match ends and before you have the chance to select a tool. I'm sure the same mechanism is applied in Treasure Tool essense.

What Danzo said above is true- that really doesn't matter which card you pick, as reward is decided before you do so. And I'm pretty sure that it does apply to mine cards too. So, you just have some tiny chance of getting essence and just the click count not your pick. As for me- so far I got one purple essence from those but I go for just the free draws.

But I strongly agree that it would be nice to have a chance of some other rewards from these cards, like mentioned Cave Keys, especially that beside one free draw, there are coupons involved and getting ores for them is not really so great :S

The card you choose doest make any difference, Same as TI like Danzo said. Its already determined what reward you will get. That being said, yes the chance of getting the gold esense isnt high, i use 10 coupons for second attempt evey time there is a purple or gold essence and so far i didnt get a single gold one, and i do it for both my accs everyday. While a guy from my server already got 4 golds thats way. Its about luck, chance isnt 33.3% , wouldnt make sense for such valuable item to have so high chance of drop. But it isnt a 0% chance either.

Same. I've stopped doing the second card flip as I've not pulled an essence once. I only focus on pulling when there's no iron without caring which essence is present.

I will say that I've gotten a golden essence once. I've been flipping twice per day but still it's pretty dang lucky. At least we know its not a scam of 0% maybe its just .0001%

I got 1 Blue Tool Essence before, and just got 1 Blue Essence again today .. Never got the Purple or Golden one .. -_-

this happened today:

just to prove it happens.

You are comparing lucky wheel with lots of chances, like...12 chances to win something, in lucky wheel it's 1/12th and considering the fixated rate of the grand prize, I must say it is more than just 1/12, if you got that 1/12 chance finally, it will have another 1/12 you must hit to get it. Where in this flip card thingy it's not the same, it's a bit lesser, of course gold one is really valuable, but I haven't gotten not even a blue one, not once, so it's more sadder than the lucky wheel where getting something is satisfactory nonetheless, since mostly there are prizes that are usable even if you don't get the grand prize, which is not what I even tend to am for, since i know it's pointless to bother, so I am there only for the casual power items.

I suppose I am super unlucky, I haven't gotten anything much from similar events.

I know it doesn't matter, but that's not the point why I said that...clearly.

I know it a long time ago from just TI event flipping, but that's not the point of why I even bothered to say it, I am merely making a point here that even this crap is so fixated.

in lucky wheels is not 1/12 at all.

In lucky star wheel for example the chance to get seal scroll, 10 lucky stars or the 2nd top prize are way lower than 1/8, they are something like 1/50 or 1/100 while the chance to get the top reward is 1/1600 i think.

btw, i got another purple essence today. you have been indeed unlucky.

Well I had to point it out since it seems like you didn't know about after finding something strange was occuring. Personally, if you're a f2p, spending your coupons on this is a bit risky and have a better use for them else where.

Did you even read the rest of my response? And anyway you wrote a whole paragraph about how you were choosing the card on the left and middle and etc and now you say thats not the point and you know it doesnt matter when you said it was rigged because of it? And you rly think the chance is 33.3% regardless of how valuable he reward is? ofc not, gold essence is worth 15 purple ones so why should it that easy to obtain? Just because you didnt get one doesnt mean the chance is 0% but yeah ofc its low. I havent got one from mine plundering either and i try every day with both my accs and so far got a few purples and no gold. But some people from my server have, even twice. Stop calling everything rigged.

It is predetermined as said above. Yet I noticed and I find it kinda funny .. if you flip the middle card, treasure essence is always on the right. If you flip the right one it is always on the left and if you flip the left one it is always on the mid. Tbh they should just delete those flipping cards and just give the reward immidiately.

Yep. If your choice is useless you are right.

My problem is that it is presented as if there's a 33% chance when it is in fact closer to 0%. Pretty BS system if you ask me, and one can wonder how legal it is. In China there's soon to be laws where companies are forced to show the % on loot boxes. This stuff is very similar to loot boxes...

all drop no matter what it is, is scale on lot different factor, one has greatest change get best item from every draw and event is one that has not spend any real money and play the game least amount of time... is just some fact it been * to show some player has 0 % change get best item because they never log off and spend lot real money

well yeah the prob is the less you play and less you spend the higher are your chances to get prizes to bait those who spend a lot on 0% win rate for them