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On 2018-03-06 00:00:47Show this Author Only
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  • Nirai On 2018-03-04 13:49:33
  • CN at 3.29 if i'm not mistaken. Mostly cause there isn't any "version". They just counting updates (last one was 103). All those 2.0, 3.0 e.t.c. was created specifically for EU and do not used on CN.

ok what you call 3.29 is what everybody here calls 5.0, what we call here 4.0 is what you call there 3.08

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On 2018-03-06 00:01:53Show this Author Only
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  • Daiske On 2018-03-05 14:27:18
  • Hey there.

    I have seen you post similar comment in another thread and I actually forgot to reply. From where are you getting such numbers? There are only 2 missing features from version 3.0. They were pushed back due to bugs and needed some time in order to fix them and implement them to the game. I've explained it in the past in similar thread if I remember correctly. As for rest of 4.0. Please do not forget we are still on version 4.0. New features or updates are never added right away when game is upgraded to next version.


    Some players are using China as example. It took China around 2 years if I am not mistaken in order to start updating the game (If you translate it to our version it was almost 2 year break, maybe less between version updates). They indeed are getting some new in game features but CN servers were in the same phase as we are. Just because the features are already in the game and they exist, it does not mean we can added them like that. Plus, please keep in mind that china is not working on the same system like we do. They do not have versions or patches. They are receiving updates when updates are ready and developers decide to add this or that to the game.


    We are aware that community is asking for more updates and more content. We are talking about it on weekly basis but we also have to follow our set schedules.

Kage TI is bugged? I hardly doubt.

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On 2018-03-06 01:17:02Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2018-03-06 00:00:47
  • ok what you call 3.29 is what everybody here calls 5.0, what we call here 4.0 is what you call there 3.08

Well, gap between us and Cn is roughly 1 year. Which is important, cause it was much more then a year, when EU was released.

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  • Garv On 2018-03-06 00:00:47
  • ok what you call 3.29 is what everybody here calls 5.0, what we call here 4.0 is what you call there 3.08

It's just - i can't understand how you decide, what is missing and what does not. On Cn is almost every week is something new (1 or two 2 things, maybe some bug improvments). So there is no such thing as BIG update. They add things step by step.

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On 2018-03-06 06:34:39Show this Author Only
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Alright, the point was made and received.

The thread will now be closed.


Thank you for your inputs!

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On 2018-03-06 17:59:00Show this Author Only
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Actually, I would like the creator of this thread to reply to my comment. I think if we will see valid and normal comments/discussion in this thread, it can stay open. At least for few more days.


By the way, small spoiler for you. We plan on adding at least one new in game feature this month. I am not going to spoil what it is, it's a surprise. As I said, we're aware that you guys would like to see more updates and we are currently in the middle of discussion of what can be done about that.




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On 2018-03-07 21:53:21Show this Author Only
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I mean .. I totally forgot I made this thread LOL :D sorry. First off I am glad this topic is not closed and instead we can see discussion here. Usually I see all my threads insta closed. That's definitely + as I see it. Second .. I know there is no such thing as 3.0 or 4.0 on CN but if you take a look at what those updates in EU offered you know what time it was more or less on CN so you know what was available and what was not at the time. Thus you can approximately see how much we are missing. Ofc 70% is incredible e*ageration. Pretty standard move to get attention. Yet we miss a lot. I mean .. new group summons were advertised twice. Both with 3.0 and with 4.0 as MAIN update. Like ... it was on main page, all over it. Do you see any? I do not. Even if just this one thing was missing it is already bad that it is not fixed after almost a year now after getting 3.0 I mean ... bugs/glitches etc are normal for any game. But they need to be fixed within days, not months or years, not with 1 big patch that will bring fix to that 1 thing and bring another 10 bugs. Imho Oasis is making tons of money from all the games it publishes in EU. Should be possible to hire a developer team that would fix bugs and content on daily basis like they have it in CN. Ofc I do not want all CN has to offer right now, defo not ninjas. Hard to catch up with the meta. Not to mention it would most likely not be possible as the player base is lower and even the amount people can spend cannot be compared to some chinese that can do 50k dollar recharge for 5* Hashirama. But gameplay-wise we need to move forward much faster than 1 patch every few months and nothing inbetween.

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On 2018-03-07 23:39:32Show this Author Only
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  • John Dope On 2018-03-07 21:53:21
  • I mean .. I totally forgot I made this thread LOL :D sorry. First off I am glad this topic is not closed and instead we can see discussion here. Usually I see all my threads insta closed. That's definitely + as I see it. Second .. I know there is no such thing as 3.0 or 4.0 on CN but if you take a look at what those updates in EU offered you know what time it was more or less on CN so you know what was available and what was not at the time. Thus you can approximately see how much we are missing. Ofc 70% is incredible e*ageration. Pretty standard move to get attention. Yet we miss a lot. I mean .. new group summons were advertised twice. Both with 3.0 and with 4.0 as MAIN update. Like ... it was on main page, all over it. Do you see any? I do not. Even if just this one thing was missing it is already bad that it is not fixed after almost a year now after getting 3.0 I mean ... bugs/glitches etc are normal for any game. But they need to be fixed within days, not months or years, not with 1 big patch that will bring fix to that 1 thing and bring another 10 bugs. Imho Oasis is making tons of money from all the games it publishes in EU. Should be possible to hire a developer team that would fix bugs and content on daily basis like they have it in CN. Ofc I do not want all CN has to offer right now, defo not ninjas. Hard to catch up with the meta. Not to mention it would most likely not be possible as the player base is lower and even the amount people can spend cannot be compared to some chinese that can do 50k dollar recharge for 5* Hashirama. But gameplay-wise we need to move forward much faster than 1 patch every few months and nothing inbetween.

No problem, I am happy you remembered and decided to check it in the end.


I am the one who said new Group Summon will come during current version of the game. The reason is because we were not able to release it according to our previous plan and change log for version 3.0. There was serious problem with this feature and same can be said about Red Chakra Shop. Indeed, it does not take several months to fix such problem, what takes time is to push/bring it back to the update plan and make sure it won't cause any trouble or it won't create chaos in our current update plan. There is a lot of factors our team needs to take into consideration. It may look simpler than it actually is. We can't just be like "Oh well, we did not put this update to the game like we planned 3 months ago so we are going to release it next week." No, no. We understand a lot of players would like it to see it this way but that would mean we have to push back all planned updates for the future. We need to find a solution that will be profitable for both sides, that means us (it won't create chaos) and for you, our players (you will receive new updates and features).


Indeed, it's been almost one month and 1 week/2 weeks (?) since last update aka new in-game feature. Next new in-game feature will be added this month. We are also still discussing how can we push some updates to the game a bit sooner than planned and what we have to do in order to do so. Please understand that this decision is something that needs to be approved and done by whole team and not just one individual.


I hope this clears the confusion about the lack of updates.




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On 2018-03-08 01:40:29Show this Author Only
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  • Daiske On 2018-03-07 23:39:32
  • No problem, I am happy you remembered and decided to check it in the end.


    I am the one who said new Group Summon will come during current version of the game. The reason is because we were not able to release it according to our previous plan and change log for version 3.0. There was serious problem with this feature and same can be said about Red Chakra Shop. Indeed, it does not take several months to fix such problem, what takes time is to push/bring it back to the update plan and make sure it won't cause any trouble or it won't create chaos in our current update plan. There is a lot of factors our team needs to take into consideration. It may look simpler than it actually is. We can't just be like "Oh well, we did not put this update to the game like we planned 3 months ago so we are going to release it next week." No, no. We understand a lot of players would like it to see it this way but that would mean we have to push back all planned updates for the future. We need to find a solution that will be profitable for both sides, that means us (it won't create chaos) and for you, our players (you will receive new updates and features).


    Indeed, it's been almost one month and 1 week/2 weeks (?) since last update aka new in-game feature. Next new in-game feature will be added this month. We are also still discussing how can we push some updates to the game a bit sooner than planned and what we have to do in order to do so. Please understand that this decision is something that needs to be approved and done by whole team and not just one individual.


    I hope this clears the confusion about the lack of updates.

I also think it would be fair to update the things from 3.0 separately, what i mean by this? you mentioned theres going to be a new feature this month, i think it would be fair if is a new feature and not just the things missing from 3.0, the missing content from back then should be released as soon as they could be delivered as a way to say sorry and ease the usual topic about "we are missing this and this when are we going to get it", thus avoiding a "so the new feature were just the missing stuff from 3.0? lame" know what i mean?
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  • Daiske On 2018-03-05 14:27:18
  • Hey there.

    I have seen you post similar comment in another thread and I actually forgot to reply. From where are you getting such numbers? There are only 2 missing features from version 3.0. They were pushed back due to bugs and needed some time in order to fix them and implement them to the game. I've explained it in the past in similar thread if I remember correctly. As for rest of 4.0. Please do not forget we are still on version 4.0. New features or updates are never added right away when game is upgraded to next version.


    Some players are using China as example. It took China around 2 years if I am not mistaken in order to start updating the game (If you translate it to our version it was almost 2 year break, maybe less between version updates). They indeed are getting some new in game features but CN servers were in the same phase as we are. Just because the features are already in the game and they exist, it does not mean we can added them like that. Plus, please keep in mind that china is not working on the same system like we do. They do not have versions or patches. They are receiving updates when updates are ready and developers decide to add this or that to the game.


    We are aware that community is asking for more updates and more content. We are talking about it on weekly basis but we also have to follow our set schedules.

Maybe China did it right. Going on your post in news, if China doesn't have versions then they wouldn't have to change bugged 3.0 content into bugged 4.0 content when 4.0 came out. It's not that we want the game features rushed, we just want the features that would come with each version. I would love to still be in 3.0 right now if it meant we would have those 2 features. In my opinion the actual gameplay worked a lot better in 2.0 and then 3.0 came out and I started to notice my game slowing up, system erroring a bit. 4.0 really put the exclamation on the system errors/server lag.

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On 2018-03-08 05:40:41Show this Author Only
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I hope the new feature is not tactic pages mood. I think that would actually made me quit :D it is so broken even CN decided to remove it from the game now.

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On 2018-03-08 07:58:15Show this Author Only
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dai admited we are missed 2 things from 3.0 and we are in 4.0

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On 2018-03-08 09:07:43Show this Author Only
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  • Nirai On 2018-03-06 01:21:08
  • It's just - i can't understand how you decide, what is missing and what does not. On Cn is almost every week is something new (1 or two 2 things, maybe some bug improvments). So there is no such thing as BIG update. They add things step by step.

They are judging based upon Oasis teaser releases. They had a 3.0 release page, just like the 4.0 release page and it had items on it that have not been released yet.

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  • John Dope On 2018-03-08 05:40:41
  • I hope the new feature is not tactic pages mood. I think that would actually made me quit :D it is so broken even CN decided to remove it from the game now.

Well he said he didn't want to spoil the surprise which implies we will be happy about it. So judging from the uproar there was from the % Tactics before I'm guessing that's not it, haha.

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On 2018-03-08 17:49:23Show this Author Only
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Current features we are missing that were implemented before what we call 4.0 in china?


1) 2nd group summon

2) kage ti

3) full update of survival and arena shop (With sage naruto, danzo, hanzo in arena shop and all the gnw konohas in survival shop)

4) ninja exams 181-220.


Missing updates from 4.0 for what we just see in game.


5) ninja exams 221-280

6) oil cultivation

7) 52100-55000 power steps in ultimate training

8) east konoha shop




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On 2018-03-08 18:07:33Show this Author Only
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  • Mass On 2018-03-08 01:40:29
  • I also think it would be fair to update the things from 3.0 separately, what i mean by this? you mentioned theres going to be a new feature this month, i think it would be fair if is a new feature and not just the things missing from 3.0, the missing content from back then should be released as soon as they could be delivered as a way to say sorry and ease the usual topic about "we are missing this and this when are we going to get it", thus avoiding a "so the new feature were just the missing stuff from 3.0? lame" know what i mean?

I understand your point. However, it is not possible. They were removed from previous update plan schedule and in order to add them to the game, they need to be added to the current update schedule. They can't have their own schedule. And you might ask "Well, why aren't they at the start of the new schedule?". As I mentioned in my previous comment, we need to make sure that updates and our schedule follows specific rules and also make sure that updates won't cause any problems or chaos. There is a lot of factors that we need to take into consideration and most of them are considered confidential so we can't really share them with you.


What we are asking from you is to be patient for a bit longer. We are working on a plan that will allow us to update the game more frequently but it will still follow all of our rules and factors.

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On 2018-03-08 19:47:43Show this Author Only
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  • Daiske On 2018-03-08 18:07:33
  • I understand your point. However, it is not possible. They were removed from previous update plan schedule and in order to add them to the game, they need to be added to the current update schedule. They can't have their own schedule. And you might ask "Well, why aren't they at the start of the new schedule?". As I mentioned in my previous comment, we need to make sure that updates and our schedule follows specific rules and also make sure that updates won't cause any problems or chaos. There is a lot of factors that we need to take into consideration and most of them are considered confidential so we can't really share them with you.


    What we are asking from you is to be patient for a bit longer. We are working on a plan that will allow us to update the game more frequently but it will still follow all of our rules and factors.

Not to be annoying or repetitive, but you still have to tell us what is the official reason why the management went back to their word about bringing back mood scrolls in group wheel.

Beware i am not asking to bring them back just to explain us why you all chose to not bring them back.




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On 2018-03-09 09:00:59Show this Author Only
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  • Nirai On 2018-03-04 13:49:33
  • CN at 3.29 if i'm not mistaken. Mostly cause there isn't any "version". They just counting updates (last one was 103). All those 2.0, 3.0 e.t.c. was created specifically for EU and do not used on CN.

CN is still more advanced. You'd know it if you actually played on it. I'd post a screenshot of the different interfaces, but I won't risk a ban. Just know that the "power tools" you're either getting in a small quantity, or have to pay for, are available for free on a daily basis over there.

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  • A joke On 2018-03-09 09:00:59
  • CN is still more advanced. You'd know it if you actually played on it. I'd post a screenshot of the different interfaces, but I won't risk a ban. Just know that the "power tools" you're either getting in a small quantity, or have to pay for, are available for free on a daily basis over there.

I play on CN since Alpha. So i know exactly what it's like to play there)

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On 2018-03-09 13:22:58Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-03-08 17:49:23
  • Current features we are missing that were implemented before what we call 4.0 in china?


    1) 2nd group summon

    2) kage ti

    3) full update of survival and arena shop (With sage naruto, danzo, hanzo in arena shop and all the gnw konohas in survival shop)

    4) ninja exams 181-220.


    Missing updates from 4.0 for what we just see in game.


    5) ninja exams 221-280

    6) oil cultivation

    7) 52100-55000 power steps in ultimate training

    8) east konoha shop

Of all things you mentioned Kage TI is last one which was added. It's defenetly NOT 3.0 feature.

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