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On 2018-01-30 03:59:49Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Okay, so one of the things that really annoy me about this game is how players complain about "cancer" teams such as 1 tank + 3 healers or what ever. IMO I would rather put up with that than being beat by someone 10 levels lower than me with 10k power less than me who uses the broken line up of Shisui, Iruka and Masked Man/Minato. Why bother fighting when they literally dodge every single attack you throw?! This game is supposed to be strictly about power with a little strategy in case of even power, not throwing ninjas into the game that dodge everything + buffs that can beat players 10k power ahead of them! It's no wonder a lot of players use "cancer" teams, you have to tank all the * attacks that line up throws at you and hope you survive.

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On 2018-01-30 04:14:26Show this Author Only
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they complain about cancer teams with azure fang because they are the only teams that are able to beat them or that make their work harder by bringing the battle to round 10.

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On 2018-01-30 04:24:42Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2018-01-30 04:14:26
  • they complain about cancer teams with azure fang because they are the only teams that are able to beat them or that make their work harder by bringing the battle to round 10.

Exactly, the fact that it is possibly the only team that can beat them (unless they are OP as hell) is completely wrong, there is no balance here. It should be a game were strategy wins a fight, being able to win using your intellect and not relying on OP ninjas for easy wins.

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On 2018-01-30 05:29:55Show this Author Only
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People complain about cancer teams because Azure Fang is one of the best support/healers in the game and she c*so give your whole team poison tai. I'd complain more about cancer teams than Shisui/MM/Minato teams because those players had to spend/rng to get all of them where Sailor Sakura has been in a ton of events for cheap where most f2ps have been able to piece her together. Then just add two 210-240 seal pull ninja in front of them and you have a meta team.

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On 2018-01-30 05:38:34Show this Author Only
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because cancer teams are extremely annoying and it takes no skill you just click auto and its a win unless you have less initiative and sometimes you still win with less

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On 2018-01-30 05:53:31Show this Author Only
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  • dablackguy On 2018-01-30 05:38:34
  • because cancer teams are extremely annoying and it takes no skill you just click auto and its a win unless you have less initiative and sometimes you still win with less

Not exactly, the team is very easy to beat if you control sailor Sakura and Water Main, once those two are out of the picture, it's a guaranteed win, where as with Shisui, Minato/Masked Man and Iruka, you have to wait until they use their mysteries before you can attack and most of the time you can because of the cc and ignition and everything else. It's a team were LOWER initiative wins.

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On 2018-01-30 06:11:01Show this Author Only
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So many threads like this blah blah blah I got beat by someone using a cancer team. What do you expect some of the f2p players it's there only chance of winning against spenders. Not everyone can dump money into a game so they have to come up with every strategy the can just to survive. I know cancer teams * but every ninja has a counter. Blitz teams can wreck cancer teams, control teams can beat them. If you are having trouble with them save up some cps and get better ninja.

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On 2018-01-30 06:14:47Show this Author Only
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  • TheWakkaSage On 2018-01-30 06:11:01
  • So many threads like this blah blah blah I got beat by someone using a cancer team. What do you expect some of the f2p players it's there only chance of winning against spenders. Not everyone can dump money into a game so they have to come up with every strategy the can just to survive. I know cancer teams * but every ninja has a counter. Blitz teams can wreck cancer teams, control teams can beat them. If you are having trouble with them save up some cps and get better ninja.

I tried but there's something people keep mentioning and I have no idea what it is, I think they call it "luck", don't suppose you've heard of it or no were I can get some? xD

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On 2018-01-30 07:05:53Show this Author Only
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I find it kinda funny how you get annoyed by "players complain about "cancer" teams such as 1 tank + 3 healers or what ever", yet in next sentence "broken line up of Shisui, Iruka and Masked Man/Minato. Why bother fighting when they literally dodge every single attack you throw?!" Same thing, no offence :D


There's no team without weakness. Every lineup has it's strong and worse matchups. Full buffed team? Han decreases whole team's damage by removing buffs. Dodge team? Multiple aoe dmg. Healer teams? aoe attacks/attacks that hit priority target + r1/r2 targetted damage. Optionally heavy control.

Obviously, people rant about healing teams, because they arent all that interactive and prey on enemy making mistakes rather than outplaying by themself.

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On 2018-01-30 07:32:41Show this Author Only
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lol All the heavy spenders should be beatable with f2p ninja? Why would people ever spend on premium ninjas or power? Heavy spenders could just do 5 star cancer teams, end result would be the same as running susano itachi teams.

Currently you need at least 20k ingot ninja to beat sailor and water teams asking for more buffs for water main is just....Water meta is under powered? See this and decide for yourself (144 k vs 83k). 12.02 where fun starts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keWPGdw2Gao

Bonus videos :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AB3UQpRayw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsoPzmCsdWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJf15OXtjS0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uYhOvSO0D0

PS:Before the introduction of shisui, han roshi cancer team coud win against 20-30k higher power player running susano itachi ,mm , and FM.




This post was last edited by JustSaying on 2018-01-30 07:47:04.
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On 2018-01-30 08:23:30Show this Author Only
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Remember back when the Mei-Mabui-Tenten team was a thing? I do, it was pretty much the same thing as Roshi-Water-Sailor-...Someone.


I never did get Mei, but I can run the Roshi team, but Blitz teams demolish my team easily, so...yeah...


"Every Jutsu has a Weakness"-Itachi Uchiha

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On 2018-01-30 11:51:39Show this Author Only
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In the end, it all comes down to the player and if they are able to learn from adversity rather than complain about every difficulty they face playing this game. I've faced the complete opposite of what you are saying where players that rely on these type of lineups and complain when they lose.

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On 2018-01-30 16:56:38Show this Author Only
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Han roshi sailor has never been able to beat itachi susanoo masked man sb teams.


About what the OP said: currently triple healer teams *s a lot against whoever runs comparable power blitz teams that are able to oneshot azure fang or to apply ignition multiple times (edo deidara... fuguki blitz... shisui metas...). Honestly speaking in my swb bracket i don't see a single azure fang that runs triple healer in swb/matsuri and i am myself thinking to remove han/roshi/sailor also as an expendable team in matsuri currently.

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On 2018-01-30 20:48:30Show this Author Only
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  • XzileTigerZ On 2018-01-30 04:24:42
  • Exactly, the fact that it is possibly the only team that can beat them (unless they are OP as hell) is completely wrong, there is no balance here. It should be a game were strategy wins a fight, being able to win using your intellect and not relying on OP ninjas for easy wins.

If u want that, * to arena. Thats the most balanced form of pvp afterall.

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On 2018-01-31 07:51:19Show this Author Only
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  • TheWakkaSage On 2018-01-30 06:11:01
  • So many threads like this blah blah blah I got beat by someone using a cancer team. What do you expect some of the f2p players it's there only chance of winning against spenders. Not everyone can dump money into a game so they have to come up with every strategy the can just to survive. I know cancer teams * but every ninja has a counter. Blitz teams can wreck cancer teams, control teams can beat them. If you are having trouble with them save up some cps and get better ninja.

blitz can wreck water teams with han?

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On 2018-01-31 12:34:51Show this Author Only
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  • PawnL On 2018-01-31 07:51:19
  • blitz can wreck water teams with han?

That's what I was thinking after reading a few comments saying, "Blitz counters cancer." Han ruins blitz lol.

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On 2018-01-31 13:53:30Show this Author Only
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There is not enough attack in this game to blitz han roshi teams. Han remove buffs + Tactics gives 2 times hp than attack. Very few cloths + attack mags are expensive;wish they put shop discount for at least medal users.




This post was last edited by JustSaying on 2018-01-31 13:58:24.
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On 2018-01-31 13:56:07Show this Author Only
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  • Zelgadis~ On 2018-01-30 16:56:38
  • Han roshi sailor has never been able to beat itachi susanoo masked man sb teams.


    About what the OP said: currently triple healer teams *s a lot against whoever runs comparable power blitz teams that are able to oneshot azure fang or to apply ignition multiple times (edo deidara... fuguki blitz... shisui metas...). Honestly speaking in my swb bracket i don't see a single azure fang that runs triple healer in swb/matsuri and i am myself thinking to remove han/roshi/sailor also as an expendable team in matsuri currently.

I ran Susanoo itachi, mm, sb and onoki. Couldn't beat a han roshi cancer team with 80k when I am 100k. My mags,refines,charms and tactics are way better. Not enough attack in this game to take on 25k roshi and han+ their self healing.Not to mention sailor sakura's self buffs,poison and healing kit.




This post was last edited by JustSaying on 2018-01-31 14:55:50.
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On 2018-01-31 16:26:59Show this Author Only
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  • JustSaying On 2018-01-31 13:56:07
  • I ran Susanoo itachi, mm, sb and onoki. Couldn't beat a han roshi cancer team with 80k when I am 100k. My mags,refines,charms and tactics are way better. Not enough attack in this game to take on 25k roshi and han+ their self healing.Not to mention sailor sakura's self buffs,poison and healing kit.

Then go run a Fuguki/Roshi/Kurenai team and see those Han/Roshi/Sailor teams melt. Just as sailor finishes standard attack and gets ignited, she's already done for, completely decimated. Of course you'd have to be smart to wait till AF finishes her standard healing before blitzing Sakura out (coz 99% of the time, AF will heal either Roshi or Han). Not a single lineup can counter everything, and that allows us to think of various lineups to fit into certain situations.

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On 2018-01-31 16:29:31Show this Author Only
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  • PawnL On 2018-01-31 07:51:19
  • blitz can wreck water teams with han?

There's a lot of types of "blitz" teams. Did you know the Fuguki/Roshi blitz cn almost kill sailor sakura in round 1? and By round 2, she just explodes as you drop your Roshi bomb to the enemy Azure Fang and gets CC'ed by your Kurenai. That's another form of "blitz" teams where you punish anyone that attacks Fuguki.

Not to mention this blitz team counters Han teams, and has no need for temporary buffs and you just sit there and watch Roshi proc his chase each round.




This post was last edited by Azrielle on 2018-01-31 16:30:58.
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