Normal forges or advanced forges?

guy above this post has done 20 advanced + his frees X_x

if there's a min forge cap on a S tool, I can see p2ps paying to get "ahead" on the new system.

it's not different than people who spent masses on the charm system when they were 125 cps a pop & with no charm rebate.

hopefully someone within the community will go nuts on the adv reforges and let us know that "magic #"

Sure is, many people will refrain from leveling up their sub-S rank tools b/c you only get back a % of ores used on leveling the tools.

Doesn't make sense to deplete your resources everyday keeping all those B/A rank tools leveled up when a S rank may come along any time and you'll be "behind" even after recycling those B/A rank tools b/c the other joe who kept most of their resources will be way ahead then.

Max tool level is 75 on each tool. My A-Rank tool on my slot 1s close to L60 now, it starts to take a lot to level it up and the recycled amount isn't worth dumping so many ores on an A rank. I guess my opinions more geared towards the most serious player, but from personal server experience,the competitive players have all paid into the advance forge feature hoping to get that 1st S tool as early as possible.

3 ropes and a gourd on your main is the best setup. Life and res from the ropes provide a little more survivability. Ideally you want to eventually obtain 3 golden S ropes paired with a S rank gourd for the main and max level them. Also ninjutsu and attack aren't necessarily bad, but you cant use those traits efficiently if you cant survive and take an attack.

every player has their own way of using resources, your advice may not be the most efficient method nor is mine

Because the main power of the Treasure tools are not the base stats but the secondary stats you get, As you can see the base stats only go as 700-300, while the secondary can go as high as 4k at max lvl. So A heavy spender would have a big advantage if he has a lot of S rank as they have 3 Slot of secondary stats instead of 2

I don't want to repeatedly pick on you but the DE or German version is irrelevant. You have much more than a 3 - 4 week head start over us in NA

Be honest, we c*l see you're on your 3rd S tool already with 4k+ iron ores sitting in your invent. I don't want to dig up when Germany got the tools update and quote you back on when exactly you did get your rope. Don't tell us it was 3-4 weeks ago when you have 3 S ropes sitting in your invent.

Also often seeing your forums posts and advice given, you often give advice based on how "you" would do it. Everyone's different. There are people who spend 100x you, so can you tell them they should tone down their spending to your level? This threads just a general drop rate survey, so I ask you don't come on here to preach your ideologies. Everyone has their own way of playing and we all know the "cost". Keep it to the tallies, and stop telling people you're 3 to 4 weeks into your S rope when it's clearly not the case.