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- JustSaying On 2018-01-18 21:27:47
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Without pay to win , there won't be f2p. Someone has to pay for servers and staff...not to mention royalties they have to pay for Naruto creator. Would be nice they add those 100 coupons thing they have in China. Small spenders could benefit. Agree with everything except points 1 and 4. They have been giving away lot of ninja frags for free ( minato jonin and masked man) and spenders had to spend 20k to get each ninja. So they are not biased.
You really wanna go back to the P2W vs F2P debate?
I don't think that's a good idea mate. If you really want to try and convince me that F2Ps' existence in the game is dependent on P2Ws, do it in a Private Message and not here. I don't want to clog up the forums with more of that.
Anyways, we're digressing. I don't have much to say here except on the powercreep. I don't mind powercreep as long as it doesn't COMPLETELY INVALIDATE any specific character who I want to play. If I wanna invest in Sakon and Ukon, it shouldn't be a total waste and they shouldn't be completely outclassed by some other Edo Tensei guy who got like 5 pages worth of action.
Powercreep is kinda necessary to keep the game interesting, however. Sure, creativity is cool. But creativity with a drop of powercreep can be interesting – just take a look at the "Fanmade future ninja talentsets" thread in the Fanfiction section. Some of the super powercreepy fanmade characters there are actually quite creative.
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- smaddeus On 2018-01-21 01:47:23
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You are special kind of *, aren't you? People are dumb and this game is a gambling game, people WILL spend money because dumb sheep are all around in this game, and it works for the company, they don't care otherwise, they push to * that money out of you, it's called marketing strategy, which you can't see obviously what is actually going on here. They on purpose are making pay to win and people fall for it more and more. How they do it? They simply create GL's, those are players that are in-game under NDA, they can't tell anyone openly that he is the GL in that server, he is like a secret spy for OG so to say, they have to report stuff, but that's just a curtain to the actual reason why GL exist, they are given huge boosts in everything, making them really strong, either they are being paid or given tons of coupons and ingots, and their task is to participate in events, and that GL without doubt will have the latest premium ninja's, he will gain them from events so that others can see how strong he becomes, he creates this sense in others that you are weak without investing, they make it really hard for a free to play player by making less free events and more competing pay to win events where each whale spends tons of money to overcome the other, and those are no-life players that have nowhere to put their money but in the game, and on that the company is earning.
People are just *, and marketing team is exploiting and abusing this to gain easy profit. Personally pay to win strategy is abusive and game breaking. You are only a winner, me
taphorically, if you stay free to play player. Of course, you can still beat a lot of players by being free to play, but they make it hard for you, you need to be smart about how you use your resources, you need to be patient and so on. But imo, pay to win at this kind of extreme level is bull* and I am not supporting it, I haven't invested a cent.
P.S. They are pretty smart about making players stay with these daily events that if you skip, can actually ruin your character quite a bit, so it's hard to stay free to play. Basically pay to win doesn't work, but they pu* to work by creating these daily events and a reason to stay, otherwise, if you quit for whatever the reason and you will want to come back later, you are *ed, and better stay out of this game.And to reply on the original comment, whoever runs this game in marketing is a real d1ck and piece of sh1t, so they wont change anything you implied, but worth to create the awareness.
Okay, calling him names is not gonna make your argument any more convincing.
From my perspective, the general problem with P2W games is that they lack permanence. What happens when a whale is forced to quit the game from real-life things? Back in the day when the game was young, I saw a handful of my server's whales quit because of real life issues; things like divorces, new jobs, et cetera.
So who's going to replace them? The F2Ps all the way down at the bottom of the barrel? Do they seriously believe that, with the huge money gap that's already between them and the P2Ws, that it'll be worth spending to try and catch up? Even when the remaining P2Ws are still spending and widening that gap?
The reason people pay is either to dominate others or to catch up to others. Once people realize that neither of these things are permanent, that this will get nowhere they lose faith and stop spending. Once the pay-to-free gap is so large that none of the F2Ps even stand a chance, even if they dump their entire life savings into the game, that's the point where the game starts to fail.
...Well, that's the idea at least. Yes, you are correct in that there will always be that group of people who pays no matter what, maybe they're spontaneous or lack self control or something like that. The devs might murk up or hide the fact that no amount of catchup will make up for the gap, and as a result people will still pay. I dunno really.
...You know, I kinda lost track of the point I was trying to make with this. Oh well.
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