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1＃ Go ToHello, I'm a 100% f2p, and i like the crimson fist earth class,I want some experienced players to give their opinion for which of the 2 ninjas to go for (Roshi or Ay 3rd), please don't give me comments like you are earth go with roshi... I want some real answers with reasons behind them.
I know for a fact that roshi's immunity to debuffs and his AOE mystery/chase are what makes him good, in the other hand Ay 3rd have super armor and single (or not depends on enemy lineup) target mystery/chase, both ninja get scaling stats as the fight go on, what i want to know is who of the 2 can keep up with the future treasure ninjas and who would fail miserably due to some kind of anti team in future me
ta, also which of the two is more "flexible" and can accept more lineup choices. and who is like "Good ONLY if you use this ninja or that one" Thanks in advance, really appreciate any help.
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So in other words, you either go "full aoe" and forget about him getting killed with blitz teams in top of it requiring some p2w ninjas/summons, or play more "scaling tortoise" style and forget about his 30 chase, which comes out to not exploiting him fully in both cases...
In the other hand, I can understand why most recommendations goes towards Roshi, meanly because we still don't have Ay 3rd treasure for more people to give a more "ba
sed on experience" opinion, btw @Shryke how comes ay with 2781 life growth still have nearly same hp as roshi with only 1898 life growth (both at ~12k HP) i can't seem to understand how those "stats" growth works, only explanation i can think of is HP mood for roshi and something else for ay. -
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- veelocity On 2017-10-20 23:37:46
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Honestly, its about your playstyle preference. Also take into account where your Bp is at. Roshi is a monster if you help him survive. In order to do this though, you would have to be willing to 1 Most likely play Earth as a f2p(most people hate this main) and 2 have enough resources to put into him and have an extremely good set of gear. At around 50k or lower roshi will provide no benefit to you simply because he wont survive. I think 60k is where he's decent but still lacks survivability. You would also need a way to get his chase off to maximize his damage. He's just very and I mean VERY susceptible to burst damage. I'm at roughly 95k and my roshi will still die to lightning blitz against people 10k lower round 1. Usually happens if I'm not playing earth main though.
Ay on the 3rd on the other hand will most likely help you excel more pvp wise. Super armor, and depending on team composition can maximize his capabilities round 2. Like others have stated, he can one shot people or get close to it if you are needing a burst ninja. Some are arguing that you have to play lightning main but he works with earth much better in my opinion. Wind main works well with him as well but only after we get 4.0 which is probably when we'll be getting the treasure so it works out. Only downside to him is that he can be cc'd and debuffed due to lack of immunity. Providing feedback on him is a little difficult though simply because a lot of us don't have him yet. So our opinions stem from matches we've seen or gameplay of him on YouTube.
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ta's are concerned, Roshi is used more often without a doubt. Mostly see him paired with Kurama li nk on the CN side. Also we get more ninjas that are able to trigger Roshi's chase which becomes deadly round after round. The 3rd raikage is more difficult to place me ta wise in CN simply because me ta is always changing; as it should. I think you will still get a good use from the 3rd Rakage for a long time, I don't think I would consider him "end game though" although he's very close.
The fact that ay 3rd shine on "second round" in addition to the fact that his damage is from his "mystery" and the fact that he will be your "tank" as well in "position 1" means that no matter how they CC him on that first turn as long as you have a debuff cleaner ninja on your 3rd/4th position to clean him up and make him turn 2 ready there should be no worries about CC (supposed you have higher initiative on 1st move of course)
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- Attac an Respec On 2017-10-21 11:06:57
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about that isn't ay 3rd also an edo-tensie ninja? if so then Nagato can remove ALL of his debuffs on each round (that's basically a free immunity skill for 3rd)
Ay 3rd is an "edo tensei", but again as a f2p i don't think i can afford Nagato unless i'm missing something, i guess gakido or jigokudo would be more attainable.
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