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I was doing Survival today. During the 1st turn, I summoned opponent's Lightning main to my side and got his lightning buffs, which lasts for 5 rounds (there was an animation of arrows going up). In the 3rd turn, I made a mistake and accidentally summoned Lightning again, and to my surprise, that same animation happened. I wasnt able to examine the damage because the remaining ninjas from the other camp were so close to death that the repulse damage took them all out and it was my last checking point.

So I want to ask: does what happened above means that Lightning's buff from the 2nd clone stacks even when the 1st's buff hasnt worn off yet.? Because as i remember, the same buffs dont stack. Or does that mean I got an extention on how long that lightning buff lasts?.

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On 2017-08-26 20:02:23Show this Author Only
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Hi!! The same buff unfortunately does not stack in that situation. It just really extended the period of time the buff is active. The reasoning is that the passive is only active when the ninja is on the field. If the first lightning main clone with passive was replaced by the second lightning main clone (made by Yagura), then the first lightning main's passive ceases to exist.


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On 2017-08-26 22:06:30Show this Author Only
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  • Jiburiru On 2017-08-26 20:02:23
  • Hi!! The same buff unfortunately does not stack in that situation. It just really extended the period of time the buff is active. The reasoning is that the passive is only active when the ninja is on the field. If the first lightning main clone with passive was replaced by the second lightning main clone (made by Yagura), then the first lightning main's passive ceases to exist.


    ~Jib

I was under the impression that timed buffs stayed active their whole duration, regardless if the ninja providing it is on the field, for example, if someone blitzes your Iruka round 1, the rest of you team will keep their shields.

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On 2017-08-26 22:14:15Show this Author Only
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  • crazydodapie On 2017-08-26 22:06:30
  • I was under the impression that timed buffs stayed active their whole duration, regardless if the ninja providing it is on the field, for example, if someone blitzes your Iruka round 1, the rest of you team will keep their shields.

Shields stay but buffs like increase attack/nin do not.

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On 2017-08-26 22:22:56Show this Author Only
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No, no, the buffs stay for the whole duration.

If in round1 you copy an MB with root of warrior and swordbearer buff you get for two rounds root of warrior and for 5 rounds swordbearer buff. If the clone or yagura die the buff stay for the whole duration unless they are dispelled. rFor example, with azure fang, in arena, i use to copy a ton of times mbs with root of warrior and even if the clone or yagura die in the 1st round my azure fang continue to be immune to all debuffs also in the following round.

If in round 4 you copy again the same mb you simply get the buffs refreshed, if you, instead, lets say, copy a mifune you still have the swordbearer buff from mb for round 4 and 5 and you get ALSO mifune buff for round 4-8.

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  • crazydodapie On 2017-08-26 22:06:30
  • I was under the impression that timed buffs stayed active their whole duration, regardless if the ninja providing it is on the field, for example, if someone blitzes your Iruka round 1, the rest of you team will keep their shields.

Your impression is right, if a buff is casted for x round it stays active wholly for their duration, regardless the fact the ninja providing it died and only a dispelling effect, like han or cee or temari gnw mystery can remove them before their expiring time. What cease to work the moment the ninja providing it dies are auras and barriers. Things like healing tips or wb asuma passive or anbu special tactics leaching effect, to be clearer.





This post was last edited by Zelgadis~ on 2017-08-27 05:38:05.
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  • Jiburiru On 2017-08-26 20:02:23
  • Hi!! The same buff unfortunately does not stack in that situation. It just really extended the period of time the buff is active. The reasoning is that the passive is only active when the ninja is on the field. If the first lightning main clone with passive was replaced by the second lightning main clone (made by Yagura), then the first lightning main's passive ceases to exist.


    ~Jib

I think you are mistaking Lightning's aura buff with his temporary buff, Jib. Lightning's elemental buff is a temporary buff and in theory, it should last even if the clone is killed. But then again, same buffs dont stack. So it is kinda confusing

I tried again today, and it seemed that my damage does increase after resummoning a Lightning clone. This one has Warrior's intent buff however. Worked on Iruka and Hashirama' clones as well. But just to be sure, i'll do some more tests.

Thank you all. this deos open up some interesting gameplay for me.


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On 2017-08-28 14:07:44Show this Author Only
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  • Jiburiru On 2017-08-26 20:02:23
  • Hi!! The same buff unfortunately does not stack in that situation. It just really extended the period of time the buff is active. The reasoning is that the passive is only active when the ninja is on the field. If the first lightning main clone with passive was replaced by the second lightning main clone (made by Yagura), then the first lightning main's passive ceases to exist.


    ~Jib

Jiburiru I had used Yagura to copy a Lightning Main which summoned a Clone, after the copy of the Lightning Main stayed the Clone it created remained, Then I copied the LM again which summoned a 2nd clone is this a bug or? O_o

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On 2017-08-28 19:00:35Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2017-08-28 14:07:44
  • Jiburiru I had used Yagura to copy a Lightning Main which summoned a Clone, after the copy of the Lightning Main stayed the Clone it created remained, Then I copied the LM again which summoned a 2nd clone is this a bug or? O_o

This happens to all ninja with cloning technique. Use the technique on Fire/Water/Wind mains will give the same result. It probably because the game doesnt consider the Yagura clone as 'killed' when it was replaced, thus doesnt dispel its clone when a new Yagura's clone is summon?

Until announced otherwise, I think we should treat it as a game mechanic for Wagura. ^^





This post was last edited by Slowpoke on 2017-08-28 19:02:04.
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  • Slowpoke On 2017-08-28 19:00:35
  • This happens to all ninja with cloning technique. Use the technique on Fire/Water/Wind mains will give the same result. It probably because the game doesnt consider the Yagura clone as 'killed' when it was replaced, thus doesnt dispel its clone when a new Yagura's clone is summon?

    Until announced otherwise, I think we should treat it as a game mechanic for Wagura. ^^


I just tested it again and when the "copy of the LM" died, the LM's Clone stayed up. Then I would copy the LM and have a LM clone that spawned from the original. So I had 2 Lightning Clones (From the LM's talent)

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