its aprox 50-60 ss to get a rare but you can go over from what some say and you can't draw s itachi directly you have to piece him with frags...its like 1-2 frags every 100 draws(not sure)

Itachi fragments drops every 30-60 pulls.

its not aprox anything there is no garuntee at any pull rate you will get a rare is what they say now they say that it has anthershold where your odds increase i think having it at a set amount that is forsure and should be a bar displayed that says how many we have done and how many we need till the for sure one

One of you tell approx 50, second 30-60. If you say 30-60 does it mean I will never get pieces in my first roll ever? Is it so that I will never get pain/hashirama in tendo on my first ever free pull with some incredible luck?

Or is it like in heartstone you can get a legendary in ur first pack, but once per 40 packs you have guaranteed legendary?

When they say so is because they know they are close to reach the counter. In seal, tendo, sage and kage treasures this counter is set to be somewhere between 60 and 70, so if you just used 50 seal scrolls and you did some free draws too then you are sure that at your next draw by ten you'll hit the counter. In edo tensei the counter is somewhere between 30 and 40 and in jinchuriki 1/2 is somewhere between 70 and 80 with the exception of yugito nii.

I see - so there is some exact number that you are guaranteed to get Rare/Super Rare. Anyway can you hit those in like 1st free chest ever on your account? Once you unblock, get free and boom super rare - is that a possiblilty? Or is there some MINIMUM that you have to spend before getting it?

You have an minimum amount to spend , for example the most easy is tendo , you get rares between 40-80 seals for any pain/sage jiraya/beheding kakashi, the average is 60 seal for one rare , for hashirama/tendo ,which are super rare ,is at least minimum between 360-420 from what I heard and know, if you got any of them , you will have to spend again at least 360-420 to get any of them again

Also I advise you to not spend on kage treasure now because it is bugged , if you just want to understand how it works , there are videos on YouTube with pulls on every treasure and you will see what I am saying ,

example :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBUB3WElN0k

Ok I see - I dont liek how it works - I like gambling when it really comes to the luck not to the spending the cash, but it is what is it cant do much tho... So I have spent like 40 scrolls in Tendo - no rares - was thikning about keeping scrolls for Kage ( I am playing on polish server 1.0 so might not be bugged there). Should I spend scrolls to get 1 rare in tendo and then switch or just ignore Tendo at all? @FossBuchy

If you don t want to spend on money on the game , You can try your luck with 10 scrolls more, 10 scrolls you can take from free draws , that takes 20 days, start to count the free draws , after you made 10-11 , spend 10 seal scrolls so you will get the rare, the best you can get is Ningedo or Jikudo, also Shurado on 1.0 is good with fire, If you are still on 1.0 , Yea keep for kage, is the only one worth, Also Sage Naruto from Sage Treasure is worth but there is a lot of gamble , can cost 60 seal or 180 , the rare there are Ao , Sage Naruto and Konoha Traitor, for me cost me 180 seal I did not have luck

Yeah I will spend 10 more for Tendo then start collecting for Kage. Thank you a lot of explanation!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFaQGPv3SL0&t=250s watch my pulls in kage and calculate. !

I have seen ur video already mate :)