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Hi, just got roshi yesterday and first impressed is too weak, he cant even tank againt team with lower power and they only use standard attack (not lighting), i have to wait for 3.0 update or change to earth main ( currently im using light main) and i see no roshi in sage word, just cancer water team :@
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On 2017-07-02 20:03:39Show this Author Only
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just for your information 3.0 changes nothing for roshi, its just a ninjas that scales extremly well with power
So if you have low power he is pretty much useless
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On 2017-07-02 20:06:46Show this Author Only
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ppl have bad info on the 3.0 update;P in the future there will be an update that will help him but not to roshi specificaly:P
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On 2017-07-02 20:13:39Show this Author Only
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  • Syldor On 2017-07-02 20:03:39
  • just for your information 3.0 changes nothing for roshi, its just a ninjas that scales extremly well with power
    So if you have low power he is pretty much useless
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On 2017-07-02 20:21:40Show this Author Only
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  • Syldor On 2017-07-02 20:03:39
  • just for your information 3.0 changes nothing for roshi, its just a ninjas that scales extremly well with power
    So if you have low power he is pretty much useless
Im high power ppl and higher power than opponent, roshi cant even tank for 1 round without gakido or earth main mystery, i lose to cancer water team with lower 10k power than me. Kimimaro is definetely better than roshi, he can tank light main blitz team with higher power and barrier while roshi back to mama with opponent lower power using no barrier. You guys can see no one use roshi in sage world.

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On 2017-07-02 20:29:29Show this Author Only
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Give him shield n Roshi can get more buff def when attacked :victory:
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On 2017-07-02 20:36:39Show this Author Only
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Earth main + Kurenai = unkillable Roshi? :-)
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On 2017-07-02 20:42:12Show this Author Only
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Try tweaking your lineup a bit to fit him.
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On 2017-07-02 22:07:33Show this Author Only
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No tank is too strong or too weak, just depends on how you use him, that applies to every ninja on your roster.

Roshi is a scale up tank, no way Kimimaro is better than him or vice versa, maybe you're using him with wrong lineup, some ninjas shine with the right lineup.

Let me give you a perfect example, since people are making lightning + tendo, you know why they use gakido and not asuma wb? 1st tendo mystery is not prompt, 2nd gakido is a defense ninja that would avoid either someone killing your tendo or main, and 3rd it's just an easy way out for people who dont wanna bother making original teams, that's why it's called meta for a reason, doesnt have skill involved.
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On 2017-07-02 22:30:21Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-07-02 20:21:40
  • Im high power ppl and higher power than opponent, roshi cant even tank for 1 round without gakido or earth main mystery, i lose to cancer water team with lower 10k power than me. Kimimaro is definetely better than roshi, he can tank light main blitz team with higher power and barrier while roshi back to mama with opponent lower power using no barrier. You guys can see no one use roshi in sage world.

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You do understand that roshi is not by any means considered a tank right? And compering him to a kimimaro is insane? If you ever stoped and looked at growth of Roshi you would see his insane nin growth and that is it, so to all the players that are to lazy or * to check something, first check it then starting talking since Roshi IS NOT CONSIDERED A TANK(in a traditional way that is)! This post was last edited by Dimster at 2017-7-5 20:41
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On 2017-07-03 08:38:29Show this Author Only
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As others have stated, Roshi isn't supposed to be a god mode tank. Unfortunately for low-moderate power players, you cant get much use out of him unless you run a team that supports him. i.e. earth main, gaikido, etc. Han, in the next treasure, is geared more towards lower powered players. He provides a lot more utility to the power difference. and somewhat evens the playing field. The best advice I could give to anyone wanting to use Roshi at a lower power...use Earth or Water main. Something that will sustain his squishiness before the 4th or 5th round.

P.S- 3.0 will have no impact on Roshi. A few ninjas will recieve some quality of life buffs but nothing to drastically change the issues you are facing now with him

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On 2017-07-04 00:28:13Show this Author Only
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Earth Main + Gakido + Bee or han + Roshi. there you go.
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On 2017-07-04 17:25:47Show this Author Only
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Currently roshi works well only with crimson fist and azure fang because are the only two mains that let him survive long enough to make him useful on par power.
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On 2017-07-04 21:12:23Show this Author Only
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Power alone won't help him much. What you actually need to do other th*ing the right lineup is to build him into a tank. Stuff all the highest magatamas (life,defense,resistance), chakra runes (water,earth,wind and maybe sand), mood (life), ghost tactics (life), charm (life,defense,resistance) and rainbow magatamas.
He should be doing fine against close power.
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On 2017-07-04 22:09:33Show this Author Only
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I use roshi in my team, and am 100% F2P. I make sure he has a clone in front of him, bee shield, and fire main shield. I have been having good luck with him. My buddy uses earth main to shield him which helped him win some 10k power difference fights.

To me it sounds like you want a ninja that is indestructible. Roshi is probably one of the most balance ultra ninjas in the game. He has many strengths, but a low defense and resistance to make up for it. He has almost full team ignite chase, a mystery that hits everyone and destroys barriers, heals every turn, immune to debuffs, and scaling nin and defense. He isn't game breaking, but he is perfectly balanced
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On 2017-07-04 22:14:21Show this Author Only
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  • Dragonfire14 On 2017-07-04 22:09:33
  • I use roshi in my team, and am 100% F2P. I make sure he has a clone in front of him, bee shield, and fire main shield. I have been having good luck with him. My buddy uses earth main to shield him which helped him win some 10k power difference fights.

    To me it sounds like you want a ninja that is indestructible. Roshi is probably one of the most balance ultra ninjas in the game. He has many strengths, but a low defense and resistance to make up for it. He has almost full team ignite chase, a mystery that hits everyone and destroys barriers, heals every turn, immune to debuffs, and scaling nin and defense. He isn't game breaking, but he is perfectly balanced
As long as a single ninja can change meta i wouldn't go as far as saying he is perfectly balanced.He is a ninja who has his goods and bads, but overall he is above average ninja. Ofc we are talking if you are building the team right.
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On 2017-07-05 05:15:56Show this Author Only
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  • Blackami974 On 2017-07-02 22:30:21
  • You do understand that roshi is not by any means considered a tank right? And compering him to a kimimaro is insane? If you ever stoped and looked at growth of Roshi you would see his insane nin growth and that is it, so to all the players that are to lazy or * to check something, first check it then starting talking since Roshi IS NOT CONSIDERED A TANK(in a traditional way that is)! This post was last edited by Dimster at 2017-7-5 20:41
roshi is not considered a tank.

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

http://imgur.com/a/NUWmC

see you in a few months when everyone will play him like that :)
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On 2017-07-05 14:50:46Show this Author Only
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  • ⛲Suikai⛲ On 2017-07-05 05:15:56
  • roshi is not considered a tank.

    :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

    http://imgur.com/a/NUWmC

    see you in a few months when everyone will play him like that :)
Next time atleast look something up before comenting on it so you don't look *.If you ever actually saw Roshis stat you would have a clue what i am talking about.
The picture below is Roshi's stat and the picture after is kimimarus stats(kimimaru since he is considered to be a tank)


As you can see roshi has almost to non def and res growth meaning he is not inteded to be a tank in that general meaning of the word. The fact that he has defense growth on hit implies that with the right team that allows him to survive through round 1-3 he will become a tank.












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On 2017-07-05 19:32:59Show this Author Only
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  • Blackami974 On 2017-07-05 14:50:46
  • Next time atleast look something up before comenting on it so you don't look *.If you ever actually saw Roshis stat you would have a clue what i am talking about.
    The picture below is Roshi's stat and the picture after is kimimarus stats(kimimaru since he is considered to be a tank)


    As you can see roshi has almost to non def and res growth meaning he is not inteded to be a tank in that general meaning of the word. The fact that he has defense growth on hit implies that with the right team that allows him to survive through round 1-3 he will become a tank.












    This post was last edited by Dimster at 2017-7-5 14:56
Actually, Roshi is considered a ramp-up tank. As you said, he needs a few rounds to become tanky so technically his role is still to tank. He has a lower def growth because his kit ramps up his def and nin on every tai hit. You can't just say he's not a tank because his stat growth doesnt look like a tank's stat growth. You have to consider his skillset as well, but yeah I agree that he's not a traditional tank.
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On 2017-07-05 20:40:56Show this Author Only
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  • Kagat On 2017-07-05 19:32:59
  • Actually, Roshi is considered a ramp-up tank. As you said, he needs a few rounds to become tanky so technically his role is still to tank. He has a lower def growth because his kit ramps up his def and nin on every tai hit. You can't just say he's not a tank because his stat growth doesnt look like a tank's stat growth. You have to consider his skillset as well, but yeah I agree that he's not a traditional tank.
Precisely i didn't say he wasn't a tank i just implied he wasn't considered a tank in the traditional way.
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