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[ Azure Fang ] Immortal teams and you, what's the issue, and how should it be fixed.

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On 2017-06-05 02:57:24Show All Posts
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Immortal Teams are easily countered as soon as you get roshi
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On 2017-06-05 03:54:47Show All Posts
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  • IamAscrub On 2017-06-05 03:28:40
  • Roshi is indeed grossly overestimated. He is not that great until 3.0 version is reached, where he'll actually live long enough to break meta teams.

    6 tail naruto actually do break healspam like nothing if at equal power; by flat out one shotting tsunade and s sakura with his mystery, without leaving any chance to heal. Roshi unfortunately do not have anywhere near this oomph from the get go. Roshi will break immortal teams by slowly stacking up his nin over a long time, eventually having the muscles to brute force past healspam. 2.0 roshi is squishy enough to actually die to tsunade mystery + sailor sakura splash...

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    Healspam is a serious problem at low levels/power, where people have limited access to good/synergized teams. It is an easy to construct team, while counters are no available to most players.

    Heal spam is not a problem at the f2p plateau (50 - 60k zone), where a lot of players run meta blitz teams. Healspam plainly die to lightning blitz and sn kk wind, and will not beat mabui 1010 unless your opponent misplay or rng rolls heavily in your favor.

    Heal spam once again become viable at the heavy spender end, for it's ability to counter black hidan teams and ssn teams. Healspam is not as big a problem as people make out to be. Healspam > whale teams > f2p meta teams > healspam. It has a counter, that all the whales have access to. Just because most of the whales insist on staying with their expensive ninjas and die for it, or resort to a 10 round stall out mirror, doesn't mean the team is actually broken.

    (Then ofc.. there's the extremely inaccssible 6tails team that beat everything.)
roshi doesnt change a bit with 3.0 but roshi has 1 thing that makes him better to counter heal spam which is his chase
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On 2017-06-05 03:56:12Show All Posts
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btw with my anti immortal team i beat the immortal team from a friend of mine who has 25-30k more bp than me in the 4th/5th round
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On 2017-06-05 04:05:15Show All Posts
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his immortal team is
sailor sakura - -
hokage tsunde earth main roshi
- - -
talents are eathe enhancement(since 3.0 this asuma passive) and this defense buff standard and mystery shields chase is knockdown to low float and summon is lightning tiger


my team is

rasa - susa itachi
- earth main roshi
- - -
talents are all the same except for king of hell instead of lightning tiger
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On 2017-06-05 04:07:17Show All Posts
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  • MuroiMaNin On 2017-06-05 04:05:15
  • his immortal team is
    sailor sakura - -
    hokage tsunde earth main roshi
    - - -
    talents are eathe enhancement(since 3.0 this asuma passive) and this defense buff standard and mystery shields chase is knockdown to low float and summon is lightning tiger


    my team is

    rasa - susa itachi
    - earth main roshi
    - - -
    talents are all the same except for king of hell instead of lightning tiger
i know not a lot of peope have itachi but at least space time will be more enjoyable if they stop using immortal teams
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On 2017-06-05 04:18:05Show All Posts
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  • WaifuBeater On 2017-06-05 04:09:56
  • Yeah that's a nice counter that less than 1% of the playerbase c*e, i don't know why you are even suggesting this as no one can really use that counter.
i said it was for more entertaining time space battles
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On 2017-06-05 04:27:37Show All Posts
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  • Belerephon On 2017-06-05 04:21:13
  • Ye beat one whale team with another whale team not really a solution there.
what i also saw that seemed to work reasonably well there combinations of kurotsuschi roshi wind main and asuma wb
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On 2017-06-05 04:32:08Show All Posts
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  • Juuno On 2017-06-05 04:29:03
  • Mmm this seems like an interesting line-up. *^*
    *awkward cough* On a side note uhh, where do you get Roshi though? ^^;
from jinchuriki treasure 1 i thought it was at this point obvious that i am a german who plays the german version
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On 2017-06-05 04:50:16Show All Posts
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  • WaifuBeater On 2017-06-05 04:47:19
  • This, i do not understand why people think skill matters in this game. To a degree it does, but that only applies when the power difference is very miniscule. If your opponent has the initiative position 1 advantage and the field even at the same power they are not at the same power anymore as all their ninjas just got buffed by 30% and they still can move first while immobilising your targets easily.

    Now if the opponent has all of that and they are 10k ahead no matter what you do, you can have the most broken tankiness, i'm looking at you root passive, and insane damage/sustain at the same time it does not matter as they will just roll over you unless they are using some joke team.
i have to disagree i beat the second highest ranked player on my server who has 35k more bp than me This post was last edited by MuroiMaNin at 2017-6-5 04:54
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On 2017-06-05 05:07:17Show All Posts
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  • WaifuBeater On 2017-06-05 04:57:00
  • I have to disagree with your disagreement, since you have clearly displayed the ninjas available to you are not something a normal player or even moderate p2w can achieve.
even with strong ninjas you still need skill to beat someone who is faster than you on every postion and has 50% more bp than you
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On 2017-06-05 05:11:02Show All Posts
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  • WaifuBeater On 2017-06-05 05:01:17
  • Alright i will give you that some of the p2w players are not very smart, i am nr 4 in my space time and i went up against a heavy whale 25k power above me, he used a hashirama manual barrier team with hanzo/earth main,sage naruto and i just used some meta poison tai chojuro/mei team and did end up winning, because he was so *y that he was on auto, then all he had to do is switch to an auto barrier and bust out his 6tails +minato and all i could do was facepalm.

    This however is not the case most of the time, if both players are equally skilled the one with the heavy power advantage will win almost certainly.
your opponent can be the lebron james of naruto online if he cant use any mystery or even attack you because you totally outplayed him than i would consider that a victory by skill
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On 2017-06-05 05:41:00Show All Posts
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  • WaifuBeater On 2017-06-05 05:33:53
  • It was not a victory by skill because winning against auto/survival trial is easy with even a heavy power disadvantage.

    You still fail to see the point, all he had to do is win over my auto barrier by using an auto barrier ninja and just overpower me with his power there was no skill involved to win the first one and no amount of strategy would win me the second game unless i suddenly got the urge to drop 1k£ on the game to get some amazingly balanced ninjas like sailor sakura/tsunade hokage and just win by outhealing.
just because your opponent was on auto doesnt mean that mine was too
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