I cant be leave that People are fighting in favor of the negative point system. it is the most imbalanced form of keeping people down. It defiantly needs to be changed. there is no reason to have it this hard to make it to Six Path's it just kills the game atmosphere.

Thank you for your participation if you could kindly have your server&friends join it'd help :P

And also write a post in the customer service section of the forum if you can ^^.

I started a new thread with the suggestions from this discussion.

dude next time say it to my face, rather than throwing out in the air, i know that was directed to me, but did i ever said i was in favor of this system? dont put words in my mouth please thank you.

What i think in general about this matter is that if you never reached sage of six paths once at the end of every season you rank should be kept and your negative points should be resetted, moreover i think the negative points you can get in every season should be capped to the points needed for the previous rank +1 (you are kage? You cannot go under -6, because jonin is 26) because otherwise you aren't keeping at all your rank.
Or you do so or you remove people that reached once SoSP from the bracket or you make that if you are matched with one of them if you lose you get +0 points, not -1. That way you can lower your points only if you faced somebody like you.
One of these ways would make arena fair for people that are trying to reach sage of six paths. Right now is unplayable.

we need more of the community involved

Just to play devil's advocate here, if negative points get reset at the end of a season or are capped AND they keep the current system of not being able to de-rank, what's to stop someone from just constantly giving away free wins? They won't rank up that season, but everyone who gets to fight them will get a boost up though the rankings. If people are already using alts to get sage of six paths before cross server arena is activated, I'm sure they'll also just park alts at the Jonin-Super Kage tiers to just boost themseleves through every season.

The fun fact is that what you are saying can actually happen now while it would happen a lot less if they introduce the system i say because their alts would be very likely matched with people from others servers that are joining (consider also that if you own 26 points in the cross server circuit you can be matched at most with people with 24-28 points so the alt parked there just help you for two points if you are so lucky to get matched with it). The truth is that is now that this can happen, maybe, because none or almost none joins ranked arena. But this doesn't happen because to 'park' *t right now in kage or superkage you actually need to play it very intensively since with less than 10k initiative you don't even hope to see the word superkage so, imho, is even fair that that alt is there because was actually played a lot like a main account. Anyways mine was just a suggestion and to be honest what i think is the best option is to actually give +0 instead of -1 if a person that never reached sage of six paths meets a person that reached it once and lose. The suggestion about resetting points every months was just a secondary option.

This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-5-25 16:53

Well currently, if you give away 2 wins you put yourself 2 points deeper into the hole next season. A reset or 0 point loss would let you continue to do this EVERY season.

Honestly I think they should just remove the requirement of having to reach 6 paths at least once before getting normal rewards. I don't think they can/will, but that's the main source of the problem. I think most people would be happy getting to a rank they can achieve and getting the corresponding rewards each season, it's the REQUIREMENT to hit the HIGHEST rank before getting decent rewards that has so many people giving up.

The Arena as it is now is useless... Ill que ranked arena for 3 hours at a time through the day and nothing. I que it when i go to sleep, when i leave the house... everything... all the time! - Nothing, ever!!!! Everyone is too afraid of the losses to fool with it.

Lets say this is true in for the specific two fights, but at that point you just play with your alt and you get the points back. If you were able to park it there means you are able to be there ^_*

Up, i think this thread needs to stay in top positions

Is there a minimum point threshold for matching people in arena? When chain queuing I seem to keep running into the same people even if I keep losing/winning to them. Does this mean that they're also winning/losing to someone else to stay close to me in points or can you get matched up with anyone in ranked if the timer goes for too long?


EDIT:
For context, lost to the same person 4 or 5 times in a row. So our point difference went on a 8-10 point swing from the first match to the last, probably more since they would have started getting +2 from a streak. A few days ago, I ran into someone else 4 times in 6 fights and won all of them and they said they kept running into me in a row (but I have no way to confirm this is true or just an exageration, unlike my last example).

This post was last edited by cra***@gmail.com at 2017-5-29 13:20

Matching on arena is based on rank not points- if you are ANBU rank for example- then you get matched with people on same rank- and if by chance you two are only ones searching for a fight in certain time- you might get yourself few times in a row.

As far as i know, you get matched in cross server arena only with people that have your points +/-2. So if you are jonin at 28 you can meet people in the range of 26-30, doesn't matter their rank (yes, you can meet a superkage at -20 lol)

Poll has been created. This thread will be for all discussions in general&poll related

The main problem, anyways, is that to get rewards according to our rank being once sage of six paths is a prerequisite.
Or they remove this conition or they give somehow an advantage to people that never reached it against people that reached it once.
The latter could be basically done in two ways:

1st way: a loss against somebody at your rank that reached sage of six paths once grants +0 instead of -1.

2nd way: if you meet somebody that reached sage of six paths you have the initiative advantage regardless your total initiative.

There are no other ways to make a patch about this without separating the two roasters and without removing or changing the requirement of being sage of six paths once (imho the best and easiest solution would be to require you to meet kage rank once to get rewards accordingly to your rank instead of sage of six paths. Also kage rank is pretty hard to reach, but you should be able to do it in 4 months of right playing).

seems they deleted my poll I'll see why, then prob have to end up remaking a poll


Likewise in a off note my guide thread got deleted that was showing every possible ninja to obtain via survival&breakthrough o.o. Now gotta remake all that sigh...
This post was last edited by mar***@gmail.com at 2017-6-4 12:07